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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking (Mvivona)
2. HRD Sat portion of HRD program (Ted Krempa)
3. Re: Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking (Ted Krempa)
4. Where is my Roadster? (Greg D)
5. Re: Where is my Roadster? (Greg D)
6. Re: Where is my Roadster? (Ted Krempa)
7. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (Alan)
8. Re: Unknown new satellite MXSAT (Nico Janssen)
9. Re: Falcon Heavy Launch Time (B J)
10. Re: Unknown new satellite MXSAT (Paul Stoetzer)
11. Re: Unknown new satellite MXSAT (Nico Janssen)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 21:23:51 -0500
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@?????.???>
To: peter@?????.???
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
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Peter,
I have been told the same thing about HRD, however nobody has ever given me
precise explanations on what the 'odd quirks' are.
I have used It for controlling my radios Doppler correction in the past and
it's rock solid. It's just a predefined formula that runs. The same formula
that is used by all Doppler tracking programs.
The only drawback that I ran into was having no real way to adjust the
Doppler tuning on the fly like you can with SatPC32. It has a tic-box to
enable manual tuning during Doppler correction but it doesn't work. Without
this feature it is literally impossible to use on the linear birds. Getting
this fixed would be a giant leap forward in making it a viable satellite
application.
Michael KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Peter Goodhall <peter@?????.???> wrote:
The issue isn't AOS times matching its todo with doppler correction.
Previously (Not aware it's been fixed) it doesn't allow for proper
calibration between radio and the software so doppler is never correct
so you drift in an odd way.
HRD has always tracked a satellite in the sense of rotator pointing
beyond that, however, it's got/had some really odd quirks.
Before I gave up I used it on FM satellites but for automated control
when using linear it was just unusable.
If there's been some sudden correction recently Mike then do let us know.
(Sorry can't help offer experience to dev, C++,MFC isn't my strong
point more a slap together simple C# apps to interact with apps todo
what I want)
Peter, 2M0SQL
On 6 February 2018 at 02:11, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hmmm... is everyone else just on an old version or something?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>>
>> That is correct.
>>
>> Frank, K6FW
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/18 12:34 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>> You're on the 787 release then?
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> I run HRD Sat, SatPC32 and MacDoppler on my computer and all the AOS
>>> times match. I am running the latest release from September 2017 of HRD
>>> Sat.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> K6FW
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2/5/18 9:16 AM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As someone said previously, it's probably a math problem that got
>>>> buggered
>>>> up somewhere along the way.
>>>>
>>>> We will get this fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed mention about issues with HRD Sat tracking. No "specific"
>>>>> problems were mentioned I have used HRD for may years, and know it
>>>>> pretty
>>>>> well.
>>>>> After the last few "updates", an upcoming sat pass in HRD, the pass
>>>>> over my
>>>>> QTH, is about 5 - 10 minutes later.
>>>>> I, also run SatPC32 at the same time, along with pass predictions from
>>>>> other Web sites. All of the predictions agree, except for HRD, reporting
>>>>> the pass later. I have missed many passes using HRD.
>>>>> When I switched to SatPC32, I started hearing passes.
>>>>> My "keps" are current, QTH is correct, time is correct, and all the
>>>>> "personal" information is correct in the HRD Logbook. I am "totally"
>>>>> stumped.
>>>>> Best toAll
>>>>> WB1FXX
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>> program!
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>>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:04:08 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Michael Carper, Ph.D.'" <mike@??????.???>, "'Frank'"
<k6fw1@???????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Sat portion of HRD program
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Hi Mike, since I literally dragged you to this board, there are some things
you will learn about this group. First, there is a lot of embedded (and
IMHO, irrational) bias about the HRD Sat program that, as happens in human
nature, just goes back to the urban legend status. Some folks are entrenched
and there is no hope of changing that bias. There are new users that will
take you at your word that you are working on the program and will be
patient. Another category are folks that tried the program 6-7 years ago and
have made the call that 'it just does not 'work'"...they can't tell you why
or provide much useful input, "it just don't work because someone told me
that 3 years ago". Another related category are the folks Rick pissed off.
(enough said about the departed)
So you challenge will be to find that new developer and as far as this
resource, elicit some useful input from folks that are willing to use the
program and provide some objective information to correct the issues.
With that said, my view is that the issue primarily applies to the use of
linear sats. I believe the program tracks the LEOS and the doppler
correction makes the program useful. Whether or not it is spot on, is over
my paygrade. I just know that I got my VUCC using HRD about 95% of the time
and on LEO sats. As I have said before, run the HRD sat program side by
side. The glaring diff I have seen is in altitude, not el or az. But, again
above my no-code paygrade.
So, bottom line with this Group...be patient. Most of them have forgotten
your post of a couple of days ago outlining your commitment to resolve the
software issues. I believe in your commitment. Some will complain if they
were hung with a new rope...
So, hang in there and keep asking specifics from the Group. I'm confident
you can get it handled.
73, Ted
K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 6:12 PM
To: Frank
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
Hmmm... is everyone else just on an old version or something?
Mike, WA9PIE
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
> That is correct.
