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Today's Topics:
1. N4UFO (Joe N3XLS)
2. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders (R.T.Liddy)
3. Re: What happens when we reach AO-100? (Burns Fisher)
4. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
5. Re: Unattended FoxTelem Question (Burns Fisher)
6. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs (Jerry Buxton)
7. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs (John Geiger)
8. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs (Joe N3XLS)
9. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs (R.T.Liddy)
10. Re: idle comments - Idle SATs (Alan)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:59:28 -0400
From: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] N4UFO
Message-ID: <20180317170228.3E39C84BC@??????????.?????.???>
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I worked N4UFO on CAS-4B.? He is rovering around TN area today. In case
anyone needs those grids etc.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 18:21:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: JoAnne K9JKM <joanne.k9jkm@?????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders
Message-ID: <1741071379.2473869.1521310872542@????.?????.???>
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JoAnne,
Thanks for the kind words and support. Opposition usually
spurs me on to continue when I'm wrongfully attacked. It is
so sad in this day and age that a mere suggestion can cause
such rage from narrow-minded people/groups.
Actually, I feel the interest in Gridding has been a major
factor in the great amount of activity on SATs and the trigger
for many technological improvements in equipment, software and
techniques.
TNX & 73, Bob K8BL
________________________________
From: JoAnne K9JKM <joanne.k9jkm@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders
Hi Bob,
> You may get personally ATTACKED in direct e-mails
Yeah, sometimes there is a bit of boorish behavior, it seems more via the
internet than in direct conversations. I've shrugged off, or laughed off
some interesting replies over the years ...
When I reported in the ANS bulletins AMSAT-DL's success using their big dish
to accomplish the Earth-Venus-Earth path I received an e-mail from an
Official Observer citing me for promoting poor amateur radio practices. No
regular ham has a 20 meter dish and temporary authority to experiment with a
few kilowatts on S-band.
When I mentioned that ARISSat-1 was in a way a Russian satellite since it
had a Russian callsign, the experiment on board was by a Russian university,
it was deployed by Russian cosmonauts on a Russian EVA ... I was warned by
private e-mail that he was considering suing me if I kept promoting such
un-American thoughts like that.
A private e-mail informed me that AMSAT had been taken out of that
individual's will because of stuff I said.
I hear you on the satellites often. I spend most of my time tweaking my
telemetry reception but I still hear the voice traffic ... you keep handing
out the grids :-) Since telemetry doesn't count for Field Day I'll be
switching over to voice on the linear sats so there goes the neighborhood
for sure!
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:25:01 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: wa6ilt@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What happens when we reach AO-100?
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I'm pretty sure the the standard TLE has 12 characters for the name. In
any case, there are things like FalconSat which MacDoppler and SatPC32
already track with no problem. So I'd guess that AO-100 would not be an
issue.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 8:34 AM, David Reinhart <wa6ilt@???????.???> wrote:
> Hi. I've been more of a lurker these days, so excuse me if this has been
> brought up before. Can the tracking programs we commonly use handle
> satellites with three digit designations? Or are we going to run into a
> Y2K sort of situation?
>
> 73,
>
> Dave
> WA6ILT
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:26:40 -0500
From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" <aa5pk@??????????.???>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>, "Don KB2YSI" <kb2ysi@?????.???>,
"Mike Diehl" <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders
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The best part is "...my linear sats...". What an asshat.
-----Original Message-----
From: R.T.Liddy
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:52 AM
To: Don KB2YSI ; Mike Diehl
Cc: amsat-bb ; Paul Stoetzer
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs/Gridders
Don,
Be careful about making suggestions about increasing activity on the
Linear SATs! You may get personally ATTACKED in direct e-mails like
I did. There are people out there that hate Gridders and feel the Linear
SATs are to be held aside so they can have them to themselves for having
chats with each other day after day.
I won't reveal the gentleman's ID, but you can read excerpts of some of
the e-mails that came to me directly for merely suggesting something to
increase activity on his private Linear SATs. Or, save your blood pressure
and skip his comments below. (So much hate!)
