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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IC-9100 and SatPC32ISS (Adrian Engele)
2. AO-85 (R. S.)
3. Circular Antennas (Gerald Payton)
4. AO-73/FUNcube (Jim Heck G3WGM)
5. Re: Circular Antennas (Dave Mann)
6. Re: Circular Antennas (Jim Jerzycke)
7. Re: AO-85 (R. S.)
8. Re: AO-85 (John Brier)
9. Re: AO-85 (Jerry Buxton)
10. Re: AO-85 (R. S.)
11. Re: AO-85 (John Brier)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Mark Johns <mjohns@xxxxxx.xxx>, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SatPC32ISS
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I found I have to manually put it in D mode when using SatPC32ISS and the
IC-9100.
Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
73, Adrian AA5UK
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mark Johns via
AMSAT-BB<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: I bought a new PC, now running Windows
10, and trying to get everything set up once again. It's always the little
things that take so much time to figure out. Perhaps someone can help with
this one:
I have the entry for ISS packet repeater set up in Doppler.SQF as:
ISS,145825,145825,FMD,FMD,NOR,0,0,Packet
When I select ISS in SatPC32, it immediately changes the frequencies of both
VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM with the Digital mode indicated.
When I start SatPC32ISS (which uses the same Doppler.SQF file as SatPC32),
it changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM
but NOT into the Digital mode. I? have to do that manually on the rig.
Any thoughts?
-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
Decorah, Iowa USA? EN43
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:36:13 -0700
From: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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Hello all,
I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using
is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am
adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have tried
have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still
can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is there
anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but
AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to
satellites. Thanks for you help.
73,
Ryan
KM6DNG
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:40:56 +0000
From: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas
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Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder what
happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now?
73,
Jerry AB5R
EM12kh
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:36:15 +0100
From: "Jim Heck G3WGM" <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube
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Hi Folks
I have just switched AO-73/FUNcube into full time transponder mode (Amateur
Mode).
As normal, plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC
Have FUN!
73s Jim G3WGM
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:14:48 -0500
From: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas
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My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The 70cm
antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my local
repeater and simplex antenna now.
I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not convinced
circulars are a bad thing.
That's about all the advice I can render.
73
Dave
N4CVX
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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder
what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jerry AB5R
>
> EM12kh
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:43:41 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas
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Hi, Jerry
I'm guessing here that you mean the "bed spring on a stick" kind of
normal-mode helix antenna that you point at the bird, rather than some
other *omnidirectional* helical antenna like a Quadrifilar Helix
Antenna, aka "QHA"
Well, I'm not really sure if they were ever "in fashion". They're pretty
easy to build, pretty broadbanded, and are quite forgiving of minor
errors in construction, but seeing as they have no way to switch
polarization, which can be pretty handy at times, they're pretty limited.
I've built a couple, one for 1.2GHz, and another for 70cm, and they work
quite well for being so simple.
One for 2 Meters is quite a bit bigger, and they start to get cumbersome
to rotate.
Other than the two I built, I've never seen an Amateur Radio version "in
the wild", although I have seen numerous ones for commercial and
military use.
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 08/12/2016 06:40 PM, Gerald Payton wrote:
> Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder
what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jerry AB5R
>
> EM12kh
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:01:44 -0700
From: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
To: jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xxx roccaf@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full
duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for
transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17
degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my
vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR.
Ryan
W6ZAR
On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, <jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> Hello Ryan
>
> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct
the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me).
>
> Best 73's
>
> Jerry,ON4CJQ
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
> Aan: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13
> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using
> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am
> 's
>
> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have
tried
> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still
> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is
there
> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but
> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to
> satellites. Thanks for you help.
>
> 73,
> Ryan
> KM6DNG
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:33:43 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat.
Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify
this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being explained:
Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC).
The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and with
the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically conductive
epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the
antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To overcome
this you have to use more power.
With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I haven't
been able to on the few tries I gave it.
One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the
Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the bird's
antennas are linear.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full
> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for
> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17
> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my
> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR.
>
> Ryan
> W6ZAR
>
> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, <jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hello Ryan
> >
> > That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct
> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me).
> >
> > Best 73's
> >
> > Jerry,ON4CJQ
> >
> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > Van: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Aan: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> > Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13
> > Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using
> > is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am
> > 's
> >
> > adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have
> tried
> > have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still
> > can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is
> there
> > anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but
> > AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to
> > satellites. Thanks for you help.
> >
> > 73,
> > Ryan
> > KM6DNG
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:06:38 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the
Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my
recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that
was stated as "for full quieting".
