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Today's Topics:

   1. Changes to sat reporter coming (Andrew Rich)
   2. Satellite Tracking Engine (Andrew Rich)
   3. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (David Johnson)
   4. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Joe Fitzgerald)
   5. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Mike Diehl)
   6. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Joseph Armbruster)
   7. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Norm n3ykf)
   8. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Don Sandstrom)
   9. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Andrew Rich)
  10. Wisp Compression Program (Tony)
  11. VUCC Awards/Endorsements for October 2017 (John Papay)
  12. Re: Satellite Tracking Engine (Joseph Armbruster)
  13. [wsjtgroup] Caution Urged in Using High Duty Cycle	Digital
      Modes on Satellites (Ted)
  14. Re: [wsjtgroup] Caution Urged in Using High Duty	Cycle
      Digital Modes on Satellites (JoAnne Maenpaa)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 01:27:50 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Australian APRS Users <ozaprs@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Changes to sat reporter coming
Message-ID: <9C2C863D-EF06-46A0-BB59-06A182C1FD15@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Hello

Some enhancements are coming to satreporter

There will be a new main table sorted by last heard to give you an idea of
what was heard in time

The uptime an availability has been very good

I might setup a production and live machine to make interruptions seamless

Let me know if any other satellites need to be added

I can also do email alerts for satellites

I want also to do a daily report of APRS satellites

I have to rework the statistics

Andy VK4TEC

http://59.167.159.165 <http://59.167.159.165/>




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 02:31:06 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID: <42A6B510-3A33-41C2-944A-85DBFBB25433@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
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Hello

I used to make use of predict using scripts

Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along

What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about

Satellite elevation and angle

Satellite doppler frequency

I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
update keeps

I want to use perl to do the hard work

I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator

Andrew

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 19:04:19 +0000
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID: <182071C9-060F-401A-A225-6A1E3A01D9CE@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I have an open source Java / tomcat web app that provides that and can make
it available.

73

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 16:31, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>
> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>
> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>
> Satellite elevation and angle
>
> Satellite doppler frequency
>
> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
update keeps
>
> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>
> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 15:49:16 -0400
From: Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID: <9bfe5596-2358-14d4-0d9d-04be1d32203f@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The libastro library contains essentially the same tracking functions
that Predict uses internally.? It is available for most distributions.?


73 de KM1P Joe





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 16:03:58 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID: <C32ADA93-2979-4DAD-A8CA-B9EDFEBDCF33@xxxxx.xxx>
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All of the above can be handled by an Arduino or compatible board that has a
wifi or Ethernet module. I did it with an Adafruit Feather M0 and TFT
feather wing. I started development on the auto update of keps from AMSAT
using a wifi version of the board. I had to pack all that stuff up when I
relocated out of Los Angles but now that I have to deal with winter I plan
to get back to some of these projects that are collecting dust. You can have
a look at one of my posts on twitter here
https://twitter.com/w8lid/status/894272192480911360

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>
> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>
> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>
> Satellite elevation and angle
>
> Satellite doppler frequency
>
> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
update keeps
>
> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>
> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 16:24:04 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID:
<CADkz4c94fZ+U4kM1rE=SrBPbzmjfixHTB8gvT0V_SZE7=Pn97g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Andrew,

I wrote this a while back but it's still worth a look if you don't ind
using Python on your PI.  Google code is gone these days but so many
others had forked the project that I didn't bother backing it up.
Here's a url:

https://github.com/u0m3/ge-satellite-tracker

Joe

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>
> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>
> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>
> Satellite elevation and angle
>
> Satellite doppler frequency
>
> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
update keeps
>
> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>
> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 15:55:08 -0400
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID:
<CAJUhCTN2vNvWO+syYV8Bu4X7Mwjb2ZpvN_D1vzBPw9fAQEp5tg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

ANGST: G3RUH plan 13 algorithim libraries for arduino.

The original BBC basic code (plan 13 ) is easy to read.

Have fun.

Norm n3ykf

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
wrote:
> The libastro library contains essentially the same tracking functions
> that Predict uses internally.  It is available for most distributions.
>
>
> 73 de KM1P Joe
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 12:50:13 -0700
From: Don Sandstrom <w7vxs@xxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID:
<CAGVjcAuE=i05dE=Q0zPct69piPkwCyd50gCVh_L9f33ntmxKLA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Andrew - If you can use Python, consider the pyephem module. It can predict
satellite passes, calculate azimuth/elevation, determine eclipse state, etc
based on TLE data. See http://rhodesmill.org/pyephem/tutorial.html.

73 - Don, W7VXS

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>
> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>
> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>
> Satellite elevation and angle
>
> Satellite doppler frequency
>
> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
> update keeps
>
> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>
> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 06:30:39 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
To: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID: <6C10A6A8-9DCD-4FE9-8660-B6A6B2066ADB@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I think I used predict for LINUX

Does that ring a bell ?