73, Bob K8BL
---------------------------------------------------------------
I don?t care what other hams do. Each have their own preferences,.. What I
don?t like is
someone coming up with a great ?idea? to get more activity on what is now an
enjoyable
aspect of the hobby that I enjoy. I have to put up with nonsense contests
every weekend
on HF but I can go to WARC bands to get away from it. Don?t be looking to
crap up my
linear sats and turn them into the mess that?s on the FM sats. Its
disgraceful what goes
on there. Honestly I don?t think it will come to that since people have to
use more that
a pair of $25 boufangs and an arrow to get on linear sats.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:27:14 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unattended FoxTelem Question
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Good point, Roy. I'm working on a similar thing with Chris (FoxTelem
author), so I'll ask. Not sure if he watches this BB.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???> wrote:
> Does FoxTelem automatically check for new Keps periodically, or only upon
> startup? I have an unattended station running on a Raspberry Pi, and I'm
> wondering if I shouldn't close and restart FoxTelem every couple of weeks
> to refresh TLE's. Scrolled through the command terminal and didn't see
> any updates occuring, but you can see keps being updated upon startup.
>
> -Roy
> K3RLD
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:13:49 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
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It is a fact that I get on the birds infrequently, often it's a timing
issue of when I have free time vs. what is going to pass during that time.
Taking that into account as you are reading this, the last couple or
three times I was on a linear bird which would have been 1H 2017 to my
recollection, nobody wanted to have a rag-chew or even a short
weather/shack/shoe-size QSO.? Grid exchange was it.? Honestly, I don't
care about grids or awards although I will work some when they are out
in the rare spots on the FM birds if the timeslot fits just to have them
in the log in case I change my mind some year (love that you can just do
that with ham radio, change your interest/tactics any given day).
So I haven't tried so much to get on a linear pass after that, it wasn't
what I was looking for.? CQ for the whole pass to exchange grids three
or four times.
This is not an editorial on what current op trends are, just my two
cents worth on the subject.? Maybe I hit the birds during a lull in
rag-chew interest.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 3/15/2018 22:06, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> I admit that the launches of AO-91 and 92 have reduced my linear
> operating time. As much as I enjoy operating on the linear sats,
> operating portable as I do, I'm not going to be able to operate every
> pass. I have made fewer than two dozen linear sat QSOs this year.
>
> Perhaps some linear satellite operating days are in order where
> everyone decides to work as many passes of the XWs as possible or
> CAS-4B or UKube-1 or something. FO-29 and AO-7 do seem to draw a
> decent amount of activity still.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@?????????.???> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I've been roving the past couple weeks and operating
>> from several uncommon Grids/Gridlines and usually find no one or only
>> one on the Linear SATs. Does that make me want to drive to some odd
>> place and set up to rarely make a QSO? People shouldn't worry abt
>> being exactly zero-beat, if that puts them off. Just get close & we'll
>> find you. If people keep avoiding them, eventually no one will bother
>> using them, period. Maybe, the "Easy SATs" are so easy that folks don't
>> bother with the others.
>> 73, Bob K8BL /4/5/9
>> ________________________________
>> From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments
>>
>>
>>
>> Its not too many satellites, not enough ops!
>> -------- Original message --------From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
Date: 3/15/18 6:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] idle comments
>> Hello from Seattle
>>
>> I read the bb almost thoroughly throughout the day. A small common
denominator is subtly appearing. I read, "I was on the bird all alone", or
something like, "no one to talk to". The unusual conclusion, we have too
many satellites! I never thought this ham would even think of it. If I
look at Satpc32 with "only" a dozen listed, in fast forward a bewildering
barrage of circles floats across the screen. I am not saying this is a bad
thing, it just spreads us out and at times, there is, "no one to talk to".
I do testing like try different power levels, talk to myself til as close to
AOS as I can get. You know the drill. From what I read there are more on
the starting block. I'd like to see more L band time, maybe a bird with a
S band DL a MEO, a HEO- I know, idle comments. We have the five & dime
coming at us, which sounds like a whole other world, I'm looking forward to
it. Then there is the massive off air time making all this stuff work.
Currently testing between tw
o
> L
>> band antennas and between two different 70cm antennas. At this time I
have my Satpc32 talking fine with the radio but not with the rotor. A com
port issue which currently I can not figure out. Assistance solicited. On
the ISS it would be fun to see one of the "hams" up there have that
"burning in the belly" to yuck it up, get WAS, VUCC, DXCC or whatever.
Again, just idle comments not a criticism of the ARISS system. Sunny day in
Seattle, xyl says yard work.
>>
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>
>> Seattle
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:18:35 -0500
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
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Now I have had some nice ragchews on FO29 the past couple of days. There
seems to be a group from W6 land that get on their quite reqularly and QSO
with each other.
73 John AF5CC
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???> wrote:
> It is a fact that I get on the birds infrequently, often it's a timing
> issue of when I have free time vs. what is going to pass during that time.