As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna
myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as
well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it.
I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let
others who have that experience speak to that.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote:
> It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat.
>
> Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify
> this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being explained:
>
> Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC).
> The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and with
> the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically conductive
> epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the
> antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To overcome
> this you have to use more power.
>
> With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I haven't
> been able to on the few tries I gave it.
>
> One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the
> Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the bird's
> antennas are linear.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full
>> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for
>> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17
>> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my
>> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR.
>>
>> Ryan
>> W6ZAR
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, <jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ryan
>>>
>>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct
>> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me).
>>> Best 73's
>>>
>>> Jerry,ON4CJQ
>>>
>>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>>> Van: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Aan: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13
>>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using
>>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am
>>> 's
>>>
>>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have
>> tried
>>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still
>>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is
>> there
>>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but
>>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to
>>> satellites. Thanks for you help.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Ryan
>>> KM6DNG
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:35:56 -0700
From: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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OK, that explains probably why AO-85 is so much more quieter than SO-50. On
one pass I only heard one other person calling out and on another pass two
people having a casual rag chew. On the other hand, trying to work SO-50, I
can barely get my call-sign in.
John KG4AKV. I stumbled upon your great Youtube videos last week. I
subscribed.
73,
Ryan
W6ZAR
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the
> Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my
> recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that
> was stated as "for full quieting".
>
> As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna
> myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as
> well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it.
>
> I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let
> others who have that experience speak to that.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote:
> > It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat.
> >
> > Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify
> > this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being
> explained:
> >
> > Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC).
> > The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and
> with
> > the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically
> conductive
> > epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the
> > antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To
> overcome
> > this you have to use more power.
> >
> > With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I
> haven't
> > been able to on the few tries I gave it.
> >
> > One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the
> > Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the
> bird's
> > antennas are linear.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full
> >> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for
> >> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17
> >> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just
> got my
> >> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR.
> >>
> >> Ryan
> >> W6ZAR
> >>
> >> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, <jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Ryan
> >>>
> >>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also
> correct
> >> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me).
> >>> Best 73's
> >>>
> >>> Jerry,ON4CJQ
> >>>
> >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> >>> Van: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
> >>> Aan: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> >>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13
> >>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am
> using
> >>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am
> >>> 's
> >>>
> >>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have
> >> tried
> >>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still
> >>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is
> >> there
> >>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but
> >>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new
> to
> >>> satellites. Thanks for you help.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Ryan
> >>> KM6DNG
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> _______________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:49:52 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
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Glad it helped! Thanks very much for subscribing!
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Aug 12, 2016 7:44 PM, "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> OK, that explains probably why AO-85 is so much more quieter than SO-50. On
> one pass I only heard one other person calling out and on another pass two
> people having a casual rag chew. On the other hand, trying to work SO-50, I
> can barely get my call-sign in.
>
> John KG4AKV. I stumbled upon your great Youtube videos last week. I
> subscribed.
>
> 73,
> Ryan
> W6ZAR
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the
> > Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my
> > recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that
> > was stated as "for full quieting".
> >
> > As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna
> > myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as
> > well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it.
> >
> > I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let
> > others who have that experience speak to that.
> >
> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> >
> > On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote:
> > > It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat.
> > >
> > > Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify
> > > this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being
> > explained:
> > >
> > > Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke
> (IIRC).
> > > The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and
> > with
> > > the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically
> > conductive
> > > epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now
> the
> > > antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To
> > overcome
> > > this you have to use more power.
> > >
> > > With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I
> > haven't
> > > been able to on the few tries I gave it.
> > >
> > > One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the
> > > Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the
> > bird's
> > > antennas are linear.
> > >
> > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > >
> > > On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full
> > >> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for
> > >> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17
> > >> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just
> > got my
> > >> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR.
> > >>
> > >> Ryan
> > >> W6ZAR
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, <jerry.tuyls@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello Ryan
> > >>>
> > >>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also
> > correct
> > >> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me).
> > >>> Best 73's
> > >>>
> > >>> Jerry,ON4CJQ
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > >>> Van: "R. S." <rzar66@xxxxx.xxx>
> > >>> Aan: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> > >>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13
> > >>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello all,
> > >>>
> > >>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am
> > using
> > >>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and
> am
> > >>> 's
> > >>>
> > >>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have
> > >> tried
> > >>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and
> still
> > >>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is
> > >> there
> > >>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50
> but
> > >>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very
> new
> > to
> > >>> satellites. Thanks for you help.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>> Ryan
> > >>> KM6DNG
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