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PE1BIV > ALL 16.04.16 02:54l 92 Lines 4046 Bytes #999 (0) @ EU
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Subj: Re: Problem in R:LINE
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Sent: 160416/0045z @:PE1BIV.#YMD.NLD.EURO JNOS #:18884 $:18880_PE1BIV
Hi Luigi and others,
A big yest on .EURO in the H-address for European stations!
Please dump the .EU and move to the now some 20 years ago suggested
and accepted .EURO as continent designator for Europe.
And Sergej, GB7CIP has the H-address .#32.GBR.EURO !
So, if you see the bulletins from Paul arrive with .EU in stead of .EURO,
then someone calling himself Packet Sysop is altering the address!
The reason for the change has been, and still is the simple fact that
for Internet Country designators the choice was 2-letter designators,
like .af for Afghanistan, and it might only be some 15 years ago that
the .eu was added as European wide designator.
Because of that in the early 90's (!!!!!) the issue was discussed, and
everyone on Packet back then could have had his or her say in that, and
the suggestion was 4-letter continent designators, like the .EURO ...
And yes, that was accepted by the people who did participate in the
discussion.
Sergej, as we do not (not really that is) live on an island in a fully
containe world of our own, we simply should deal with the fact that the
bigger world outside of Amateur Radio started using the .eu, the .as,
etc. on the Internet...
We can stick our head in the sand or this, o just start shouting that
we were first and that they should have never used "OUR" designators
on the Internet, but then we do know that quite a few Amateur Packet
Radio operators live in their own fantasy world....
Like here, one of my JNOS Packet Radio systems was used and still can
receive Internet e-mail.
While I'm away from home, and with the netbook also while at home, I get
all my packet messages via that Internet connected system, and as I can
not determine where a message needs to go if it has .EU as the continent
designator, I have to filter on the .NLD.EU, .ITA.EU, .GBR.EU, country
designators for EACH country separate.
Well, I can tell you that I have not put the complete list of country
designatirs in the REWRITE file for JNOS, and thus if it is a message
to someone in Italy using ..ITA.EU is the H-address, that reply or
message will never be sent as my Internet connected system will simply
refuse the address..
So yes, please keep on shouting the Amateur Packet Raio was first and
has been using the 2-letter continent designaters for already 28 years..
It only shows your stubborn behaviour in having continued the use of the
2-letter continent designators for many more years after the 4-letter
designatorswere chosen where the time since has been way longer than that
Packet Radio has existed before the adoption of the 4-letter continent
designators.....
Again, just keep sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge
the fact that we live in a fully connected world where TCP/IP based Packet
Radio lives in the same world as the Internet and where these systems
interact with each other.
After all, we're using the 44.0.0.0 subnet exclusively for Amateur Packet
Radio, which is just only one subnet out of the whole, World wide used
On the Internet, IPv4 address protocol.
Rgs, 73, Angela
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I am opposed to my bulletins being placed on systems where these bulletins
can be publicly accessed by anyone, including search engines and spambots,
from the Internet, without that the user first has to logon to have access
to the system!
Having Packet bulletins on display on so many systems, where the sysops
think these bulletins are so important for the people outside of Amateur
Radio that they need to have access to them, quite often indefinitely, is
just ridiculous Internet polution!
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