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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Sean Waite)
2. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Paul Andrews)
3. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Mac A. Cody)
4. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Devin L. Ganger)
5. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Sean Waite)
6. Re: FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for Beginning and
Experienced Operators (Sean K.)
7. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-12-13 09:00 UTC
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 00:36:06 +0000
From: Sean Waite <waisean@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
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I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working the
satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This includes both
these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the challenges of doing the
same.
Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
73,
Sean WA1TE
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I don?t have him on my logs either.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Zach,
> >
> > Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't have
> your
> > call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a QSO
> with
> > you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if you're not
> > active on the birds.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave, KG5CCI
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
> > > > Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
> too...Ugh!
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > John KI4RO
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who resort
> > > to disparaging insults.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > --- Zach
> > > N0ZGO
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:10:16 -0500
From: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Sean Waite <waisean@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
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I think that satellite DX is very exciting. The challenge of selecting the
perfect orbit to complete a long distance QSO at the extreme limits of the
satellite footprint. Two station completing a QSO at less than 1 degree
Elevation. Exciting!
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Dec 12, 2017 19:38, "Sean Waite" <waisean@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working the
satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This includes both
these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the challenges of doing the
same.
Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
73,
Sean WA1TE
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I don?t have him on my logs either.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Zach,
> >
> > Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't have
> your
> > call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a QSO
> with
> > you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if you're
not
> > active on the birds.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave, KG5CCI
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
> > > > Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
> too...Ugh!
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > John KI4RO
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who
resort
> > > to disparaging insults.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > --- Zach
> > > N0ZGO
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:11:55 -0600
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
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I would hope that another reason for working the satellites is
experimentation
to broaden the applications of amateur satellites. This is seen, of late,
with the resurgence of 'Experimenter's Wednesday' on AO-85.? I would like to
see more experimentation in other areas.? Here are some examples and I'm
sure
that there are others:
o Use of LEO satellites for emergency response traffic (e.g. Narrow Band
Emergency
Messaging Software - NBEMS).
o Use/development of alternative modulation schemes on linear
transponder satellites
to enable more efficient use or lower the barrier to access (e.g.
double-sideband
modulation, digital voice, low-power digital modes).
o Development and test of homebrew satellite ground stations to lower
the barrier
to working amateur satellites (e.g. antenna systems, filters, amplifiers,
full-duplex transceivers).
73,
Mac Cody - AE5PH
On 12/12/2017 06:36 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
> I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working the
> satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This includes both
> these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the challenges of doing the
> same.
>
> Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
> contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
> limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
>
> 73,
> Sean WA1TE
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I don?t have him on my logs either.
>>
>> Jeff WE4B
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zach,
>>>
>>> Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't have
>> your
>>> call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a QSO
>> with
>>> you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if you're not
>>> active on the birds.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Dave, KG5CCI
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
>>>>> Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
>> too...Ugh!
>>>>> 73
>>>>> John KI4RO
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who resort
>>>> to disparaging insults.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> --- Zach
>>>> N0ZGO
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
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>> of
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:29:21 +0000
From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
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There's the "Doctor Who" reason:
Satellites are COOL.
--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Mac A. Cody
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:12 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
I would hope that another reason for working the satellites is
experimentation to broaden the applications of amateur satellites. This is
seen, of late, with the resurgence of 'Experimenter's Wednesday' on AO-85.?
I would like to see more experimentation in other areas.? Here are some
examples and I'm sure that there are others:
o Use of LEO satellites for emergency response traffic (e.g. Narrow Band
Emergency Messaging Software - NBEMS).
o Use/development of alternative modulation schemes on linear transponder
satellites to enable more efficient use or lower the barrier to access (e.g.
double-sideband
modulation, digital voice, low-power digital modes).
o Development and test of homebrew satellite ground stations to lower the
barrier to working amateur satellites (e.g. antenna systems, filters,
amplifiers, full-duplex transceivers).
73,
Mac Cody - AE5PH
On 12/12/2017 06:36 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
> I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working
> the satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This
> includes both these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the
> challenges of doing the same.
>
> Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
> contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
> limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
>
> 73,
> Sean WA1TE
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I don?t have him on my logs either.
