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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: ISS Repeater Clarification (Richard Lawn)
   2. Icom 910H & AO-85 (dhagert)
   3. Re: Icom 910H & AO-85 (Paul Stoetzer)
   4. Re: Icom 910H & AO-85 (Andrew Rich)
   5. Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th (Ruth)
   6. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (Andrew Rich)
   7. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (Sean Kutzko)
   8. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (Jeremy Turner)
   9. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (Matthew Stevens)
  10. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (Tucker McGuire)
  11. Re: Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
      (R.T.Liddy)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:46:39 +0000
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Taylor <w8aas@xxxxxxx.xxx>, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
Message-ID:
<CADQmrTF9LEPh53J83sHNXmwcK1x8Un9sk0YWe=URBT5a_Jqoug@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I had several nice contacts on a morning pass over fn21. Great signals.
Rick, W2JAZ

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> ISS crossband repeater seemed off on 2043 UTC pass over NA. Digipeater was
> on though.
>
> On Aug 22, 2017 8:03 AM, "Dave Taylor" <w8aas@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Yes, using the radio as a voice repeater does interfere with the intended
>> use.  The Russian team set this up at the last minute because they were
>> concerned about getting telemetry from their satellites, which might be
>> spinning more than they had expected.  They are hoping the nearby receiver
>> on ISS can capture and retransmit telemetry that is not being picked up on
>> the ground.
>>
>> I do not know if this applies primarily over Europe and Asia, or if
>> repeater use is a problem everywhere.  I would guess that the satellite
>> teams would appreciate receiving telemetry from anywhere it is heard.
>> There might be something on the satellite websites about that.  I am not
>> directly involved.
>>
>> Dave, W8AAS
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
>> > student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
>> > Russia)?
>> >
>> > Greg  KO6TH
>> >
>> >
>> > John Brier wrote:
>> >> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
>> >> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
>> >> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
>> >> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
>> >> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
>> >> frequency on ariss.org for example.
>> >>
>> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>> 437.050 uplink
>> >>>
>> >>> 73,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike Diehl
>> >>> AI6GS
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is
>> there a
>> >>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>> >>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21.
>> I was
>> >>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>> >>>> Thanks for clarification
>> >>>> 73
>> >>>> Rick, W2JAZ
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >>>> Subscription settings:
>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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>>
>> --
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:35:12 -0500
From: "dhagert" <dhagert@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
Message-ID: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H with
no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how you
configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 12:22:00 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: dhagert <dhagert@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOpWuiAytGWamT4xo_+Md1y4mUuTASmE2CnCTKyxeAe-iQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Be sure your cable is connected to the "DATA OUT" pin (pin 4) and not "AF
OUT" (pin 5). You need the unfiltered audio from the 9600 bps pin.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM, dhagert <dhagert@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H
> with
> no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how
> you
> configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:44:54 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: dhagert <dhagert@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
Message-ID: <CCDE4CB2-542F-4F2D-9E49-993FD9AFE1D2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Dale

For those that are interested can you describe the frequency , OS, mode,
data format, software, result

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Aug 2017, at 1:35 am, dhagert <dhagert@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H with
> no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how you
> configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 21:34:45 -0400
From: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August
26th
Message-ID: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi all,

I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me
and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under
my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z
AO-85 pass.

All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.

73!
Ruth
KM4LAO

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 11:51:00 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID: <B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

You know Ruth

I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate

I have not yet had any one go that extra mile

People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not

I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and
there are those people that don't

I don't waste my time with the non doers

Why should it take some else to get another motivated

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me
and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under
my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z
AO-85 pass.
>
> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>
> 73!
> Ruth
> KM4LAO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:15:07 -0400
From: Sean Kutzko <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID: <8CB87E3D-18BF-47D9-AA02-842B2CCDE505@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Presenting to others is about raising  awareness in your activity. One will
not be interested in something if one doesn't know it exists.

