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Today's Topics:
1. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC
(AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
2. Re: Upcoming ARISS contact with Daisen Elementary School,
Saihaku-gun, Japan (Daniel Cussen)
3. Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (JoAnne Maenpaa)
5. Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (David G0MRF)
6. Re: Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (M5AKA)
8. Re: Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation (Peter Laws)
9. FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music (Tony Stone)
10. Re: FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music (Bruce)
11. Re: FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music (Peter Laws)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 02:29:05 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-21
06:00 UTC
Message-ID: <412ec.43f00845.44eaa431@xxx.xxx>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact was successful: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg (***)
Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
Contact was successful: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg (***)
The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted.
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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121 (***)
Francesco IK?WGF with 117
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1080. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1045. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
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QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC.
(***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 47 on orbit
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Aleksey Ovchinin
Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin
Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
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73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 12:33:02 +0100
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Daisen Elementary
School, Saihaku-gun, Japan
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Here is the video from this ARISS contact:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcoPW5Ex-I
On 19/08/2016, n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
> participants at Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan on 20 Aug. The
> event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:50 UTC. The duration of the
> contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be
> direct between NA1SS and 8J4DISS. The contact should be audible over Japan
> and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the
> 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Japanese.
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> learning under the abundant environment naturally. All contact members are 6
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> 6. What are the inconveniences being in the ISS?
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> 12. What kind of exercise do you do at the ISS?
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> 14. Please tell us the most difficult thing in zero gravity?
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> 15. What surprised you most in space?
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> 16. What is the most popular food at the ISS?
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> 18. What do you want to eat first when you?ll come back to the earth?
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> PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
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> Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
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> International Space Station (ARISS).
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> To receive our Twitter updates, follow @xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> N9DR. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
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> The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
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> Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC
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> About ARISS:
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> Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
> venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
> support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
> sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
> Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in
> Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).
> The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,
> engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts
> via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in
> classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced
> amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a
> variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students,
> teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies,
> and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org,
> and www.arrl.org.
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> Thank you & 73,
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> David ? AA4KN
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID: <a1b818754bd88e2286d7d2e5244e5687@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
" A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission
that
exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission.
First,
music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is
processed
on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent
back
to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio
service?
Steve AI9IN
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 08:29:09 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID: <002a01d1fbaf$ffe26250$ffa726f0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States
> amateur radio service?
This isn't a United States satellite.
The article also mentions:
> ... countries participating in the BIRDS project, Japan, Ghana,
> Mongolia, Nigeria and Bangladesh ... Planning a JAXA sponsored
> deployment
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:33:34 -0400
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Steve.
It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the
UK.
I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio
spectrum.
Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the
frequency coordination request
the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put on
hold.
On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the music
if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast area' !!
Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
Regards
David G0MRF
Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
" A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission
that
exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission.
First,
music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is
processed
on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent
back
to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio
service?
Steve AI9IN
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:38:06 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID:
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David,
Horyu-4 received IARU coordination (
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and
includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem.
Here's a clip of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A
As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload
would be public domain!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve.
>
> It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in
> the UK.
> I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
>
> Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio
> spectrum.
>
> Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the
> frequency coordination request
> the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put
> on hold.
>
> On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the
> music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast
> area' !!
> Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
>
> Regards
>
> David G0MRF
>
>
>
> Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
>
> " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission
> that
> exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission.
> First,
> music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is
> processed
> on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent
> back
> to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
>
> Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio
> service?
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID:
<285088790.29235889.1471803794672.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of
content that is prohibited in the UK."
The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006.
There is very little in terms of Content that is prohibited by the UK
license. The only specific Content prohibition that I recall is:
- a message, communication or other matter in whatever form that is grossly
offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character. [Notes (h)]
A copy of the current UK license terms and conditions can be seen at
https://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-li
censees/amateur-terms.pdf
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Sunday, 21 August 2016, 16:38, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
David,
Horyu-4 received IARU coordination (
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and
includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem.
Here's a clip of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A
As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload
would be public domain!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve.
>
> It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in
> the UK.
> I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
>
> Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio
> spectrum.
>
> Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the
> frequency coordination request
> the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put
> on hold.
>
> On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the
> music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast
> area' !!
> Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
>
> Regards
>
> David? G0MRF
>
>
>
> Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
>
> " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission
> that
> exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission.
> First,
> music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is
> processed
> on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent
> back
> to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
>
> Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio
> service?
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 13:39:34 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Message-ID:
<CANVAiQ99-xvJnA312yTr2vZ-Ysp2DmRb0tM_oy9TU=2gRvOGXQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:23 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of
content that is prohibited in the UK."
> The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006.
The US regs at 47CFR97.113, especially the prohibitions on music,
broadcasting, and passing messages for hire date back to the earliest
regs when the commercial radio co's didn't want the competition. I
don't know when those were added but it was not at the very beginning,
since many stations with amateur license were known to broadcast music
and other programming once radiotelephone became practical. Plenty of
US "radio station lists" from pre-1925 are online now, but I've not
seen copies of the contemporary amateur radio rules. Would be
interesting to see when that stuff started.
I'm really not interested in hearing music on amateur radio, nor
broadcasting, beyond the exceptions the FCC has had to make in the US
rules. I can ignore music on the broadcast bands and satellite radio
and don't want to have to ignore it on the amateur bands, too!
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:17:54 -0400
From: Tony Stone <w4tas@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music
Message-ID: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I have edited out all non music related parts.
Part 97 : Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions
(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
(4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided
elsewhere in this section; communications intended to facilitate
a criminal act; messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their
meaning, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent
words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or
identification.
(c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from
any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except
propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by
the general public and originated from United States Government
stations, and communications, including incidental music,
originating on United States Government frequencies between a
manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations. Prior approval
for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be obtained
from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such
retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio
operators. Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft
communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular
basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur
radio communications.
[58 FR 43072, Aug. 13, 1993; 58 FR 47219, Sept. 8, 1993, as amended
at 71 FR 25982, May 3, 2006; 71 FR 66462, Nov. 15, 2006; 75 FR 46857,
Aug. 4, 2010]
Tony Stone
w4tas@xxx.xxx
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:37:08 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of
music
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This is all a moot point as the BIRDS satellites are not built, owned,
or operated by United States hams. No FCC regulation can govern their
operation. Is this not similar to pirate radio stations that sit just
outside the U.S. territorial waters and transmit their radio shows that
can be heard stateside? They are only governed by ITU rules and not FCC
rules.
Rules around the world are different and what is allowed in one country
may not be allowed in another. That's just the way it is. The BIRDS can
do whatever is legal in their country and if they really wanted to make
it unavailable while over the United States to appease the FCC, they can
put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we would miss out
on the fun of receiving the satellite.
Could you just imagine if every builder of a satellite had to abide by
the rules of every country in the world that their satellite will pass
over or be in range to hear it? What a nightmare that would become.
73...bruce
On 8/21/2016 2:17 PM, Tony Stone wrote:
> I have edited out all non music related parts.
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> Part 97 : Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions
> (a) No amateur station shall transmit:
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> (4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided
> elsewhere in this section; communications intended to facilitate
> a criminal act; messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their
> meaning, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent
> words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or
> identification.
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> (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from
> any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except
> propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by
> the general public and originated from United States Government
> stations, and communications, including incidental music,
> originating on United States Government frequencies between a
> manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations. Prior approval
> for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be obtained
> from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such
> retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio
> operators. Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft
> communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular
> basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur
> radio communications.
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> [58 FR 43072, Aug. 13, 1993; 58 FR 47219, Sept. 8, 1993, as amended
> at 71 FR 25982, May 3, 2006; 71 FR 66462, Nov. 15, 2006; 75 FR 46857,
> Aug. 4, 2010]
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> Tony Stone
> w4tas@xxx.xxx
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:43:51 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The BIRDS can do whatever is legal in their country and if they really
> wanted to make it unavailable while over the United States to appease the
> FCC, they can put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we
> would miss out on the fun of receiving the satellite.
How well does GPS work with satellites in LEO? (NavStars are in
higher orbit, right?) Is it accurate? You'd have to sort of do a
reverse bank shot thing because you're not dealing with the
satellite's position, but the position of its footprint. How would
that work? I see lots of math in someone's future! :-D
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