>>
>> Jeff WE4B
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zach,
>>>
>>> Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't
>>> have
>> your
>>> call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a
>>> QSO
>> with
>>> you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if
>>> you're not active on the birds.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Dave, KG5CCI
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
>>>>> Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
>> too...Ugh!
>>>>> 73
>>>>> John KI4RO
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who
>>>> resort to disparaging insults.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> --- Zach
>>>> N0ZGO
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views
>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 02:15:05 +0000
From: Sean Waite <waisean@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
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Bow ties are cool, too.
So we have a bunch of other uses for the birds. How does this fit into rule
6? Do rare grids make way for DX? Does DX make way for NBEMS?
I'm new to the satellite game, so I don't really have an opinion, but maybe
there is more discussion here than a simple dismissal. Maybe not. Almost
every grid is a new grid for me.
Sean WA1TE
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 20:31 Devin L. Ganger <devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There's the "Doctor Who" reason:
>
> Satellites are COOL.
>
>
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx
> web: Devin on Earth
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Mac A.
> Cody
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:12 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
> Beginning and Experienced Operators
>
> I would hope that another reason for working the satellites is
> experimentation to broaden the applications of amateur satellites. This is
> seen, of late, with the resurgence of 'Experimenter's Wednesday' on AO-85.
> I would like to see more experimentation in other areas. Here are some
> examples and I'm sure that there are others:
>
> o Use of LEO satellites for emergency response traffic (e.g. Narrow Band
> Emergency Messaging Software - NBEMS).
>
> o Use/development of alternative modulation schemes on linear transponder
> satellites to enable more efficient use or lower the barrier to access (e.g.
> double-sideband
> modulation, digital voice, low-power digital modes).
>
> o Development and test of homebrew satellite ground stations to lower the
> barrier to working amateur satellites (e.g. antenna systems, filters,
> amplifiers, full-duplex transceivers).
>
> 73,
>
> Mac Cody - AE5PH
>
> On 12/12/2017 06:36 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
> > I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working
> > the satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This
> > includes both these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the
> > challenges of doing the same.
> >
> > Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
> > contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
> > limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
> >
> > 73,
> > Sean WA1TE
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I don?t have him on my logs either.
> >>
> >> Jeff WE4B
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Zach,
> >>>
> >>> Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't
> >>> have
> >> your
> >>> call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a
> >>> QSO
> >> with
> >>> you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if
> >>> you're not active on the birds.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Dave, KG5CCI
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
> >>>>> Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
> >> too...Ugh!
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> John KI4RO
> >>>> John,
> >>>>
> >>>> I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who
> >>>> resort to disparaging insults.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>>
> >>>> --- Zach
> >>>> N0ZGO
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
> >>> Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >>>> views
> >> of
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 03:48:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Sean Waite <waisean@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
Beginning and Experienced Operators
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Hi all-
Matthew NJ4Y and a few others put it more succinctly than I did: Item 6 in
my document is about extending courtesy to a station that goes to the
trouble of setting up away from their home or back yard. That can be for a
demo, a special event station at a hamfest, or a rare grid. All item 6 is
asking for is some consideration for that op's effort.
I live in grid FN31. It's a very common location. I tend to focus on calling
other stations on FM passes from Connecticut.
I activate other grids from time to time. When I do so, I usually take a
full-duplex linear station with me, so I can work the more capable stations
on SSB. But I still work FM passes, because there are some stations that
only have FM capability. Sometimes I only take an HT with me, and am limited
to FM only.?Here are a couple examples: This July, I was back home in
Illinois, and did a few SO50 passes from the EM59/EM69 grid line with my HT
and Arrow. EM69 is kind of rare (not sure why), so I was happy to hand it
out. One pass, I made 17 QSOs. Another pass, W4FS was on as K2J from North
Carolina for the 13 Colonies special event; we split the pass.... I took the
first half, Tucker took the second. It all worked out just fine, with no
advance planning or coordination.
One night, I'd announced on Twitter I was going to the grid line for an SO50
pass. AA5UK was in the Cayman Islands, and announced he was able to make a
quick trip to FK09, a very rare grid, but was only there for a day or so.