>
> Frank, K6FW
>
>
> On 2/5/18 12:34 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> You're on the 787 release then?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>
>> I run HRD Sat, SatPC32 and MacDoppler on my computer and all the AOS
>> times match. I am running the latest release from September 2017 of
>> HRD Sat.
>>
>> Frank
>> K6FW
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/18 9:16 AM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>>> As someone said previously, it's probably a math problem that got
>>> buggered up somewhere along the way.
>>>
>>> We will get this fixed.
>>>
>>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Francis Geraci
>>> <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have noticed mention about issues with HRD Sat tracking. No "specific"
>>>> problems were mentioned I have used HRD for may years, and know it
>>>> pretty well.
>>>> After the last few "updates", an upcoming sat pass in HRD, the pass
>>>> over my QTH, is about 5 - 10 minutes later.
>>>> I, also run SatPC32 at the same time, along with pass predictions
>>>> from other Web sites. All of the predictions agree, except for HRD,
>>>> reporting the pass later. I have missed many passes using HRD.
>>>> When I switched to SatPC32, I started hearing passes.
>>>> My "keps" are current, QTH is correct, time is correct, and all the
>>>> "personal" information is correct in the HRD Logbook. I am "totally"
>>>> stumped.
>>>> Best toAll
>>>> WB1FXX
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:15:54 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Mvivona'" <Mvivona@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
Message-ID: <006701d39fca$597d9950$0c78cbf0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mike, open the 'tuning dial' and you can use the sliders on the right
73, Ted
K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Mvivona via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:24 PM
To: peter@?????.???
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
Peter,
I have been told the same thing about HRD, however nobody has ever given me
precise explanations on what the 'odd quirks' are.
I have used It for controlling my radios Doppler correction in the past and
it's rock solid. It's just a predefined formula that runs. The same formula
that is used by all Doppler tracking programs.
The only drawback that I ran into was having no real way to adjust the
Doppler tuning on the fly like you can with SatPC32. It has a tic-box to
enable manual tuning during Doppler correction but it doesn't work. Without
this feature it is literally impossible to use on the linear birds. Getting
this fixed would be a giant leap forward in making it a viable satellite
application.
Michael KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Peter Goodhall <peter@?????.???> wrote:
The issue isn't AOS times matching its todo with doppler correction.
Previously (Not aware it's been fixed) it doesn't allow for proper
calibration between radio and the software so doppler is never correct so
you drift in an odd way.
HRD has always tracked a satellite in the sense of rotator pointing beyond
that, however, it's got/had some really odd quirks.
Before I gave up I used it on FM satellites but for automated control when
using linear it was just unusable.
If there's been some sudden correction recently Mike then do let us know.
(Sorry can't help offer experience to dev, C++,MFC isn't my strong point
more a slap together simple C# apps to interact with apps todo what I want)
Peter, 2M0SQL
On 6 February 2018 at 02:11, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hmmm... is everyone else just on an old version or something?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>>
>> That is correct.
>>
>> Frank, K6FW
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/18 12:34 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>> You're on the 787 release then?
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> I run HRD Sat, SatPC32 and MacDoppler on my computer and all the AOS
>>> times match. I am running the latest release from September 2017 of
>>> HRD Sat.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> K6FW
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2/5/18 9:16 AM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As someone said previously, it's probably a math problem that got
>>>> buggered up somewhere along the way.
>>>>
>>>> We will get this fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Francis Geraci
>>>> <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed mention about issues with HRD Sat tracking. No
"specific"
>>>>> problems were mentioned I have used HRD for may years, and know
>>>>> it pretty well.
>>>>> After the last few "updates", an upcoming sat pass in HRD, the
>>>>> pass over my QTH, is about 5 - 10 minutes later.
>>>>> I, also run SatPC32 at the same time, along with pass predictions
>>>>> from other Web sites. All of the predictions agree, except for
>>>>> HRD, reporting the pass later. I have missed many passes using HRD.
>>>>> When I switched to SatPC32, I started hearing passes.
>>>>> My "keps" are current, QTH is correct, time is correct, and all
>>>>> the "personal" information is correct in the HRD Logbook. I am
"totally"
>>>>> stumped.
>>>>> Best toAll
>>>>> WB1FXX
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>> program!
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
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>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
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program!
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>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
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--
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:27:40 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Where is my Roadster?
Message-ID: <17e15fb8-6a83-71f8-ea9d-65818f056b32@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi folks,
I understand one can't use traditional "Keps" for objects in a Solar
orbit. How does one track the trans-asteroid belt Tesla Roadster, just
launched by SpaceX? Anybody know what they are using for a downlink?
Thanks,
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:55:03 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>, 'Amsat BB'
<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Where is my Roadster?
Message-ID: <88d24752-3c3b-a259-8a5a-e7216021690a@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Have all, except the income. My Roadster is safely in the garage, but
it's looking longingly skyward toward its cousin. Just wondering where
to point.
Greg KO6TH
p.s. (OT) It's FAR less expensive to own an EV these days, and oil
companies continue to get tax breaks that we all pay for, both from our
wallets and with our health...
