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>From i0ojj@i0ojj.ampr.org Fri Jun 18 10:25:03 2021
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>From: Gustavo Ponza <i0ojj@i0ojj.ampr.org>
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Hi all,
On 6/18/21 7:03 AM, n1uro@n1uro.#cct.ct.usa.noam wrote:
> R:210618/0510Z 8223@VK2RZ.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC LinBPQ6.0.21
> R:210618/0509Z 18205@VK2IO.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC BPQ6.0.21
> R:210618/0509Z 21518@GB7YEW.#79.GBR.EURO LinBPQ6.0.18
> R:210618/0509Z 628@LU9DCE.TOR.BA.ARG.SOAM BPQ6.0.21
> R:210618/0504Z @:K3CHB.#EPA.PA.US.NOAM #:12327 [Camp Hill] $:3832_N1URO
> R:210618/0503Z @:N1URO.#CCT.CT.USA.NOAM #:3832 [Unionville] $:3832_N1URO
>
> Charles;
>
>>From n2nov@n2nov.ampr.org Wed Jun 16 13:12:34 2021
> Received: from n2nov.ampr.org by n2nov.ampr.org (JNOS2.0m.5G) with SMTP
> id AA221941 ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:12:34 EDT
> Message-Id: <221939@n2nov.ampr.org>
>> From: n2nov@n2nov.ampr.org
> X-JNOS-User-Port: Telnet (n2nov @ 44.68.41.2) -> Sending message
>
> Does the above add to any mail message? I really don't think so. This can be
> mooted by shutting OFF smtptoo and would save lines of text from being sent
> out.
I remember that as stated above was a general
recommendation in vogue ante 1990s since we
go with PBBS and digipeaters based on only
radio/tnc/modem at maximum speed of 1200 bds;
so any bit would be saved for necessity.
The fact that, almost in this part of world,
we (my system, in particular) can send thousands
messages in ten seconds demonstrates that there
is no limitation about transfer speeds and no
limits in our ultra-gigabytes Hard Disks.
>> This is a message that I sent out to F1OYP about his complaints of a
>> particular station using a particular piece of bbs software as the fault:
>
>> Will you people get over yourself with the software wars? This has been
>> going on in all areas of IT/Tech since the 1980s! The JNOS software has
>> capabilities that most sysops do not understand, especially when all they
>> seem to want is a plug and play bbs solution as seen by many who have
>> lately jumped on the packet systems and think that they are now part
>> of a network.
>
> NNTP was one of the earlier protocols used for mail forwarding between stations
> for many many years - HOWEVER - it was never EVER used as a tool to import
> mail from the internet, especially profanity, and put thousands of licenses
> in jeopardy. I believe that's where a lot of the confusion is coming from.
How many actual Ham people know NNTP and how many
of them is capable to use it?
I was not aware about any bad language or profanity
at al, stored on that technical mailing lists...
> Because of your above statement is all the more reason why a developer needs
> to take extra precautionary measures to fool-proof software so accidental
> usage with such high ramifications to a global network is not done. Prior to
> this occuring I did infact privately inform the author of JNOS about possible
> issues with NNTP and it was simply "noted". I don't think any LICENSED HAM
> who's ruling administration will say "Ok N2NOV passed mails in regards to
> illegal drug selling around the globe because someone who's experimenting
> with NNTP relayed it to him". When a pub sells a patron an excess of alcohol
> and that patron hits and possibly kills another driver the establishment who
> sold that "1 more drink" in many places is also liable.
> 73
> ---
> SendBBS v1.1 by N1URO for LinFBB
We (me) are sane enough and skilled to use advanced
software... but first of all, in this context we are
ham radio; no one with a sane brain can invent to
do a bad job on introducing illegal stuff!
Furthermore, about the actual JNOS2 developer, He is
a God benediction for the ham Community, and so, when
contacted should be ONLY for improvements or for
further software developments, and not to annoy him
with claims!
Now you can enjoy since NNTP has been *practically*
dropped since there are no NNTP server on 44-net!
--
73 and ciao, gustavo i0ojj/ir0aab/ir0eq
non multa, sed multum
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