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Today's Topics:
1. Source of AO-85/Fox-1 elements? (Phil Karn)
2. Re: Source of AO-85/Fox-1 elements? (Paul Stoetzer)
3. Richardson Wireless Klub Satellite Demo! (Mac A. Cody)
4. Re: FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex Mode (Andrew Rich)
5. Re: FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex Mode (Andrew Rich)
6. FalconSat-3 packets Igated (Ken Swaggart)
7. Gerard Auvray F6FAO Silent Key (christophe.mcr)
8. Re: Great Lakes HamCon Satellite Demo! (Doug Andrews)
9. FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex Mode (Roland Zurmely)
10. Dizzy (Andrew Rich)
11. Re: FalconSat-3 packets Igated (Andrew Rich)
12. Re: FalconSat-3 packets Igated (Jack Chomley)
13. Satreporter new feature callsign search (Andrew Rich)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 17:22:04 -0700
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Source of AO-85/Fox-1 elements?
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What is the source of the AO-85/FOX-1 orbital elements I see through the
usual channels? Kelso's Celestrak isn't carrying them. When I inquired,
I learned that it's US policy not to release elements for any object
associated with an NRO launch -- and AO-85 was launched with USA 264,
2015-058A, #40964.
Kelso already asked for an exception but was denied. But NRO isn't doing
a very good job of hiding our satellite, as current elements are readily
available on the (German) Heavens-Above site:
1 40967U 15058D 17278.51421614 .00000880 00000-0 11831-3 0 01124
2 40967 064.7745 244.1947 0178987 037.6014 323.7456 14.75520632016072
Even the *primary* (spook) payload USA264 also has current elements there:
1 40964U 15058A 17278.82038009 0.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00
2 40964 63.4416 239.2742 0066660 175.8104 184.1896 13.40733320 01
though these probably came from the dedicated worldwide team of
volunteer SEESAT observers that for decades has provided the dual public
service of producing their own element sets for US spy satellites and
making fools of the US spooks in the process.
And a close comparison will show that USA264 and AO-85 aren't even in
the same orbit, which makes the non-publication policy even sillier than
it first appeared.
"When everything is classified, nothing is classified..."
--Phil
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 20:33:38 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Phil Karn <karn@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Source of AO-85/Fox-1 elements?
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AMSAT pulls the keps from the Space-Track database. I believe the
policy for secondary payloads on classified missions allows only the
satellite owners or their designated representatives to do so. We can
then redistribute them ourselves.
Of course, this policy does not make much sense. Russia and China know
exactly where all of our classified satellites are. The only
consequence is that we're inconvenienced. My favorite iOS tracking app
pulls solely from Celestrak, so I have to use another app for NO-84
and AO-85.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Phil Karn <karn@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What is the source of the AO-85/FOX-1 orbital elements I see through the
> usual channels? Kelso's Celestrak isn't carrying them. When I inquired,
> I learned that it's US policy not to release elements for any object
> associated with an NRO launch -- and AO-85 was launched with USA 264,
> 2015-058A, #40964.
>
> Kelso already asked for an exception but was denied. But NRO isn't doing
> a very good job of hiding our satellite, as current elements are readily
> available on the (German) Heavens-Above site:
>
> 1 40967U 15058D 17278.51421614 .00000880 00000-0 11831-3 0 01124
> 2 40967 064.7745 244.1947 0178987 037.6014 323.7456 14.75520632016072
>
> Even the *primary* (spook) payload USA264 also has current elements there:
>
> 1 40964U 15058A 17278.82038009 0.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00
> 2 40964 63.4416 239.2742 0066660 175.8104 184.1896 13.40733320 01
>
> though these probably came from the dedicated worldwide team of
> volunteer SEESAT observers that for decades has provided the dual public
> service of producing their own element sets for US spy satellites and
> making fools of the US spooks in the process.
>
> And a close comparison will show that USA264 and AO-85 aren't even in
> the same orbit, which makes the non-publication policy even sillier than
> it first appeared.
>
> "When everything is classified, nothing is classified..."
>
> --Phil
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 21:11:15 -0500
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Richardson Wireless Klub Satellite Demo!
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Greetings,
On Monday, October 9th, I will be giving a presentation at the Richardson
(Texas) Wireless Klub on how to get started communicating through amateur
satellites. I will focus particularly on the FM transponder satellites.