Ted Krempa wrote:
> Greg, you need a $2k charging station in your garage, a tax credit (ie, the
> rest of us pay for your car) and a 6 figure income to track AOTesla...
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Greg D
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:28 PM
> To: Amsat BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Where is my Roadster?
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I understand one can't use traditional "Keps" for objects in a Solar orbit.
> How does one track the trans-asteroid belt Tesla Roadster, just launched by
> SpaceX? Anybody know what they are using for a downlink?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
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> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:40:01 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Greg D'" <ko6th.greg@?????.???>, "'Amsat BB'"
<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Where is my Roadster?
Message-ID: <007701d39fcd$b79bf600$26d3e200$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Greg, you need a $2k charging station in your garage, a tax credit (ie, the
rest of us pay for your car) and a 6 figure income to track AOTesla...
73, Ted
K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Greg D
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:28 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Where is my Roadster?
Hi folks,
I understand one can't use traditional "Keps" for objects in a Solar orbit.
How does one track the trans-asteroid belt Tesla Roadster, just launched by
SpaceX? Anybody know what they are using for a downlink?
Thanks,
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 06:21:07 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Amsat BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
Message-ID: <000201d3a00e$21f55970$65e00c50$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Great quote from Musk:
"I had this image of a giant explosion on the pad with a wheel bouncing down
the road with the Tesla logo landing somewhere," he said. "Fortunately that
is not what happened."
Perhaps not the most important event, but watching two rockets LAND in
formation like something out of a 1950s B movie was something I never
expected to see!
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 13:56:11 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Ray Hoad <ray.hoad@????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unknown new satellite MXSAT
Message-ID: <01283293-83fc-613e-f608-c9924d0fbd9a@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
All,
Object 43199 has apparently been identified as Shaonian Xing (Youth Sat).
So the unknown satellite that identifies itself as MXSAT-1 is actually the
student satellite Shaonian Xing. It also means this satellite does not
transmit
on its coordinated frequencies. Let's wait and see if its FM repeater
will be
activated and on which frequencies it will operate.
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=547
73,
Nico PA0DLO
On 03-02-18 16:48, Nico Janssen wrote:
> All,
>
> A new unknown satellite has appeared which has a downlink near
> 436.370 MHz with 9600 bps telemetry. In its telemetry transmissions
> it identifies itself as MXSAT. Doppler measurements show that this
> MXSAT is object 43199, 2018-015H.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 13:20:29 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: APBIDDLE@???????.???
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Launch Time
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On 2/7/18, Alan <wa4sca@?????.???> wrote:
> Great quote from Musk:
>
> "I had this image of a giant explosion on the pad with a wheel bouncing
> down
> the road with the Tesla logo landing somewhere," he said. "Fortunately that
> is not what happened."
>
> Perhaps not the most important event, but watching two rockets LAND in
> formation like something out of a 1950s B movie was something I never
> expected to see!
<snip.
I agree. That was an impressive sight, particularly since it appeared
that they both touched down at the same time.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:29:09 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unknown new satellite MXSAT
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As far as I know, there has been no actual confirmation from anyone
that "Shaonian Xing" is one of the 7 coordinated Juvenile series
satellites. It's all been supposition based on the name.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??> wrote:
> All,
>
> Object 43199 has apparently been identified as Shaonian Xing (Youth Sat).
> So the unknown satellite that identifies itself as MXSAT-1 is actually the
> student satellite Shaonian Xing. It also means this satellite does not
> transmit
> on its coordinated frequencies. Let's wait and see if its FM repeater will
> be
> activated and on which frequencies it will operate.
> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=547
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
>
> On 03-02-18 16:48, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> A new unknown satellite has appeared which has a downlink near
>> 436.370 MHz with 9600 bps telemetry. In its telemetry transmissions
>> it identifies itself as MXSAT. Doppler measurements show that this
>> MXSAT is object 43199, 2018-015H.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:08:23 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unknown new satellite MXSAT
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True, it could be another satellite. It's not easy to interpret the
limited information that has been published on this satellite,
like on this page:
https://gbtimes.com/china-launches-seismo-electromagnetic-probe-along-with-esa
-danish-and-commercial-cubesats
Unfortunately the Chinese supply only very limited information
on their satellites.
73,
Nico PA0DLO
On 07-02-18 14:29, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> As far as I know, there has been no actual confirmation from anyone
> that "Shaonian Xing" is one of the 7 coordinated Juvenile series
> satellites. It's all been supposition based on the name.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Object 43199 has apparently been identified as Shaonian Xing (Youth Sat).
>> So the unknown satellite that identifies itself as MXSAT-1 is actually the
>> student satellite Shaonian Xing. It also means this satellite does not
>> transmit
>> on its coordinated frequencies. Let's wait and see if its FM repeater will
>> be
>> activated and on which frequencies it will operate.
>> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=547
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03-02-18 16:48, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> A new unknown satellite has appeared which has a downlink near
>>> 436.370 MHz with 9600 bps telemetry. In its telemetry transmissions
>>> it identifies itself as MXSAT. Doppler measurements show that this
>>> MXSAT is object 43199, 2018-015H.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Nico PA0DLO
>>>
>>>
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