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From: N1URO@N1URO.#CCT.CT.USA.NOAM
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Vincent et al;
I totally agree with Warren, internet did NOT kill packet. Lack of USERS and
lack of SYSOPS KILLED PACKET. "My local club BBS hasn't had a SysOp in years -
so I can't use it!
Messages don't get released."
Why don't messages get released? You're part of EastNet (I know you know the
website) we handle mail quite easily with systems that have been in place for
decades.
So let's go over your 3 points:
1) All mail took to Sat Gates as a priority, Pactor secondary. @USBBS is
a dead area because HUMANS make it dead. @EU is filtered as per our
EastNet specs. We don't expect @USBBS to be spread around the rest of
the globe nor do we spread around other continent's mail. That's how
it's always been in EastNet.
Humans are at fault, not internet. Of course we all know Motor Vehicles
kill too, not the alcohol coated Human that kills.
2) "users would grumble that they would need to check the BBS two or more
times per day" <snip> Wow really?? How often do they check SMTP based
mail on their smart phones? The notification triggers, you take a quick
peek and decide if you wish to answer it. Why would any packet BBS be
any different? "So they just stopped using the BBS." Again, Lack of
human interest. Packet is a thing. It can not perform the functions
of a human. How reliable it is takes the human interaction (such as
this bulletin) to give it any sort of value. I'll also note that it's
human nature to blame the "thing" for the failure of the "human".
Very pitiful but that's just my opinion (for what it's worth:
insert Buffalo Springfield song here)
3) Hams are great for brainwashing themselves into thinking things that just
aren't mathematically correct... especially in regard to financially
based decisions. In MANY cases you get what you pay for. Ok so higher
speed internet came about for anywhere from $50/mo to $100/mo if you
wanted to do some sort of a bundle package (now over $250/mo). At
today's cost of $250/mo for a bundled high speed internet package with
peudo potsline service and HD TV that's $3,000.00 year recurring! A
used TNC you can find for $50, decent packet rig for $150, coax for
I'll guess $50, antenna for say another $75, and perhaps a power
supply for another $100: total $525. Recurring: $0 no need to call any
ISP when your internet goes down, packet will still be going strong.
If you wish to discuss high speed, HamWan delivers easily 3 Gig speed over
amateur frequencies. Again, it takes HUMAN interest to build things to
make them work. The problem is we no longer get "mothers of invention" as
new hams - we get appliance users. I'm always willing to teach those who
have genuine interest in packet how to use its resources and build it up.
Very few have approached me because there's very little if any HUMAN
interest which explains:
"My local club BBS hasn't had a SysOp in years - so I can't use it!
Messages don't get released." Of course, we all know rather than putting
your name out there to become your club's packet SysOp, it's easier to
just gripe about that which is falsely perceived as "what is".
5 years ago, we had a very robust network, now about half of those nodes we
did have as EastNet are gone for a variety of reasons, all human related,
yet packet/internet as the entity of blame. When humans begin to take the
responsibility needed to make any network grow, than it shall however until
such time it will continue to fade away into the "clouds".
73 de N1URO
EastNet Packet Radio
https://www.eastnetpacket.org
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