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Today's Topics:

   1. Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets (vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx
   2. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (Jerry Buxton)
   3. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (Fernando Ramirez)
   4. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (fabrice faure)
   5. Re: [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
      (Kenneth Finnegan)
   6. Re: [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
      (Andrew Rich)
   7. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (Pedro Converso)
   8. Re: [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
      (Andrew Rich)
   9. Re: [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
      (Andrew Rich)
  10. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (Greg D)
  11. Re: [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
      (Tucker McGuire)
  12. Re: Best SDR for satellite reception (Norm n3ykf)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 03:27:47 +1000
From: <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	<aprssig@xxxx.xxx>,
<ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
Message-ID: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello



Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet with
space data.



UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than two
minutes out



We are essentially loosing space packets.



I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.



I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it



Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?



Andrew



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:29:10 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID: <0c3feb98-0fa0-eba8-b2cf-8b42e77b405a@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

SDR# works with SatPC32 DDE for FUNcube Dongle Doppler control.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 8/13/2017 12:25, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> In Windows, you can configure SatPC32 to control HDSDR through a virtual
> serial cable as well.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, fabrice faure <fab4space@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
>> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>>
>> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx> a ?crit :
>>
>>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>>
>>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>>> satellites.
>>>
>>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>>
>>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
>> 1296
>>> MHz use.
>>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>>
>>>> It's 12 bits
>>>> It's got tracking filters
>>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>>
>>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>>
>>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:47:10 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8gHR9CYq01HqPJScDMkUmmxtW0kR_wzrnPfQY3phkaA1g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

SatPC32 will also control the SDRPlay with SDRUno the same way.

My linear satellite setup is a FT-817nd, a SDRPlay and a laptop running
SDRUno and SatPC32. The radio communicates with SatPC32 via a CAT Bluetooth
dongle. Make sure to add filters on each feedline to get rid of desense, if
using an Arrow antenna.

73
Fernando, NP4JV

On Aug 13, 2017 10:28 AM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> In Windows, you can configure SatPC32 to control HDSDR through a virtual
> serial cable as well.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, fabrice faure <fab4space@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
> > 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
> >
> > Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx> a ?crit :
> >
> > > Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> > > frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> > > linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> > > 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> > > LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
> > >
> > > I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
> > > satellites.
> > >
> > > More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> > > SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> > > Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> > > signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> > > 144 MHz moon bounce.
> > >
> > > WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> > > doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> > > compensation.
> > >
> > > The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> > > application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> > > compensation.
> > >
> > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> > > interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
> > 1296
> > > MHz use.
> > > >
> > > > I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> > > >
> > > > It's 12 bits
> > > > It's got tracking filters
> > > > It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> > > >
> > > > The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> > > >
> > > > I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > > Opinions expressed
> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
> > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:49:54 +0200
From: fabrice faure <fab4space@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID:
<CA+4TZV9YfGpmJa6GDGwX6+nkBYk+-TrXcMq=ucLn277VT8tvow@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

yes, it is still available from various online resellers.
Fabrice F4HHV

Le 13 ao?t 2017 14:31, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> a ?crit :

> Can you still buy them Fabrice ?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From:* fabrice faure [mailto:fab4space@xxxxx.xxxx
> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 August 2017 10:01 PM
> *To:* Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
> *Cc:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> For the best performance with vhf / uhf I would recommend the funcube
> dongle pro+ without hesitation.
>
>
>
> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>
>
>
> Le 13 ao?t 2017 13:06, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> a ?crit :
>
> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
> MHz use.
>
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:51:42 -0700
From: Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping
packets
Message-ID:
<CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.