His access to passes was very limited and his time was short. He was in a
far rarer location than I was...he was going to be able to hand out a rare
grid and possibly a new DXCC entity for many people, so I bailed out and let
him take the pass. I went back to my grid line the next night, after AA5UK
had left his rare spot. No skin off my nose, and I didn't interfere with
people trying to work a much more enticing station than me.
That kind of courtesy and awareness is all item 6 is advocating for. If a
station is on from a different DXCC entity, a cruise ship handing out water
grids, or doing a demo at a Scout Jamboree, throw 'em a bone. If you were
the station of interest, I'd wager you would appreciate the opportunity.
And of course, if a bona fide emergency pops up and a LEO is the only way a
station can get a message out, then everybody else should stand by.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X
On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, 9:15:55 PM EST, Sean Waite
<waisean@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Bow ties are cool, too.
So we have a bunch of other uses for the birds. How does this fit into rule
6? Do rare grids make way for DX? Does DX make way for NBEMS?
I'm new to the satellite game, so I don't really have an opinion, but maybe
there is more discussion here than a simple dismissal. Maybe not. Almost
every grid is a new grid for me.
Sean WA1TE
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 20:31 Devin L. Ganger <devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There's the "Doctor Who" reason:
>
> Satellites are COOL.
>
>
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin@xxxxxxxx.xxx
> web: Devin on Earth
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Mac A.
> Cody
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:12 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellites: Good Operating Practices for
> Beginning and Experienced Operators
>
> I would hope that another reason for working the satellites is
> experimentation to broaden the applications of amateur satellites. This is
> seen, of late, with the resurgence of 'Experimenter's Wednesday' on AO-85.
> I would like to see more experimentation in other areas.? Here are some
> examples and I'm sure that there are others:
>
> o Use of LEO satellites for emergency response traffic (e.g. Narrow Band
> Emergency Messaging Software - NBEMS).
>
> o Use/development of alternative modulation schemes on linear transponder
> satellites to enable more efficient use or lower the barrier to access (e.g.
> double-sideband
> modulation, digital voice, low-power digital modes).
>
> o Development and test of homebrew satellite ground stations to lower the
> barrier to working amateur satellites (e.g. antenna systems, filters,
> amplifiers, full-duplex transceivers).
>
> 73,
>
> Mac Cody - AE5PH
>
> On 12/12/2017 06:36 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
> > I'll bite. As far as I can tell, there are 2 main reasons for working
> > the satellites. Chasing grids and making contacts via space. This
> > includes both these acts as well as the fun of overcoming the
> > challenges of doing the same.
> >
> > Maybe Zach has a third option that we haven't considered, one that is
> > contrary to the grid hunt. Rag chews aren't really viable due to the
> > limited resource and short time, but there could be something else.
> >
> > 73,
> > Sean WA1TE
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 19:05 Jeff Johns <jeff30339@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I don?t have him on my logs either.
> >>
> >> Jeff WE4B
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, David Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Zach,
> >>>
> >>> Do you avoid Satellites too? I've looked thru my logs and I don't
> >>> have
> >> your
> >>> call in there. I've asked a few other prolific ops and they lack a
> >>> QSO
> >> with
> >>> you as well. Just curious why the strong feelings on Item 6 if
> >>> you're not active on the birds.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Dave, KG5CCI
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/12/17 14:25, John KI4RO wrote:
> >>>>> Just like rare DX Zach...you must be a great operator on HF
> >> too...Ugh!
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> John KI4RO
> >>>> John,
> >>>>
> >>>> I generally avoid 160 meters, as there are too many on there who
> >>>> resort to disparaging insults.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>>
> >>>> --- Zach
> >>>> N0ZGO
> >>>>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:10:46 -0500
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-12-13
09:00 UTC
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-12-13 09:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Taipei Municipal Ximen Elementary School, Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C., direct
via BN?SM (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP
Contact is a go for: Thu 2017-12-21 08:49:07 UTC 72 deg
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**
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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***
All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Francesco IK?WGF with 132
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 126
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Sergey RV3DR with 100
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-12-13 09:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1199.
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1148.
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2017-12-12 18:00 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 52 on orbit
Randy Bresnik
Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Sergey Ryazanskiy
Exp. 53 on orbit
Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP
Alexander Misurkin
Joe Acaba KE5DAR
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73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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