> Taking that into account as you are reading this, the last couple or
> three times I was on a linear bird which would have been 1H 2017 to my
> recollection, nobody wanted to have a rag-chew or even a short
> weather/shack/shoe-size QSO. Grid exchange was it. Honestly, I don't
> care about grids or awards although I will work some when they are out
> in the rare spots on the FM birds if the timeslot fits just to have them
> in the log in case I change my mind some year (love that you can just do
> that with ham radio, change your interest/tactics any given day).
> So I haven't tried so much to get on a linear pass after that, it wasn't
> what I was looking for. CQ for the whole pass to exchange grids three
> or four times.
> This is not an editorial on what current op trends are, just my two
> cents worth on the subject. Maybe I hit the birds during a lull in
> rag-chew interest.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 3/15/2018 22:06, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> > I admit that the launches of AO-91 and 92 have reduced my linear
> > operating time. As much as I enjoy operating on the linear sats,
> > operating portable as I do, I'm not going to be able to operate every
> > pass. I have made fewer than two dozen linear sat QSOs this year.
> >
> > Perhaps some linear satellite operating days are in order where
> > everyone decides to work as many passes of the XWs as possible or
> > CAS-4B or UKube-1 or something. FO-29 and AO-7 do seem to draw a
> > decent amount of activity still.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@?????????.???> wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, I've been roving the past couple weeks and operating
> >> from several uncommon Grids/Gridlines and usually find no one or only
> >> one on the Linear SATs. Does that make me want to drive to some odd
> >> place and set up to rarely make a QSO? People shouldn't worry abt
> >> being exactly zero-beat, if that puts them off. Just get close & we'll
> >> find you. If people keep avoiding them, eventually no one will bother
> >> using them, period. Maybe, the "Easy SATs" are so easy that folks don't
> >> bother with the others.
> >> 73, Bob K8BL /4/5/9
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >> To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Its not too many satellites, not enough ops!
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
> Date: 3/15/18 6:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] idle comments
> >> Hello from Seattle
> >>
> >> I read the bb almost thoroughly throughout the day. A small common
> denominator is subtly appearing. I read, "I was on the bird all alone",
> or something like, "no one to talk to". The unusual conclusion, we have
> too many satellites! I never thought this ham would even think of it. If
> I look at Satpc32 with "only" a dozen listed, in fast forward a bewildering
> barrage of circles floats across the screen. I am not saying this is a bad
> thing, it just spreads us out and at times, there is, "no one to talk to".
> I do testing like try different power levels, talk to myself til as close
> to AOS as I can get. You know the drill. From what I read there are more
> on the starting block. I'd like to see more L band time, maybe a bird
> with a S band DL a MEO, a HEO- I know, idle comments. We have the five &
> dime coming at us, which sounds like a whole other world, I'm looking
> forward to it. Then there is the massive off air time making all this
> stuff work. Currently testing between two
> > L
> >> band antennas and between two different 70cm antennas. At this time
> I have my Satpc32 talking fine with the radio but not with the rotor. A
> com port issue which currently I can not figure out. Assistance
> solicited. On the ISS it would be fun to see one of the "hams" up there
> have that "burning in the belly" to yuck it up, get WAS, VUCC, DXCC or
> whatever. Again, just idle comments not a criticism of the ARISS system.
> Sunny day in Seattle, xyl says yard work.
> >>
> >> 73 Bob W7LRD
> >>
> >> Seattle
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:37:14 -0400
From: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>
To: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
Message-ID: <20180317193720.3A149856A@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Sign of the times! Younger hams, like me, like the thrill of the chase.? Im
going to quote a young teenager that wanted to know what ham radio was about
and i told them about chasing DX. Grids, counties,states etc.? I got the
comment of its like the app?Pokemon Go then?
EXACTLY!
There is still room for ragchewing. If thats what someone wants to do. I
honestly admire some of the guys who can hold the pass and have a ragchew
qso.? ?My setup isnt great.? I can hold some very well, others not so much.
Of course im tracking everything manually. Labor of love in the moment!
-------- Original message --------From: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???> Date:
3/17/18 3:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???> Cc:
amsat-bb@?????.??? Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
Now I have had some nice ragchews on FO29 the past couple of days.? There
seems to be a group from W6 land that get on their quite reqularly and QSO
with each other.
73 John AF5CC
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???> wrote:
> It is a fact that I get on the birds infrequently, often it's a timing
> issue of when I have free time vs. what is going to pass during that time.
