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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Antenna Polarization Question (Jean Marc Momple)
2. Nova for windows and Picsat (IW1DTU Fer)
3. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Scott)
4. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Ferruccio Andrea Paglia)
5. Nova for windows and Picsat (Perry Yantis)
6. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Jean-Pierre Godet)
7. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Fer)
8. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Scott)
9. Re: Satellite tracking API (Don KB2YSI)
10. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (Claudio Ariotti - IK1SLD)
11. Re: weekly nets / live chat ? (Sterling Coffey)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:04:50 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Wendy and Terry Osborne <wandtosborne@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???? Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Question
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Terry,
I tend to agree with all you mentioned, but there is much more:
1) First, what I wanted to say is that there is not ideal solution for all
birds due to the different variables for each bird, such as spinning rate,
direction of spinning and antenna placement, type of antenna, Tx power etc?
If all parameters not known and without these information it is difficult to
calculate the path budget and/or design the best setup for the ground station.
2) I also confirm multi-path is an issue and a good example to illustrate,
it is an issue particularly at low angle, more over the sea and at higher
frequency it is easily observed, this is well experienced here e.g. AO-92 on
L-mode has quite deep fading on the uplink at low angle as compare with same
situation on the U/V mode (we are in an small Island and surrounded by sea).
3) How I know that it is on the uplink? It is very simple, the fading is on
my voice transmission fade deeply while at the same moment telemetry is
received rock solid no difference in signal strength. This an example how
observation may help to determine what is the real issue. This is why I
advices to Burns to try and he will surely have a better understanding and
may experience for himself.
4) There is many techniques well known to correct multi-path fading (keeping
this issue as example) such as space diversity etc.. however this complicate
the whole installation and not really worth for a HAM station/our purpose.
More one can even analyze (with proper test equipment/software) the downlink
signal and determine what would be the best polarization for uplink,
automate the station, etc? I guess going that way will be a long technical
debate beyond the scope of actual discussion.
5) I have take one example, the other variables mentioned such as
reflection, obstacles such as trees/buildings etc.. also causing QSB, which
are unique to each ground stations, there are also solutions, one should be
aware of its own environment and adapt its station design to mitigate same.
In a nutshell/ my conclusion/ advice on the RHCP/LHCP issue: to operate the
birds for HAM purpose the simplest way is just to have polarization relays
on both uplink and downlink antennas, then manually switch polarization as
required depending on the fading, which has quite different patterns
depending on the bird and their trajectory, after some time an practice it
becomes natural and you push the button without even thinking. I do so all
the time during Sat. passes.
Same conclusion as yours.
Hope this help all.
73
Jean Marc
> On Mar 20, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Wendy and Terry Osborne
<wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi Burns, Jean Marc and Satellite Fans,
>
> Here is my explanation of why Antenna Polarisation varies:
> If the satellite is transmitting random linear polarisation then a CP
antenna should pick up most of the signal,
> however remember that a CP antenna uses phasing between the Vertical and
Horizontal antennas to determine
> the sense (RHCP or LHCP) of the circular polarisation.
> If you consider the satellite to also have Vertical and Horizontal
components to its polarisation then how these
> components change in phase when passing through the ionosphere determines
whether RHCP or LHCP will work better.
>
> In addition there is the problem of reflections (ground and adjacent
objects) with the receiving antenna.
> You can see this by looking a plots of the Vertical radiation pattern of
antennas at various heights.
> At the low heights of typical satellite antennas any Horizontal component
of the received signal will vary
> depending on the elevation angle of the satellite. Any Vertical component
will be pretty constant.
> As an example AO-91 seems to work better with Vertical polarisation at low
elevation angles and changes to
> Horizontal at high elevation angles (height above ground 1.5 metres).
>
> So a satellite receiving antenna needs to be able to vary the polarisation
to be able to avoid fading at some elevation angles.
>
> 73,
> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Burns Fisher
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:33 AM
> To: Jean Marc Momple
> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Question
>
> I'd really like to understand this better, but it is still not making sense
> to me. I believe that if you are transmitting with a CP antenna, the E and
> M waves actually go through an entire circle in one carrier cycle and a CP
> antenna is able to "follow" that. Surely a satellite is not spinning at
> anywhere close to 145 or 450 million revs per second, so I don't get
> "spinning satellite" as an explanation for why an LHP or RHP antenna might
> work better at different times.
>
> What I do get is that a CP antenna can receive linearly polarized waves at
> any angle equally. But this should be true whether the antenna is LHP or
> RHP, and I would not think which direction should matter if the signal is
> linear in the first place, even if the signal is spinning slowly.
>
> That all said, I have definitely heard people say that they can get better
> reception by changing from LHP to RHP. I'm not saying this is not true.