After the presentation, I'll present a live demonstration, weather
permitting,
by working the 0119 UTC (October 10th) pass of SO-50. I will be using
my call
sign, AE5PH, for all QSOs and I'll still be in grid square EM12. I hope to
hear you Monday evening!
73,
Mac Cody / AE5PH
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 07:20:50 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex
Mode
Message-ID: <A9E1B8BF-C406-4591-8A1C-7DAFB0C7FF2B@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I watched it go over on an SDR waterfall
Its got a lot of doppler on it
Andrew
> On 7 Oct 2017, at 3:35 am, Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> All:
>
> I tried accessing Falconsat-3's BBS via PFS3-12 this afternoon, but I
wasn't able to connect. I'm using Easyterm with an experimental full-duplex
sound card modem by UZ7HO. This version has it's DCD disabled to allow
full-duplex operation.
>
> Assuming the BBS is turned on, are there any special parameters needed
when using a simple terminal program? It would be nice to use Wisp again,
but I don't see a way to use a sound card modem with this program.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony -K2MO
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 07:22:24 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex
Mode
Message-ID: <130B12F4-0661-4093-A127-B4ECD89B5DB4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Cool
Don?t forget to feed to APRS-IS !!
Andrew
> On 7 Oct 2017, at 4:26 am, Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott:
>
>> hit a roadblock with the DCD... I could only transmit when there was no
incoming data detected, which is very rare! -Scott, K4KDR
>
> Same here...
>
> I asked Andy (UZ7HO) about this and he whipped up a full-duplex version of
Soundmodem in a matter of hours. Works great with the DCD is disabled. If
you send him an email, I'm sure he'll send you a copy. His email address is
available on QRZ.
>
>> As for your live, on-air testing, have you tried any APRS messaging
transmissions instead of attempting to access the BBS?
>
> Plan on doing that on the next pass!
>
> Thanks Scott...
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
> On 10/6/2017 1:44 PM, Scott wrote:
>> Hey Tony!
>>
>> Don't have an answer for you but I'm really glad to see your message. I
have been experimenting offline with TX through the UZ7HO high-speed
soundmodem using recorded FalconSat-3 9k6 data for my RX stream. However, I
hit a roadblock with the DCD... I could only transmit when there was no
incoming data detected, which is very rare!
>>
>> As for your live, on-air testing, have you tried any APRS messaging
transmissions instead of attempting to access the BBS?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Scott, K4KDR
>> Montpelier, VA USA
>>
>>
>> =========================================
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tony
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 1:35 PM
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex Mode
>>
>> All:
>>
>> I tried accessing Falconsat-3's BBS via PFS3-12 this afternoon, but I
>> wasn't able to connect. I'm using Easyterm with an experimental
>> full-duplex sound card modem by UZ7HO. This version has it's DCD
>> disabled to allow full-duplex operation.
>>
>> Assuming the BBS is turned on, are there any special parameters needed
>> when using a simple terminal program? It would be nice to use Wisp
>> again, but I don't see a way to use a sound card modem with this program.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tony -K2MO
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 09:36:56 -0700
From: "Ken Swaggart" <k.swaggart@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3 packets Igated
Message-ID: <023f01d33f8a$7e0acc70$7a206550$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I've set up my station to Igate FalconSat-3 packets. Haven't seen any ham
calls yet, but the packets are getting through. Here's the links to the raw
data from several of FalconSat-3's callsigns:
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-1
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PCTRL-8
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-11
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-12
Using Dire Wolf set for 9600 baud, SDRsharp, AirSpy SDR, mast-mounted
preamp, 14 x 14 crossed Yagi RHCP, G5500 rotor, home brew tracking software.
Signals on SDRsharp are about 17 to 24 dB SNR.
73,
Ken, W7KKE
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 19:38:11 +0200
From: "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gerard Auvray F6FAO Silent Key
Message-ID:
<CADF-Vj2dGvONORVt+eQxNFPgZ-LamshLRcUZwMNM-03Xd+LrrQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Dear
G?rard Auvray, F6FAO, passed away on 17 October 2017.
Gerard was Amsat-F president. He was very involved in the Hamradio
satellite community and contributed to several satellites that were
launched in space : Ars?ne, Spoutnik 40, Spoutnik 41, Idefix 1 et 2,
cubesat like Robusta, QB50 P2, X-cubesat et Spacecube.