> Taking that into account as you are reading this, the last couple or
> three times I was on a linear bird which would have been 1H 2017 to my
> recollection, nobody wanted to have a rag-chew or even a short
> weather/shack/shoe-size QSO.? Grid exchange was it.? Honestly, I don't
> care about grids or awards although I will work some when they are out
> in the rare spots on the FM birds if the timeslot fits just to have them
> in the log in case I change my mind some year (love that you can just do
> that with ham radio, change your interest/tactics any given day).
> So I haven't tried so much to get on a linear pass after that, it wasn't
> what I was looking for.? CQ for the whole pass to exchange grids three
> or four times.
> This is not an editorial on what current op trends are, just my two
> cents worth on the subject.? Maybe I hit the birds during a lull in
> rag-chew interest.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 3/15/2018 22:06, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> > I admit that the launches of AO-91 and 92 have reduced my linear
> > operating time. As much as I enjoy operating on the linear sats,
> > operating portable as I do, I'm not going to be able to operate every
> > pass. I have made fewer than two dozen linear sat QSOs this year.
> >
> > Perhaps some linear satellite operating days are in order where
> > everyone decides to work as many passes of the XWs as possible or
> > CAS-4B or UKube-1 or something. FO-29 and AO-7 do seem to draw a
> > decent amount of activity still.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@?????????.???> wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, I've been roving the past couple weeks and operating
> >> from several uncommon Grids/Gridlines and usually find no one or only
> >> one on the Linear SATs. Does that make me want to drive to some odd
> >> place and set up to rarely make a QSO? People shouldn't worry abt
> >> being exactly zero-beat, if that puts them off. Just get close & we'll
> >> find you. If people keep avoiding them, eventually no one will bother
> >> using them, period. Maybe, the "Easy SATs" are so easy that folks don't
> >> bother with the others.
> >> 73,??? Bob? K8BL? /4/5/9
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >> To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Its not too many satellites,? not enough ops!
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
> Date: 3/15/18? 6:23 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] idle comments
> >> Hello from Seattle
> >>
> >> I read the bb almost thoroughly throughout the day.? A small common
> denominator is subtly appearing.? I read, "I was on the bird all alone",
> or something like, "no one to talk to".? The unusual conclusion, we have
> too many satellites!? I never thought this ham would even think of it.? If
> I look at Satpc32 with "only" a dozen listed, in fast forward a bewildering
> barrage of circles floats across the screen.? I am not saying this is a bad
> thing, it just spreads us out and at times, there is, "no one to talk to".
> I do testing like try different power levels, talk to myself til as close
> to AOS as I can get.? You know the drill.? From what I read there are more
> on the starting block.? I'd like to see more L band time,? maybe a bird
> with a S band DL a MEO, a HEO- I know, idle comments.? We have the five &
> dime coming at us, which sounds like a whole other world, I'm looking
> forward to it.? Then there is the massive off air time making all this
> stuff work.? Currently testing between two
> >?? L
> >>?? band antennas and between two different 70cm antennas.? At this time
> I have my Satpc32 talking fine with the radio but not with the rotor.? A
> com port issue which currently I can not figure out.? Assistance
> solicited.?? On the ISS it would be fun to see one of the "hams"? up there
> have that "burning in the belly"? to yuck it up, get? WAS, VUCC, DXCC or
> whatever.? Again, just idle comments not a criticism of the ARISS system.
> Sunny day in Seattle, xyl says yard work.
> >>
> >> 73 Bob W7LRD
> >>
> >> Seattle
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:39:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
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What's so nice about the Linear SATs is that there
is quite enough bandwidth for various interests to
coexist and enjoy their desired activity. Fun for all!
Bob K8BL
________________________________
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
It is a fact that I get on the birds infrequently, often it's a timing
issue of when I have free time vs. what is going to pass during that time.
Taking that into account as you are reading this, the last couple or
three times I was on a linear bird which would have been 1H 2017 to my
recollection, nobody wanted to have a rag-chew or even a short
weather/shack/shoe-size QSO. Grid exchange was it. Honestly, I don't
care about grids or awards although I will work some when they are out
in the rare spots on the FM birds if the timeslot fits just to have them
in the log in case I change my mind some year (love that you can just do
that with ham radio, change your interest/tactics any given day).
So I haven't tried so much to get on a linear pass after that, it wasn't
what I was looking for. CQ for the whole pass to exchange grids three
or four times.
