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Today's Topics:
1. SatPC32 Vs. AMSAT Predictions (R.T.Liddy)
2. Satellite Radios (Bill Acito)
3. Re: Satellite Radios (David Pykett)
4. amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite
PSK (KO6TZ Bob)
5. (no subject) (Peter Budnik)
6. ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), St.
Petersburg, FL, 9/16-18, Banquet Speaker & Sunday Seminar
Announced and Technical Forums Finalizing (Mark Thompson)
7. FUNcube-1 (Graham Shirville)
8. Re: Satellite Radios (PA3GUO)
9. Star Trek fans- off topic- but cool (D. Craig Fox)
10. PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight? (sean fay)
11. Re: PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight? (Richard Tejera)
12. Re: PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight? (JoAnne Maenpaa)
13. Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio (B J)
14. Re: Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio (R.T.Liddy)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:12:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Vs. AMSAT Predictions
Message-ID: <379484366.117123.1472764368249@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
SatPC32 Users,
While running WinAOS printouts for my upcoming Grid Expedition,
I checked them out versus the AMSAT On-Line Predictions to see
if they jibed. Upon comparison, I noticed a variation in AOS/LOS
and Azimuths. It isn't all that much, but sometimes I can be OCD
when I'm out in the hinterlands and I'm not hearing the Birds when
I think I should. The data I give each program are exactly the same.
It's more than likely that the two Programs use slightly different formulae
to make their calculations and that would account for the differences,
but I was just wondering.
As long as I'm wondering, I have a basic question. When I update the
Keps in PC32, do I choose Satellites nasa.all and Download Keps
www.amsat.........../nasa.all? ?Or, do I choose Satellites amateur.txt
and Download Keps www.celestrak.........amateur.txt? Or, can it be
a combination of the two, or doesn't it matter? ?AND, when I run the
Program, do I choose Satellites nasa.all or amateur.txt from the Source
Files listing? I'm easily confused at my age - HIHI.
TNX/73, ? ? ?Bob ?K8BL
?
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:37:26 +0000
From: Bill Acito <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
Message-ID:
<MWHPR03MB30552563B075AE9F137EB32998E20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxx.xx
x>
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Icom 820H, 821
Bill W1PA
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:42:22 +0000
From: David Pykett <g0iiq@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
Message-ID:
<AMXPR05MB102881EE2A3C061EF435BBCFAE20@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Icom IC-9100 now but long time ago I used a Yaesu FT726 with all the modules
Dave G0IIQ
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:55:48 -0700
From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx flwss@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter
satellite PSK
Message-ID: <a67ce8db-ee91-1781-e6e6-ac0fda736553@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
From the text that you copied, I am certain what you saw was my CQ call
thru the satellite NO-84.
The macro I use is as follows;
{
"text": " cq cq satellite MYCALL MYCALL "
}
This text would be sent continuously while calling CQ. The satellite
users rely on multi decoders for the downlink PSK-31. Each side of the
contact or Keyboard QSO would be at a different frequency on the waterfall.
As Bob, WB4APR, mentioned, the PSK-31 signal is Doppler shifted by the
program I use to transmit. This signal will be skewed to the point it
will be hard copy to a terrestrial station. The opposite is also true,
I am usually unable to copy more than short segment of terrestrial station.
I hope this was helpful.
Bob
KO6TZ
DM13rw
Its more interesting that that too.
The reason the 28.118 MHz user uplink has Doppler on it, is because he is
using N0SM's pre-compensated Doppler uplink software. See
http://aprs.org/psat.html
With this software, you can run your normal PSK31 software for monitoring
the 435.350 MHz FM downlink and run full duplex with N0SM's TX software
for your 28.1xx uplink. And the uplink is pre-shifted for Doppler so that
everyone seeing the downlink will see your signal constant.
And since it is full duplex, you can be typing with comments to everyone
in the passband at the same time while watching their comments too. Bob,
WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Glasbrenner
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Florida Weak Signal Society
Cc: Bob Cutter via Amsat-Bb; Don Hawbaker
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite
PSK
NO-84 has a PSK transponder, 10m up and UHF FM down.
