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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Programming software for FT-847? (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
2. Re: Programming software for FT-847? (Adrian Engele)
3. Satellite Es'hail 2 Launch date:?!!! (iw5bsf@?????.???
4. Re: Programming software for FT-847? (Burns Fisher)
5. Falcon Heavy Launch Time (B J)
6. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (B J)
7. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (B J)
8. Re: Programming software for FT-847? (Burns Fisher)
9. SatPC32 setup questions (radiomb)
10. Re: Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking (Peter Goodhall)
11. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (B J)
12. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (jim@?????.????
13. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (Greg)
14. FW: kiron satTrak IV (James Barron)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 01:53:30 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Programming software for FT-847?
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Greg,
FTBasicMMO from http://www.g4hfq.co.uk
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Feb 6, 2018 1:48 AM, "Greg D" <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Any recommendations for configuration programming software for the Yeasu
> FT-847? Something similar to what Kenwood provides for their rigs -
> basic configs (memory frequency, mode, etc.), and preferably free, but
> nothing shows up on their site.
>
> I see that RT Systems has something, but my frustration level isn't high
> enough to warrant buying both software and a special cable to do it. I
> was just trying to enter memory settings for AO-91 and AO-92, and
> managed to overwrite the wrong memory channel...
>
> There's a bit of "shareware" by WB8NUT, but I can't verify that it
> actually works because until you buy it, it won't talk to the radio.
> Cheaper than the RT product, but I'm rather put off by its evaluation
> terms. No sale.
>
> Nothing else comes up that seems viable (e.g. a website that still exists).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 13:17:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@?????.???>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Programming software for FT-847?
Message-ID: <691218382.3970477.1517923030160@????.?????.???>
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I have used this program. Works great and at $15 it is a bargain.
73, Adrian AA5UK
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 12:56:43 AM CST, Dave Webb KB1PVH
<kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
Greg,
FTBasicMMO from? http://www.g4hfq.co.uk
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Feb 6, 2018 1:48 AM, "Greg D" <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Any recommendations for configuration programming software for the Yeasu
> FT-847?? Something similar to what Kenwood provides for their rigs -
> basic configs (memory frequency, mode, etc.), and preferably free, but
> nothing shows up on their site.
>
> I see that RT Systems has something, but my frustration level isn't high
> enough to warrant buying both software and a special cable to do it.? I
> was just trying to enter memory settings for AO-91 and AO-92, and
> managed to overwrite the wrong memory channel...
>
> There's a bit of "shareware" by WB8NUT, but I can't verify that it
> actually works because until you buy it, it won't talk to the radio.
> Cheaper than the RT product, but I'm rather put off by its evaluation
> terms.? No sale.
>
> Nothing else comes up that seems viable (e.g. a website that still exists).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg? KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:32:15 +0100 (CET)
From: "iw5bsf@?????.??? <iw5bsf@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Es'hail 2 Launch date:?!!!
Message-ID: <1616bbf0069.iw5bsf@?????.??>
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link
https://www.satbeams.com/satellites?id=2683
73 de iw5bsf Roberto
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 10:55:20 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Programming software for FT-847?
Message-ID:
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If you mainly want to load memories with freq/mode/tone/name etc, then
CHIRP works nicely on my FT-817, so I assume it would also work for an
847. It also works on several Kenwood radios that I have tried!
https://chirp.danplanet.com
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Any recommendations for configuration programming software for the Yeasu
> FT-847? Something similar to what Kenwood provides for their rigs -
> basic configs (memory frequency, mode, etc.), and preferably free, but
> nothing shows up on their site.
>
> I see that RT Systems has something, but my frustration level isn't high
> enough to warrant buying both software and a special cable to do it. I
> was just trying to enter memory settings for AO-91 and AO-92, and
> managed to overwrite the wrong memory channel...
>
> There's a bit of "shareware" by WB8NUT, but I can't verify that it
> actually works because until you buy it, it won't talk to the radio.
> Cheaper than the RT product, but I'm rather put off by its evaluation
> terms. No sale.
>
> Nothing else comes up that seems viable (e.g. a website that still exists).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:13:16 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
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https://twitter.com/spacex
Due to upper level wind conditions, estimated lift-off is now for 1920 UTC.
Go Falcon Heavy! Go SpaceX!
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:16:12 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkNZTC-Br5Y+cOGCgk=wtZWkVg8cffR+beVzjQcVfZicMw@????.?????.???>
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According to this:
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/
it's now set for no earlier than 2015 UTC. An updated time is pending.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:04:39 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkNGKhPmW80OBRMMJDbguhL7aNT0bkHL93z3BPyoxFZUKg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Lift-off is now scheduled for 2045 UTC (1545 EST), though the launch
window closes at 2100 UTC.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 14:07:27 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Programming software for FT-847?
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxW_PZs02-FKyMXiEt9nTNZhiOeWNRpSL_b6hNfxACjPFw@????.?????.???>
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Yes, I just discovered. Sorry about that. I hardly imagined it would work
for the 817 and the 857, but not the 847! BTW, it also does not work for
an ICOM 910H, as I just discovered with my new rig :-) No big deal since
the memories on the 910H are only semi-useful anyway without labels!
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
> Thanks, Burns, but the list of supported radios for CHIRP does not list
> the 847. Apparently, this rig is a bit of an odd bird...
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
>
> Burns Fisher wrote:
>
> If you mainly want to load memories with freq/mode/tone/name etc, then
> CHIRP works nicely on my FT-817, so I assume it would also work for an
> 847. It also works on several Kenwood radios that I have tried!