This is not an editorial on what current op trends are, just my two
cents worth on the subject. Maybe I hit the birds during a lull in
rag-chew interest.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:54:39 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Jerry Buxton'" <n0jy@?????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
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Jerry,
Back in the AO-10, AO-13, and AO-40 days when passes lasted hours, it was
nice to be able to talk for 20-30 minutes with someone and get to know them.
When the P3 Promised Orbit arrives, we may need to brush up on the art of
conversation by working 20m or the local repeater.
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Jerry
<Buxton
<Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 14:14 PM
<To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments - Idle SATs
<
<It is a fact that I get on the birds infrequently, often it's a timing
<issue of when I have free time vs. what is going to pass during that time.
<Taking that into account as you are reading this, the last couple or
<three times I was on a linear bird which would have been 1H 2017 to my
<recollection, nobody wanted to have a rag-chew or even a short
<weather/shack/shoe-size QSO. Grid exchange was it. Honestly, I don't
<care about grids or awards although I will work some when they are out
<in the rare spots on the FM birds if the timeslot fits just to have them
<in the log in case I change my mind some year (love that you can just do
<that with ham radio, change your interest/tactics any given day).
<So I haven't tried so much to get on a linear pass after that, it wasn't
<what I was looking for. CQ for the whole pass to exchange grids three
<or four times.
<This is not an editorial on what current op trends are, just my two
<cents worth on the subject. Maybe I hit the birds during a lull in
<rag-chew interest.
<
<Jerry Buxton, N?JY
<
<On 3/15/2018 22:06, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
<> I admit that the launches of AO-91 and 92 have reduced my linear
<> operating time. As much as I enjoy operating on the linear sats,
<> operating portable as I do, I'm not going to be able to operate every
<> pass. I have made fewer than two dozen linear sat QSOs this year.
<>
<> Perhaps some linear satellite operating days are in order where
<> everyone decides to work as many passes of the XWs as possible or
<> CAS-4B or UKube-1 or something. FO-29 and AO-7 do seem to draw a
<> decent amount of activity still.
<>
<> 73,
<>
<> Paul, N8HM
<>
<> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@?????????.???> wrote:
<>> Unfortunately, I've been roving the past couple weeks and operating
<>> from several uncommon Grids/Gridlines and usually find no one or only
<>> one on the Linear SATs. Does that make me want to drive to some odd
<>> place and set up to rarely make a QSO? People shouldn't worry abt
<>> being exactly zero-beat, if that puts them off. Just get close & we'll
<>> find you. If people keep avoiding them, eventually no one will bother
<>> using them, period. Maybe, the "Easy SATs" are so easy that folks don't
<>> bother with the others.
<>> 73, Bob K8BL /4/5/9
<>> ________________________________
<>> From: Joe N3XLS via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<>> To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:43 PM
<>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] idle comments
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Its not too many satellites, not enough ops!
<>> -------- Original message --------From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
<Date: 3/15/18 6:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<Subject: [amsat-bb] idle comments
<>> Hello from Seattle
<>>
<>> I read the bb almost thoroughly throughout the day. A small common
<denominator is subtly appearing. I read, "I was on the bird all alone", or
<something like, "no one to talk to". The unusual conclusion, we have too
<many satellites! I never thought this ham would even think of it. If I
look at
<Satpc32 with "only" a dozen listed, in fast forward a bewildering barrage of
<circles floats across the screen. I am not saying this is a bad thing, it
just
<spreads us out and at times, there is, "no one to talk to". I do testing
like try
<different power levels, talk to myself til as close to AOS as I can get.
You know
<the drill. From what I read there are more on the starting block. I'd
like to see
<more L band time, maybe a bird with a S band DL a MEO, a HEO- I know, idle
<comments. We have the five & dime coming at us, which sounds like a whole
<other world, I'm looking forward to it. Then there is the massive off air
time
<making all this stuff work. Currently testing between two
<> L
<>> band antennas and between two different 70cm antennas. At this time I
<have my Satpc32 talking fine with the radio but not with the rotor. A com
port
<issue which currently I can not figure out. Assistance solicited. On the
ISS it
<would be fun to see one of the "hams" up there have that "burning in the
<belly" to yuck it up, get WAS, VUCC, DXCC or whatever. Again, just idle
<comments not a criticism of the ARISS system. Sunny day in Seattle, xyl says
<yard work.
<>>
<>> 73 Bob W7LRD
<>>
<>> Seattle
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<>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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<AMSAT-NA.
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