73, Drew KO4MA
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Don Hawbaker via FLWSS <flwss at flwss.net>
wrote:
>
> I was hearing a station on about 28118 KHz last night running PSK31
calling CQ satellite with drift, but since it says CQ satellite, I guess
it could have been Doppler shift. Anybody know how this could happen?
> _______________________________________________
> Website http://www.flwss.net
>
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> FLWSS at flwss.net
> http://flwss.net/mailman/listinfo/flwss_flwss.net
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:48:05 -0400
From: "Peter Budnik" <kb1hy2@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <7515E071BAD143529444494ACE75D69E@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 06:39:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"freetel-codec2@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
<freetel-codec2@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "seatcp@xxxxxx.xxxx
<seatcp@xxxxxx.xxx>, "hpsdr@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
<hpsdr@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "tlan@xxxxxxxx.xxxx <tlan@xxxxxxxx.xxx>,
"rtty@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <rtty@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference),
St. Petersburg, FL, 9/16-18, Banquet Speaker & Sunday Seminar
Announced and Technical Forums Finalizing
Message-ID: <839408395.225099.1472798364561@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference)?
St. Petersburg, FL?
September 16 - 18, 2016
http://www.tapr.org/dcc#banquet
Saturday Night Banquet Speaker Announced?
Speaker:?
Brennan Price, N4QX?
ARRL CTO (Chief Technology Officer)
Topic:?
"New Frontiers in Wireless: Challenges to and Opportunities for Amateur Radio"
http://www.tapr.org/dcc#seminar
Sunday Seminar Announced?
Seminar Conducted by:?
Michelle Thompson, W5NYV?
Bob McGwier, N4HY
Chief Scientist, Hume Center for National Security and Technology as a
Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering as well as Aerospace and
Ocean Engineering
Topic:?
"Spectrum (It's the frequency crunch for real)"
http://www.tapr.org/dcc
DCC Technical Presentations
The DCC Technical Forum Schedule is being finalized, however a couple times
slots may be available.?
If you would like to present a Technical Topic at the DCC, but haven't
submitted a technical papaer in advance?please email the TAPR Office at:
taproffice@xxxx.xxx with the topic of your presentation.?
The Technical Forum schedule should be published soon.?
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:34:39 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <funcube@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1
Message-ID: <0F176815975B4A73B4AB21ECC3D18889@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi All,
The transponder on AO73 is now on for the weekend!
73
Graham
G3VZV
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:47:39 +0300
From: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
Message-ID: <1472838459.404644223@xxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
https://youtu.be/xFZGlqKPPQo
Gives an impression how such a small device performs (quite well!).
Henk PA3GUO
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:55:30 -0700
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Star Trek fans- off topic- but cool
Message-ID:
<FE3B26F42CA36A4B976024BC0C5C57D6110D21518D@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Just a heads up to my sat ops friends who are also Star Trek fans. USPS has
just issued Star Trek commemorative forever stamps.
https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?categoryNav=fal
se&navAction=push&navCount=0&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=buy-stamps&p
roductId=S_474004
Thanks for indulging a Trekkie
73s
Craig
N6RSX
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:22:40 -0500
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
Message-ID:
<CAEWsTrN+Ve3PpLQ5KAWaHRRQLfgE8mR1t+0DuXMQH_tjOy1NgA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello all,
I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
hours?
Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
active , if there is regular use of it during active times?
Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if you
do see my packet being sent
Sean
AA0AN/EM29
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:50:16 -0700
From: Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>, 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
Message-ID: <06tygu53jtxobpm3dp5782rl.1472863816885@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Sean
Not sure about NO-44, but NO-84 is functional on APRS packet.
Depending on errands and honeyco's, I will try to work as many ISs & NO-44
Passes as I can.
Look for K7TEJ-7 from DM33 (Phoenix area)
73
Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
On September 2, 2016, at 17:22, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Hello all,
I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
hours?
Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
active , if there is regular use of it during active times?
Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if you
do see my packet being sent
Sean
AA0AN/EM29
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:10:04 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
Message-ID: <006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Sean,
NO-44 is active only in sunlight ... with a caveat that it needs a good
illumination angle on its solar cells. I've been digipeated twice this week
via NO-44 on ascending passes over North America. I've had better luck with
NO-44 northbound up and out of the USA when it has been in sunlight long
enough. The downlink is weak and sounds a bit off frequency and FMing with
the strain but one or two digipeats are still attainable per pass. Watch
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi for status. It is W3ADO-1 and
PCSAT-11 mixed in with all the PSAT messages on this page. Set UNPROTO CQ
VIA W3ADO-1.