You will not get 100% interest in your presentation. However, you may get a
few. Raising the awareness of a few is better than not trying. Play the long
game; it pays off in the end.

Sean KX9X

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> You know Ruth
>
> I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
>
> I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
>
> People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
>
> I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and
there are those people that don't
>
> I don't waste my time with the non doers
>
> Why should it take some else to get another motivated
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me
and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under
my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z
AO-85 pass.
>>
>> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>>
>> 73!
>> Ruth
>> KM4LAO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:09:49 -0700
From: Jeremy Turner <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID:
<CAO4qtUc8T4m7KOxxOFq-w+f0N-sMYO6jP3K5XTChJ2HFkp835g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Very cool Ruth!

I'll listen for you from DN70 in Colorado.

73,

Jeremy / KO6RM

On August 23, 2017 at 19:35:47, Ruth (ruthwillet@xxx.xxxx wrote:

Hi all,

I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
17:59z AO-85 pass.

All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.

73!
Ruth
KM4LAO
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 21:54:57 -0500
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID: <FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.

The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet if
they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
just might.

73,

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> You know Ruth
>
> I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
>
> I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
>
> People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
>
> I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and
there are those people that don't
>
> I don't waste my time with the non doers
>
> Why should it take some else to get another motivated
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me
and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under
my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z
AO-85 pass.
>>
>> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>>
>> 73!
>> Ruth
>> KM4LAO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:08:33 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID:
<CA+gmQJTGxo1VyGkwOeggfeQwXL5z-qQq6E-1vuCsqHhyGHPw5Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I am glad that folks like Ruth KM4LAO, Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and
others go and do demos of satellite operations for clubs. Even if you spark
interest in just 1 person out of 500 you've done a great job introducing
folks to a new part of the hobby!

I for one am not surprised folks haven't gotten interested after you've
gone and spoken to them, Andrew. If your interactions at these meetings are
anything like your "Internet persona" i.e. being condescending to those
asking questions, general rudeness, etc. chances are you're probably
driving folks away. Your negativity here is annoying and getting old quite
frankly.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS



On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
> many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.
>
> The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet
> if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
> hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
> just might.
>
> 73,
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > You know Ruth
> >
> > I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
> have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> >
> > I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> >
> > People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do
> and there are those people that don't
> >
> > I don't waste my time with the non doers
> >
> > Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
> Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
> helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
> throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
> me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
> under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
> 17:59z AO-85 pass.
> >>
> >> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
> >>
> >> 73!
> >> Ruth
> >> KM4LAO
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 03:38:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "ruthwillet@xxx.xxxx <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday,
August 26th
Message-ID: <6441320.1131802.1503545898942@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Anyone that was fortunate enough to witness the enthusiastic crowd
at the AMSAT Satellite Demos at this year's Hamvention would know
that a Satellite Demo/Workshop can be a big draw. Once people learn
that Sat Communications can be easily done with simple inexpensive
stations, the bug can bite them. One thing is for sure - when people do

nothing, nothing happens. Go get'em, Ruth!
GL/73,   Bob  K8BL


________________________________
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th



I am glad that folks like Ruth KM4LAO, Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and
others go and do demos of satellite operations for clubs. Even if you spark
interest in just 1 person out of 500 you've done a great job introducing
folks to a new part of the hobby!

I for one am not surprised folks haven't gotten interested after you've
gone and spoken to them, Andrew. If your interactions at these meetings are
anything like your "Internet persona" i.e. being condescending to those
asking questions, general rudeness, etc. chances are you're probably
driving folks away. Your negativity here is annoying and getting old quite
frankly.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS



On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
> many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.
>
> The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet
> if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
> hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
> just might.
>
> 73,
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > You know Ruth
> >
> > I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
> have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> >
> > I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> >
> > People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do
> and there are those people that don't
> >
> > I don't waste my time with the non doers
> >
> > Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
> Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
> helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
> throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
> me and other operatorste program!
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