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G8MNY  > TECHNI   01.10.18 07:56l 132 Lines 5041 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Adjusting 78xx/79xx Regulators
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By G8MNY                                                (Updated Feb 05)
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There are 3 way to simply increase the regulator voltage.

1/ Add a series zener or diodes or a mixture in the common leg. Most makes of
regulator put about 50uA down the common leg, this may affect the zener/diode
drop. A pull up R of a few kê from the zener to the output could be needed with
slightly leaky zeners/diode to get the desired drop.

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       +12V >ÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄ´ 7805  ÃÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄ> +8V
RAW DC             ³    ÀÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÙ     ³
FROM       >2200uF ³+    comÃ Ä ÄRÄ Ä ´
BRIDGE      16V   ===      _³_        ³
RECTIFIER          ³       /_\` 3V   === 0.1u
& 10V AC           ³        ³         ³
         0V >ÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ>

Thermal stability fair, as it is dependent on Reg + Zener, 3 Ä 5V zeners
generally have the best stability!

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FROM              ³     com³         ³
BRIDGE    >2200uF ³+      _³_        ³
RECTIFIER  16V   ===      \_/ 0.5V  === 0.1u
& 8V AC           ³        ³         ³
        0V >ÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ>

If the diode is an LED, the voltage increase could be 1 Ä 1.5V depending on the
colour & current fed through it.

Thermal stability poor, as it is dependent on Reg + diode, the diode drop will
alter quite a lot hot to cold.

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                  ³         ÀÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÙ    ³     +15.0V NORMAL
RAW DC     >2200uF³+        com_³_       ³
FROM         30V ===           /_\'      ³
BRIDGE            ³   NORMAL____³ 10V   === 0.1u
RECTIFIER         ³ BOOST  O   _³_       ³
& 17V AC          ³       \o   \_/ 0.5V  ³
         0V >ÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ>

Thermal stability poor as it is dependent on Reg + Zener + diodes,


2/ Add a series R in the common leg. Most makes of regulator put about 50uA
constant current down the common leg, so a small R can uplift the voltage.

                     in ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿out
        +22V >ÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄ´ 7812  ÃÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄ> +13.80V
RAW DC           ³      ÀÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÙ  ³
FROM     >2200uF ³+      com³      ³
BRIDGE     30V  ===  Multi 10k    === 0.1u
RECTIFIER        ³     Turn ³      ³
& 16V AC  0V >ÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄ>

Thermal stability is good, as it is dependent on Reg + the constant current
through the R, but that will be regulator make dependent. 

3/ Add a voltage offset ratio arm. The 330 & 1k pot give a zero to 4x max ratio
arm, that magnifies the regulator voltage by up to 4 times, plus any voltage
gained by adding resistance in series with the common leg.

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RAW DC           ³    ÀÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÙ  ³    ³
FROM     >2200uF ³+   com ³     330ê  ³
BRIDGE     30V  ===       ³      ³   === 0.1u
RECTIFIER        ³        ³     1V    ³
& 17V AC         ³        ÀÄÄÄÄ>POT   ³
                 ³               ³    ³
        0V >ÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ>

Thermal stability good, as it is dependent on Reg/multiplier ratio.


NOTES
A/ For all 3 types the input must always exceed the O/P by at least 2V so that
the regulator's drop out voltage is always exceeded. There are low drop out
types available (0.3V - 1V).

          Volts
Off load 25_³ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
  On load __³    __  Discharge     __ v
  Peak 23   ³  /'  `-._          /'    Capacitor
  Mean 19 --³ /        `-._     /      Peak-Peak      Headroom is
   Min 16 __³/Charge       `-._/       Ripple         the voltage
            ³             Drop-out V  ^              above Dropout
   Reg O/P -³-----------------v------ X O/P ripple
      13.8  ³             Unregulated
            ³               Dips
            ³
            ³
            ÀÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄ>Time
                 90ø     180ø    270ø Supply Phase

B/ The maximium input voltage must not exceed the regulator max (e.g. 40V)
othewise it may well go short circuit & put 40V on the Output.

C/ Many regulator types have Thermal shutdown & the current rating of 100mA,
0.5A or 1A may be limited by poor heatsinking in practice. The higher the head
room voltage the more power has to be dissipated.
 
D/ The metal tabs must be insulated as they are connected to the regulator
common on positive types, which in not ground! They are also the most negative
part of a regulator so for -ve types that means the -ve input!

E/ If there is a possibility that the O/P may be powered but the input not a
diode must be put output to input across the regulator to protect it.

                    1N4001
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            ³      ÀÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÙ      ³         Battery




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