He also shared his passion with many students, amateurs and hamradio people
. He has contributed to other projects / activities such as providing help
during 1985 Mexico City earthquake, promoting experimental balloons and
solar balloons? He was also involved in Big Jump project.
G?rard's funeral will take place in the strictest intimacy.
http://site.amsat-f.org/2017/10/07/gerard-auvray-f6fao-silent-key/
73
Christophe
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 02:16:18 +0000
From: Doug Andrews <dougg27@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Great Lakes HamCon Satellite Demo!
Message-ID:
<CO2PR06MB697E11C896F4455769B818CB4710@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Ruth,
I'll try for the SO-50 pass if you wsnt a CN88 grid. I have worked that area
before.
73,
Doug
.- ..-. --... --.. --.-
-------- Original message --------
From: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
Date: 10/5/17 6:32 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Great Lakes HamCon Satellite Demo!
Hello satellite operators,
Listen up for K8MIS on the air on Saturday October 7th! I have been asked to
give a satellite demo on Saturday at the Great Lakes HamCon and will be
operating under the Great Lakes Amateur Radio Association Special Event
callsign, K8MIS. Assuming the weather cooperates, I plan to be on the 15:57z
SO-50 pass. I may also be on the 14:18z SO-50 pass depending on the timing
of the activities there. I?ll be operating from the grid square EN72 and
hope to hear you on Saturday!
73,
Ruth
KM4LAO
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 23:11:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roland Zurmely <py4zbz@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3: UZ7HO's Soundmodem Full Duplex Mode
Message-ID: <2092300567.3506394.1507417916827@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Congratulations to Andy UZ7HO for the great software!Please see my test here:
<http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/falconsat.htm#b>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 07:27:08 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dizzy
Message-ID: <7E91F745-B8D3-4E1E-BDCE-BE8EEFB01FF0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
K3DQB>APAGW,PSAT,ARISS*,ISS,PSAT,qAR
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 07:35:21 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ken Swaggart <k.swaggart@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3 packets Igated
Message-ID: <95C22360-5C18-466D-8F92-B961829E57D9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Seen this ?
http://59.167.159.165/satreporter/index2.html
Sent from my iPhone
> On 8 Oct 2017, at 2:36 am, Ken Swaggart <k.swaggart@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I've set up my station to Igate FalconSat-3 packets. Haven't seen any ham
calls yet, but the packets are getting through. Here's the links to the raw
data from several of FalconSat-3's callsigns:
>
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-1
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PCTRL-8
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-11
>
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-12
>
>
> Using Dire Wolf set for 9600 baud, SDRsharp, AirSpy SDR, mast-mounted
preamp, 14 x 14 crossed Yagi RHCP, G5500 rotor, home brew tracking software.
Signals on SDRsharp are about 17 to 24 dB SNR.
>
> 73,
> Ken, W7KKE
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 12:09:08 +1000
From: Jack Chomley <vk4jrc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FalconSat-3 packets Igated
Message-ID: <E5B1F2E3-D46F-40B1-B8E4-C67A9C17C555@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Errrrr.....what am I meant to see, in the vast sea of packets?
73,
Jack VK4JRC
Club. www.cqara.org.au
> On 8 Oct 2017, at 7:35 am, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Seen this ?
>
> http://59.167.159.165/satreporter/index2.html
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 8 Oct 2017, at 2:36 am, Ken Swaggart <k.swaggart@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> I've set up my station to Igate FalconSat-3 packets. Haven't seen any ham
calls yet, but the packets are getting through. Here's the links to the raw
data from several of FalconSat-3's callsigns:
>>
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-1
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PCTRL-8
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-11
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=PFS3-12
>>
>>
>> Using Dire Wolf set for 9600 baud, SDRsharp, AirSpy SDR, mast-mounted
preamp, 14 x 14 crossed Yagi RHCP, G5500 rotor, home brew tracking software.
Signals on SDRsharp are about 17 to 24 dB SNR.
>>
>> 73,
>> Ken, W7KKE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 17:05:37 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satreporter new feature callsign search
Message-ID: <EAE99F3B-40AD-4417-A842-725310446F56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Colour panels now 4 hours
Stats are daily
Search on callsign
Sing out if you can think of more
Andrew
Sent from my iPhone
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