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Today's Topics:
1. Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz (f6htj@???.????
2. Re: Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz (John Brier)
3. Re: Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Roving Time (R.T.Liddy)
5. FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional version?
(christy hunter)
6. N8FQ Sat sked page (Joe N3XLS)
7. AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up) (Mr B r a d)
8. Re: Dedication to the hobby (Joe N3XLS)
9. Re: Dedication to the hobby (alex weimer)
10. Re: Late notice FO-29 0227Z and perhaps AO-92 (George Sakai)
11. Re: FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional version?
(Ted Krempa)
12. Re: N8FQ Sat sked page (davekn4ok@???.????
13. Re: AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up) (Paul Stoetzer)
14. Re: AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up)
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
15. Re: Fw: FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional version?
(Erich Eichmann)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:23:56 -0500
From: f6htj@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz
Message-ID: <161fc8e3ea7-c8f-17fe@???????????????.???.???????.???>
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Hello all; for information still reception of RS15 beacon when satellite is
in sunlight.
Signal peaking 529 on 28 MHz dipole antenna and GP vertical at low angle.
73 de Michel F6HTJ (JN12kq)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:17:41 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: f6htj@???.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz
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Somebody posted a video of a reception of it on the AMSAT-NA Facebook
group yesterday.
Is this new or has it been turning on while it's been in sunlight for a while?
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:23 PM, f6htj--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all; for information still reception of RS15 beacon when satellite
is in sunlight.
>
> Signal peaking 529 on 28 MHz dipole antenna and GP vertical at low angle.
> 73 de Michel F6HTJ (JN12kq)
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:28:05 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, f6htj@???.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reception of RS15 beacon 29.351 MHz
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The beacon has been active ever since the satellite was launched as far as
I can tell. The transponder never worked great (was hard to hear and took a
bit of power to get in to) and died after a few years.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:17 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> Somebody posted a video of a reception of it on the AMSAT-NA Facebook
> group yesterday.
>
> Is this new or has it been turning on while it's been in sunlight for a
> while?
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:23 PM, f6htj--- via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello all; for information still reception of RS15 beacon when satellite
> is in sunlight.
> >
> > Signal peaking 529 on 28 MHz dipole antenna and GP vertical at low angle.
> > 73 de Michel F6HTJ (JN12kq)
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:53:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Starcom <starcom-bb@????????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving Time
Message-ID: <962824369.11156336.1520369610164@????.?????.???>
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Gridders.... I'll be staying in EM32 for the next couple weeks
and operating "holiday style" while visiting Family. I can probably
work out going to adjacent Grids upon request. Besides LA, TX and
AR and OK are possibilities. QSOs will be in LoTW when I return
home the end of March.
73, Bob K8BL
P.S. I've been operating HF QRP FT8 for the past 2 weeks and it
has all the excitement of watching a turtle race. Just sayin'.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:29:44 -0800
From: christy hunter <cchunter3@??????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional
version?
Message-ID: <7db5b537-f23b-4d9f-48b0-706f1ad694f4@??????????.???>
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this link may be helpful also.
http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/page1.htm#serialnum
73
christy KB6LTY
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 19:34:39 -0500
From: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8FQ Sat sked page
Message-ID: <20180307003448.007E0879E@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
http://n8fq.org/sked/mobile.php?board=sat
Anyone use this page?? ?Or is there another one???
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 19:24:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up)
Message-ID: <472716490.11039312.1520364283905@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I think I heard the Ao-92 YL voice beacon very well and one guy working
AO-92L/v? with the 23cm/1.2g?uplink over the weekend , ( no one else to talk
to ) .... what ERP is needed for this mode?
?Could my ts2000x with 10 watts into a helix work for this ?
please delete original messages in your reply...Brad / ko6kL?
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:18:52 -0500
From: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>
To: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: n6ua@????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dedication to the hobby
Message-ID: <20180306201859.D5058892F@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thank you to Doug as well he called me yesterday on CAS-4B.