Kenneth Finnegan

On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
> with space data.
>
>
>
> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
> two minutes out
>
>
>
> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>
>
>
> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>
>
>
> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>
>
>
> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>
>


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:12:52 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxxx ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping
packets
Message-ID: <98C8CEB8-3F17-42BE-A1C1-CFC7C573F90F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I can use what I like

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan
<kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.
>
> Kenneth Finnegan
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
with space data.
>>
>>
>>
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
two minutes out
>>
>>
>>
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>>


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:43:48 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID:
<CANTZqK=Oz4KtxaDsS0dX43BwVBez2KxA5aakHKkS0OpxC781+g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hello Paul,

Regarding software to control doppler on SDR:

For sats, I run HDSDR V2.76 using a generic SDR with RTL2832 Chip.

Running http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe handles nicely SDR Freqs.

Seamlessly clicking any satellite, its Freqs+Dopplers are set on SDR.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>
> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
satellites.
>
> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>
> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> compensation.
>
> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> compensation.
>
> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
wrote:
>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
MHz use.
>>
>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>
>> It's 12 bits
>> It's got tracking filters
>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>
>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>
>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>
>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:16:35 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxxx ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping
packets
Message-ID: <606C0EFD-F785-4D4C-9ECB-C5E5CAFEB969@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogant

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan
<kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.
>
> Kenneth Finnegan
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
with space data.
>>
>>
>>
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
two minutes out
>>
>>
>>
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>>


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:39:13 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxxx ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping
packets
Message-ID: <3DE5ADAA-8CDE-4294-8A86-CF6FD4E8E13F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Who are "we"

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan
<kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.
>
> Kenneth Finnegan
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
with space data.
>>
>>
>>
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
two minutes out
>>
>>
>>
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>>


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:40:03 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: fabrice faure <fab4space@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID: <683e2e78-b366-39ee-b589-5192524dd7ba@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

HA!  Never thought of using them together.  Got it working with my
generic RTL Dongle; so easy!

Thanks!

Greg  KO5TH


fabrice faure wrote:
> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>
> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx> a ?crit :
>
>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>
>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>> satellites.
>>
>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>
>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>> compensation.
>>
>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>> compensation.
>>
>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
>> MHz use.
>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>
>>> It's 12 bits
>>> It's got tracking filters
>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>
>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>
>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>
>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:49:07 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxxx ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xxx AMSAT -BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping
packets
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Andrew,

Most every post I see you make in this BB is either rude, full of
complaints, or similar. Perhaps if you worded your responses in a more
strategic, kinder way, you would receive kinder, more helpful answers or
responses in return.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS

On Aug 13, 2017 3:35 PM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

Who are "we"

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan <
kennethfinnegan2007@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.
>
> Kenneth Finnegan
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
with space data.
>>
>>
>>
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
two minutes out
>>
>>
>>
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:52:12 -0500
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
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Telling HDSDR to emulate (rtl dongle) a TS-2000 allows any program to
control it. PSTrotator, Satpc32, etc.

I use VSPmanager (free for hams) to handle the virtual serial ports necessary.

Flex 5000a can use the same work around. Not all programs will control
a Flex. Telling PowerSDR to emulate a TS-2000 allows the Doppler
correction to be set, along with basic xcvr control.

Best SDR? Nooelec. The one in the aluminum box works best related to
cost. Only downfall of the cheapie RTL's is that they drift with
temperature. The aluminum box handles EMI/temperature swings well
without a big investment.

Funcube dongles are pricy due to VAT. Nice, but not $200 worth of
improvement, compared to the Nooelec.

Ettus B210 is a great radio. A fair amount of building is necessary to
complete the project. Amp chips, power supplies, relays and the like.
Doable, but assembly requires a fair amount of time, materials and
energy.

All of them (except the Flex 5000a) are somewhat limited in the AGC
department.

Norm n3ykf

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> HA!  Never thought of using them together.  Got it working with my
> generic RTL Dongle; so easy!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg  KO5TH
>
>
> fabrice faure wrote:
>> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
>> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>>
>> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx> a ?crit :
>>
>>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>>
>>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>>> satellites.
>>>
>>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>>
>>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
1296
>>> MHz use.
>>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>>
>>>> It's 12 bits
>>>> It's got tracking filters
>>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>>
>>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>>
>>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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