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Subj: I0OJJ > Re: about the Authors
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I0OJJ wrote:
> This is a generalized problem existing since the packet advent.
Yes because standards were never kept up to date nor followed when
existed.
> Maiko is one exception since he accepts to ear the instances of
> of hamradio people.
I'm sure if he's pushed into trying to please all hams who have their
own set of rules they wish to follow it will push him right out of packet
completely. Ham radio people also are proponants of using RF over
internet :)
> But the above difficulties existed and exists today also among
> all of us :(
That's because everyone has their own ideas as to how things must work and
some of the more vocal ones have not been running systems for as long as
us seniors.
> Given that W0RLI was a great scientist on the matter he had his
> maniacal ideas about the use of radio waves to transit packet.
> Then, he was one that doesn't accept any message conversation
> with no one; I and others experienced this fact.
If you ever spoke with Hank, you'd understand him a lot better. Much gets lost
in ascii text, especially dialect and emotions. Hank was an RF purist. He
faulted any wired protocol for the demise and destruction of how packet mail
flows. In reality as much as we wish not to believe this, he was and is still
correct. This was what he was trying to protect - the integrity of mail
routes via RF.
> As per my experience the budlisting existed a lot also when we
> connected at 1k2 bds, and specially for me, the internet means
> was a very big liberation.
In reality, budlisting should be even moreso used since internet activities
are not (in _most_ countries) governed by the same set of regulations as
RF is. This is why a system such as "automap" on the internet is such a
security risk because any unlicensed person can infest our RF feeds. On
LinFBB this is where my rewrite of Protus comes in very handy. Hank didn't
budlist many. He often threatened to as a scare tactic to get the Haddress
routing back to where it should be but he would moreso just rewrite any
public mails one would send to LLL :) When you consider RLIBBS is one of
the first if not the first packet BBS developed, Hank was surely one to
learn from and one to soak up his wisdom from.
> For our Country regulation (dated 2003) the radio amateurs can
> connect the *public networks* on emergencies or in the normal
> completion of amateur radio activities, so no problems at all,
> here :)
That's all well and good but the regulations in Italy most likely do not
parallel regulations in most other countries and if we don't respect the
regulations of our neighboring hams, we're the ones to blame for not being
courteous. This is why a call for standards is so important... to which
more recently Maiko is in agreement with me on. Having set standards also
makes it a lot easier for folks like you and I to elmer others. It's difficult
to teach someone new that they can do "whatever" :)
73
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