>
> https://chirp.danplanet.com
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Any recommendations for configuration programming software for the Yeasu
>> FT-847? Something similar to what Kenwood provides for their rigs -
>> basic configs (memory frequency, mode, etc.), and preferably free, but
>> nothing shows up on their site.
>>
>> I see that RT Systems has something, but my frustration level isn't high
>> enough to warrant buying both software and a special cable to do it. I
>> was just trying to enter memory settings for AO-91 and AO-92, and
>> managed to overwrite the wrong memory channel...
>>
>> There's a bit of "shareware" by WB8NUT, but I can't verify that it
>> actually works because until you buy it, it won't talk to the radio.
>> Cheaper than the RT product, but I'm rather put off by its evaluation
>> terms. No sale.
>>
>> Nothing else comes up that seems viable (e.g. a website that still
>> exists).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Greg KO6TH
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:23:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 setup questions
Message-ID: <21383539.4847018.1517945036318@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
?? I have a few more SatPC32 questions. I have LVB tracker working with my
G-5500 rotor using HyperTerminal and USB port 13. In setup rotor it only
talks about LPT ports 1-4. Since I do not have any?parallel ports I entered
0. If I understand right I need to update the ParPort.SQF file? Manual says
how to find in window 98, 2000,XP. I have windows 7, I cannot find a way to
find these values. On the rotor setup I have Yaesu_GS-232. The manual said
not all the next?fields are used in every?tracker but here is what I came up
with (0 70 n -3). In port address it has $0000 and I cannot find the address
to enter. And lastly how do you turn rotor tracking on or off? I see in
options to how to start?tracking at start up but I would?like to?track only
when I am planning on working the birds. And turn off when I am just
watching all the sats.?Is there anyone out there that would not mind me
asking some of these questions off group so I am not filling up the BB with
basic questions?Tnx 73 Mike
? K4MIA
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:46:59 +0000
From: Peter Goodhall <peter@?????.???>
To: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
Message-ID:
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The issue isn't AOS times matching its todo with doppler correction.
Previously (Not aware it's been fixed) it doesn't allow for proper
calibration between radio and the software so doppler is never correct
so you drift in an odd way.
HRD has always tracked a satellite in the sense of rotator pointing
beyond that, however, it's got/had some really odd quirks.
Before I gave up I used it on FM satellites but for automated control
when using linear it was just unusable.
If there's been some sudden correction recently Mike then do let us know.
(Sorry can't help offer experience to dev, C++,MFC isn't my strong
point more a slap together simple C# apps to interact with apps todo
what I want)
Peter, 2M0SQL
On 6 February 2018 at 02:11, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hmmm... is everyone else just on an old version or something?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>
>> That is correct.
>>
>> Frank, K6FW
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/18 12:34 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>> You're on the 787 release then?
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> I run HRD Sat, SatPC32 and MacDoppler on my computer and all the AOS
>>> times match. I am running the latest release from September 2017 of HRD
>>> Sat.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> K6FW
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/5/18 9:16 AM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>
>>>> As someone said previously, it's probably a math problem that got
>>>> buggered
>>>> up somewhere along the way.
>>>>
>>>> We will get this fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed mention about issues with HRD Sat tracking. No "specific"
>>>>> problems were mentioned I have used HRD for may years, and know it
>>>>> pretty
>>>>> well.
>>>>> After the last few "updates", an upcoming sat pass in HRD, the pass
>>>>> over my
>>>>> QTH, is about 5 - 10 minutes later.
>>>>> I, also run SatPC32 at the same time, along with pass predictions from
>>>>> other Web sites. All of the predictions agree, except for HRD, reporting
>>>>> the pass later. I have missed many passes using HRD.
>>>>> When I switched to SatPC32, I started hearing passes.
>>>>> My "keps" are current, QTH is correct, time is correct, and all the
>>>>> "personal" information is correct in the HRD Logbook. I am "totally"
>>>>> stumped.
>>>>> Best toAll
>>>>> WB1FXX
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:58:28 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
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The launch was successful. Both side boosters landed at Cape
Canaveral, with the status of the main booster pending. The second
stage, including the Tesla, is now in LEO.
An excellent first launch for a new booster. Well done, SpaceX!
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 13:16:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
Message-ID: <1517951800.2489494@????.?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Beautiful to watch!
73
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Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???
-----Original Message-----
From: "B J" <va6bmj@?????.???>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:58
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
The launch was successful. Both side boosters landed at Cape
Canaveral, with the status of the main booster pending. The second
stage, including the Tesla, is now in LEO.
An excellent first launch for a new booster. Well done, SpaceX!
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:19:33 -0500
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
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Yes it was! Anyone know if Starman and the Tesla have a beacon?
Greg
N3MVF
On Feb 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, jim@?????.??? wrote:
Beautiful to watch!
73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???
-----Original Message-----
From: "B J" <va6bmj@?????.???>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:58
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
The launch was successful. Both side boosters landed at Cape
Canaveral, with the status of the main booster pending. The second
stage, including the Tesla, is now in LEO.
An excellent first launch for a new booster. Well done, SpaceX!
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 15:22:46 -0600
From: "James Barron" <wb5aaa@???.???>
To: <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: kiron satTrak IV
Message-ID: <01a701d39f90$a1d84a90$e588dfb0$@???.???>
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Subject: kiron satTrak IV
I have this SATTRAK IV
On the shelve and just wanted to know if it is still useful ?
73 de jim wb5aaa
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