NO-84 PSAT is active on packet. It seems it's downlink signal and wondering
perhaps it's receive sensitivity are gradually getting weaker compared with
signals a week ago. The downlink packet log at
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi will show satellite digipeater
status (plus any packets you get digipeated). When you see PSAT]APRSON it
means the NO-84 digipeater is active. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS for NO-84.
The status of ISS packet depends on the on-board activities. It was OFF
during the recent EVA. Packet seems to have been re-enabled until Tuesday's
undocking manueuvers. Watch http://www.ariss.net/ to see how recently
packets have been digipeated to guess it's status. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS
or UNPROTO CQ VIA RS0ISS (your preference, both work).
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of sean fay
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
> time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
> if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
> hours?
>
> Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
> active , if there is regular use of it during active times?
>
>
> Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if
you
> do see my packet being sent
>
> Sean
> AA0AN/EM29
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:06:11 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
Message-ID:
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Amateur radio was part of this week's episode of AMC's "Halt and Catch Fire".
In the opening part, the character Gordon had set up his ham shack in
a closet in his house and he was fiddling with his transceiver. He
says it was home-brew, but it was really an FT-101B, which I found
rather amusing. I thought I recognized the radio and, when I looked
closely during the replay of that episode, the model number could be
clearly seen.
I'm sure his on-air manner would have branded him as a lid, unless
such behaviour was permitted 30 years ago when the episode is supposed
to be set.
One thing I found odd was that it sounded like he was operating AM as
I think he was on HF. I remember when AM was common on those bands
where I grew up but that was during the mid-1960s. I thought that by
the 1980s, SSB was the main voice mode.
He was having problems making contacts, and his wife suggested that
maybe a lot of hams were possibly on-line. In the mid-'80s? I'm not
so sure about that, even though there were dial-in services and
bulletin boards available back then (I was active on a CompuServe
space board at the time). Even the use of the term "on-line" seems a
bit suspicious, as I don't recall it ever being used in those days.
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that amateur radio was part of
this week's story, despite some questionable details. Unfortunately,
nothing about satellites.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 03:00:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
Message-ID: <42931062.5308.1472871633378@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Bernhard,
I just checked that episode out on-line. It's Season 3,Episode 3. ?Yep, it's
a Yaesu FT-101B like I had myselfmany years ago. ?It's funny that he has his
shack in acloset just as I did in our first small house.
It's hard to tell what Mode he's in from the RX audio, butit looks like the
switch is in the Tune position. HIHI ?A latershot shows a Bug Key next to
the XCVR.
He's using the Call KC4L which is registered to a Hamin Gainesville, FL. I
wonder if he knows that??
Thanks for the tip on the Show. ? ? 73, ? ? Bob ?K8BL
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
Amateur radio was part of this week's episode of AMC's "Halt and Catch Fire".
In the opening part, the character Gordon had set up his ham shack in
a closet in his house and he was fiddling with his transceiver.? He
says it was home-brew, but it was really an FT-101B, which I found
rather amusing.? I thought I recognized the radio and, when I looked
closely during the replay of that episode, the model number could be
clearly seen.
I'm sure his on-air manner would have branded him as a lid, unless
such behaviour was permitted 30 years ago when the episode is supposed
to be set.
One thing I found odd was that it sounded like he was operating AM as
I think he was on HF.? I remember when AM was common on those bands
where I grew up but that was during the mid-1960s.? I thought that by
the 1980s, SSB was the main voice mode.
He was having problems making contacts, and his wife suggested that
maybe a lot of hams were possibly on-line.? In the mid-'80s?? I'm not
so sure about that, even though there were dial-in services and
bulletin boards available back then (I was active on a CompuServe
space board at the time).? Even the use of the term "on-line" seems a
bit suspicious, as I don't recall it ever being used in those days.
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that amateur radio was part of
this week's story, despite some questionable details.? Unfortunately,
nothing about satellites.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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