-------- Original message --------From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???> Date:
3/6/18 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb@?????.??? Cc: n6ua@????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dedication to the hobby
I just wanted to thank Doug? N6UA for his dedication to the hobby of Ham
radio... Doug made an out of the way trip to nebraska to confirm the state
for several of us who needed it for WAS LOTW. Doug fought 65 mph winds on
the way and during the qso on Cas-4B . At times the howling was so bad that
the audio was distorted , however Doug endured the elements and continued
confirming the Grid/state for many of us. On the return home Doug
encountered several semi accidents on I-25 . Thanks Doug for being so
dedicated as to go out of your in bad weather to give a new grid or state to
your fellow hams? JACK? KC7MG
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:39:39 -0700 (MST)
From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
To: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: n6ua@????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dedication to the hobby
Message-ID: <1510825500.11139.1520368779190@???????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Ok now we need him to work the sats aeronautical mobile !! NO Auto pilot !!
> On March 6, 2018 at 1:18 PM Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Thank you to Doug as well he called me yesterday on CAS-4B.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
> Date: 3/6/18 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Cc: n6ua@????.???
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Dedication to the hobby
>
> I just wanted to thank Doug N6UA for his dedication to the hobby of
Ham radio... Doug made an out of the way trip to nebraska to confirm the
state for several of us who needed it for WAS LOTW. Doug fought 65 mph winds
on the way and during the qso on Cas-4B . At times the howling was so bad
that the audio was distorted , however Doug endured the elements and
continued confirming the Grid/state for many of us. On the return home Doug
encountered several semi accidents on I-25 . Thanks Doug for being so
dedicated as to go out of your in bad weather to give a new grid or state to
your fellow hams JACK KC7MG
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:25:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Sakai <grsakai5120@?????.???>
To: Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Late notice FO-29 0227Z and perhaps AO-92
Message-ID: <1269503271.12133787.1520371525753@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Adrian,
I heard you calling CQ on AO-7? from Little Cayman on March 6, 2018 at 20:39
UTC.? I called you but did not hear your response.? Your signals were very
weak.
73, George N3GS, EM28Topeka, KS
On ?Monday?, ?March? ?5?, ?2018? ?05?:?53?:?41? ?PM? ?CST, Adrian Engele
via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Folks,
Made it to Little Cayman and had to contend with a Windows update at DSL
speed (like watching paint dry) which corrupted my Wi-Fi adapter. Got that
fixed now.
I will try to get on the FO-29 pass at 0227Z. Please note I am inland I have
some trees at AOS and LOS on my end. Against my better judgement I will try
to jump into AO-92 fray after the FO-29 pass.
I will be signing ZF2AE/ZF8, please use this call for LOTW from Little
Cayman.?? I will try to get on tomorrow afternoon and evening after diving
in the morning.
73, Adrian AA5UK ZF2AE/ZF8
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:59:52 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Erich Eichmann'" <erich.eichmann@????????.??>,
<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional
version?
Message-ID: <006601d3b5af$9a44c9e0$cece5da0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>From a prior posting:
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] FT-847 serial number investigation
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@???????>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:27:04 -0000
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.1011202104753.12708C-100000@???.??????.???>
Cliff,
>From a FAQ on the FT-847. Perhaps this will help.
-----------------------------------------------------
Serial Numbers
Updated 10Jan01
Yaesu appears to use the following format for serial numbers on their
amateur products:
Year of manufacture-Month of manufacture-Production Run-Individual Unit
number, where the month of manufacture is offset by 2, so "C" means January,
"D" means February, "E" means March, and so forth.
Example: 8G051234 = 1998, May (fifth month, or "G"), Production Run 05, unit
#1234 in this run.
One key serial number range is 8G05. This seems to be the point at which
Yaesu had corrected the bi-directional CAT issue and made some other
improvements. This version was made in May 1998. Later serial numbers (e.g.,
8L09nnnn) all seem to have incorporated the earlier improvements plus new
ones.
73, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Erich Eichmann
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:37 AM
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional version?
Hello,
Does somebody know whether one can recognize by the serial number of the
FT-847 whether it is an old, uni-directional or a newer, bi-directional
vrsion? A user here in Germany has two FT-847 with serial numbers 3M840064
and OE320084.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:10:28 -0500
From: davekn4ok@???.???
To: n3xls@?????.???? amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] N8FQ Sat sked page
Message-ID: <161fe026faa-179e-1b4de@?????????????.???.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Joe, looks like you and I lol
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2018 6:35 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8FQ Sat sked page
http://n8fq.org/sked/mobile.php?board=satAnyone use this page? Or is there
another one? _______________________________________________Sent via
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:03:19 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up)
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That should be more than enough.
It's been worked with as little as 1 watt to a whip. Try it out!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I think I heard the Ao-92 YL voice beacon very well and one guy working
> AO-92L/v with the 23cm/1.2g uplink over the weekend , ( no one else to
> talk to ) .... what ERP is needed for this mode?
> Could my ts2000x with 10 watts into a helix work for this ?
> please delete original messages in your reply...Brad / ko6kL
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 02:44:07 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@??????.???>
To: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>, AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v Activation Schedule ( 23cm up)
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUdp+vkOg9cuxv2Jt-+cynT06hbuXiJKqkrahCREQbdW9w@????.?????.???>
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Brad,
If you were listening last Sunday morning, I was the "one guy working
AO-92 L/v" you heard. Some of these western AO-92 L/V passes have
been lonely as you described, and one morning saw a station from Utah
join in. I have been able to use these passes to improve on my tuning
for the 1.2 GHz uplink. I'm getting better at that, along with practice
orienting my antenna to make my 1W transmitter power work in this
configuration.
The setup I used on Sunday morning was an Alinco DJ-G7T, transmitting
1W into a no-name Chinese-made 10-element Yagi. The Yagi is rated at
12 dBi gain. Using that figure, and factoring in the 20cm of coax
between the driven element and the N connector that goes to the radio,
my ERP with this antenna is around 9 to 10 watts. On other weekends,
I have been using a 5-element Yagi made by Comet in the 1990s rated at
11 dBi gain. If that's true, my ERP with that setup is around 7 to 8
watts when using the same DJ-G7T. And, as N8HM said, AO-92's L/V
configuration has been worked with a 1W HT & whip antenna - something
I have not yet been able to replicate.
If you can get on next Sunday with your setup, please join in. As you
heard, these passes are not crowded. Even if one or two others join in,
there is still enough time to experiment. In your case, that could be
seeing how low you can take your 10W transmitter power down and still
be heard.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I think I heard the Ao-92 YL voice beacon very well and one guy working
> AO-92L/v with the 23cm/1.2g uplink over the weekend , ( no one else to
> talk to ) .... what ERP is needed for this mode?
> Could my ts2000x with 10 watts into a helix work for this ?
> ?<snip>...Brad / ko6kL
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:07:16 +0100
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: FT-847, uni-directional or be-directional
version?
Message-ID: <b6cdbd3a-e437-a8df-37ba-82be4f4be1ed@????????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Many thanks to all who replied, very helpful answers.
73s, Erich, DK1tB
Am 06.03.2018 um 18:42 schrieb Kevin M:
> <link fix>
>
>
>
> Hello,Does somebody know whether one can recognize by the serial number of
the? FT-847 whether it is an old, uni-directional or a newer, bi-directional
vrsion? A user here in Germany has two FT-847 with serial
> numbers 3M840064 and OE320084.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> serial number info
link:http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/page1.htm#serialnum
>
>
> The FT-847 was first made in 1998 and the bi-directional problem was fixed
that first year... only serial numbers starting with 8C, 8D, 8E, and 8F
would be uni-directional.
>
> 73, Kevin N4UFO
>
>
>
>
>
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