Andrew

> On 2 Nov 2017, at 6:24 am, Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I wrote this a while back but it's still worth a look if you don't ind
> using Python on your PI.  Google code is gone these days but so many
> others had forked the project that I didn't bother backing it up.
> Here's a url:
>
> https://github.com/u0m3/ge-satellite-tracker
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>
wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>>
>> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>>
>> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>>
>> Satellite elevation and angle
>>
>> Satellite doppler frequency
>>
>> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
update keeps
>>
>> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>>
>> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>>
>> Andrew
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 20:24:33 -0400
From: Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wisp Compression Program
Message-ID: <60a3639f-538d-a17a-5d8c-7a30765358f6@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

All:

Is anyone seeing the error "Compression Program Missing" when sending a
file with Wisp Message Maker? Apparently, the compression program
(PKZIP?) is missing from the Wisp directory.

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 19:52:27 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for October 2017
Message-ID: <20171102011223.0DDEF8A14@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

The VUCC Standings for October 2017 are improving in terms
of callsigns that have gone missing.  AI6GS K7TAB N1AIA
and AK4WQ(EN34) are back on the list.  This month I am listing
the previous months totals along with this months totals for
the ones that have changed.  If you don't agree with what is
on the November 1st listing, please contact the ARRL DXCC desk
and make that known.

Call	10/2/17	11/1/17
KO4MA	1562	1598
KB1RVT	1550	1554
AC0RA	1142	1194
WC7V	1101	1157
N8RO	1010	1020
AA5PK	 875	 996
K8TL	 973	 982
NP4JV	 552	 680
K6FW	 606	 661
N9IP	 502	 542
NJ4Y	 502	 516
W4FS	 482	 488
K5ND	 351	 391
WD9EWK	 375	 384
N9EAT	 135	 336
AI6GS		 290
N1AIA	 	 257
W7QL	 211	 252
K7TAB		 186
W4DTA	 151	 180
VA3NNA	 102	 176
K0FFY		 173 NEW VUCC
KX9X	 159	 172
AK4WQ(EN34)	 158
K9EI		 118 NEW VUCC
K4RGK	 100	 108
KE9AJ		 106 NEW VUCC
G0ABI		 105 NEW VUCC
KE4AL		 100 NEW VUCC

Congratulations to everyone who made the list this month.

This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf
listings for October 2nd and November 1st, 2017.  It's a visual
comparison so omissions are possible.  Apologies if your
call was not mentioned.  Thanks to all those who are
roving to grids that are rarely on the birds.  They are
doing most of the work!

73,
John K8YSE


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 20:12:09 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
To: w7vxs@xxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Tracking Engine
Message-ID:
<CADkz4c8VD3XvHwx1-qAbTqrAMKyHQPbQEFODj4NxK0jwrFgGYg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Dan,

The tracker I wrote depends on pyephem :-)

Joe

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Don Sandstrom <w7vxs@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Andrew - If you can use Python, consider the pyephem module. It can predict
> satellite passes, calculate azimuth/elevation, determine eclipse state, etc
> based on TLE data. See http://rhodesmill.org/pyephem/tutorial.html.
>
> 73 - Don, W7VXS
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I used to make use of predict using scripts
>>
>> Since then the raspberry pi and arduinos have come along
>>
>> What LINUX satellite tracking program could be queried or send data about
>>
>> Satellite elevation and angle
>>
>> Satellite doppler frequency
>>
>> I want to make a multi satellite radio and rotor control box with auto
>> update keeps
>>
>> I want to use perl to do the hard work
>>
>> I want an arduino or the Pi to do the doppler and rotator
>>
>> Andrew
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:25:42 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] [wsjtgroup] Caution Urged in Using High Duty Cycle
Digital Modes on Satellites
Message-ID: <00b801d35379$80228310$80678930$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

FYI from the wsjt Group



73, K7TRK



From: wsjtgroup@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:wsjtgroup@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx On Behalf
Of Bob McGraw K4TAX RMcGraw@xxxxxxx.xxx [wsjtgroup]
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:05 PM
To: Wsjt
Subject: [wsjtgroup] Caution Urged in Using High Duty Cycle Digital Modes on
Satellites





Satellite enthusiasts planning to try FT8 or MSK144 via satellite are
being urged to use caution or possibly to avoid digital modes altogether
in light of problems being blamed on the modes? high duty cycle.
Stations have reported problems getting into satellite transponders,
even during favorable passes, which were traced to digital-mode signals
in the transponder passband.

AMSAT News Service quoted an AMSAT-BB post (full thread) by Matthew
Stevens, NJ4Y, who cited his recent experience with FO-29.

?Experimentation isn?t the problem, too much power is,? Stevens said.
?It?s bad enough on SSB, worse with CW, and killer on constant duty
cycle modes like FT8.? ? Thanks to AMSAT News Service

Source:
http://www.arrl.org/news/caution-urged-in-using-high-duty-cycle-digital-modes-
on-satellites

73
Bob, K4TAX

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:15:23 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [wsjtgroup] Caution Urged in Using High Duty
Cycle	Digital Modes on Satellites
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> FYI from the wsjt Group

AMSAT is the original author of this message. It was first released in
ANS-295:
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/ans/2017/000989.html

It is good that other news sources picked up on the message. Early reports
indicated problems with these modes on the current satellites and discussed
them on amsat-bb.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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