> Just that I don't understand it.
>
> 73,
>
> Burns WB1FJ
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Jean Marc Momple <
> jean.marc.momple@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Long debate for not much. I have followed this stream and believe that I
>> need to intervene.
>>
>> It is very simple, most HAM birds does spin (sometimes a lot) and there is
>> no way one can anticipate as different from one bird to others. It is just
>> operator skills (on the spot) to determine/switch from LHCP or RCCP based
>> on what is the best received signal strength. It works both on the Uplink
>> and Downlink. There is no miracle formulae and it is a just operator skills
>> as mentioned before.
>>
>> For commercial birds it is totally different game and should not be
>> compared with our humble Ham birds, they have much more means to do things
>> that we cannot afford to do, except if all HAM worldwide donate to AMSAT,
>> say $10 we then may be able to match some of the features commercially
>> available.
>>
>> Just a suggestion and food for thought.
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Franklin Antonio <antonio@???.????????.???>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > When you say a satellite "has" RHCP, we have to be careful that we're
>> communicating clearly about what "has" means. Every satellite "has" both,
>> by virtue of he way antennas work.
>> >
>> > I suspect that you mean that the satellite has an antenna which
>> transmits RHCP in its main lobe. It is important to realize that the
>> signal from such an antenna is only RHCP in its main lobe. The sidelobes
>> are gonna be LHCP. In between, you can get anything in between. So if a
>> satellite is oriented so that its antenna points right at you, and they
>> designed it to be RHCP, then that's what you're gonna get, but if it is
>> pointing off to the side, then you get something else.
>> >
>> > This means that there are situations in which you might get a stronger
>> received signal if you switch to LHCP, or maybe even to linear. In the
>> commercial satellite biz, they design satellites so that their antennas
>> point at the users. Hams build cheaper satellites, which typically don't
>> have sophisticated attitude control, so sometimes they point away from
>> you. Also, hams try to use the things even when conditions aren't the
>> best. If that's your aim, then most folks have found that polarization
>> switching sometimes helps.
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Jordan Trewitt
>> <jmtrewitt@?????.???>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 2:43 PM
>> > To: Eduardo PY2RN
>> > Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
>> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Question
>> >
>> > Maybe I'm not understanding it, but why does one need to switch between
>> > both, unless a particular satellite has LHCP or RHCP?
>> > Jordan
>> > KF5COQ
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 16:34 Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn@????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Brian,
>> >> Both. You are going to need to switch between RHCP and LHCP often
>> during a
>> >> sat pass. The same happens if using linear polarization (V/H) but in
>> this
>> >> case the switch between V and H will happen much more often than in CP.
>> >> 73
>> >> Ed
>> >> PY2RN
>> >>
>> >> From: Brian via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> >> To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 6:21 PM
>> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Should I be using LHCP or RHCP when setting up the 2 meter and 440
>> yagi's
>> >> to work the LEO's.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >>
>> >> Brian, KG8CO
>> >>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:07:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: IW1DTU Fer <heliox694-iw1dtu@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <1475105206.4023328.1521562027568@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows** but I
can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:42:40 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnObzjrAMFJ9VvDiF0HrZhwxMx7zMdRGzPA0C0c7-bZAZvw@????.?????.???>
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Hello!
It's listed in:
https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
... as well as the source I use:
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
73!
-Scott, K4KDR
=======================
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132, using **Nova for windows** but I
> can't find this bird in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
> Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:19:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ferruccio Andrea Paglia <ferruccio.paglia@?????.???>
To: IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <1526987670.4034613.1521562740841@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I mean in **automatic way**, not downloading nasabare.txt and than importing
manually in Nova
Fer IW1DTU On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 4:14:18 PM GMT, IW1DTU Fer via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows** but I
can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:27:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Perry Yantis <py41@???.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <1099666735.2718490.1521563276331@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
picsat elements are in nasabare at the?amsat page.PICSAT
1 43132U 18004X 18074.71729050 .00001602 00000-0 72461-4 0 9990
2 43132 97.5454 137.1063 0011584 69.8513 290.3968 15.22363041 9497?Perry
WB8OTH
py41@???.???
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:03:44 +0000
From: Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj@???????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <eb037b95-c121-754a-520e-8b1e58440d09@???????.??>
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Hi Fer,
You can find, in the Celestrak data bases, the PicSat bird cat number
43132 under "Space & Earth Science" directory :
https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
By the way, looks like all my attemps to send telemetry data to the
PicSat server with "upload your data" are failing though the same frames
are accepted by "fast upload beacon". I tried with and without kiss
beacons, with end of lines Unix like (LF) and with Windows/DOS end of
lines (CR/LF) in vain. All my telemetry frames are redirected >
/dev/null 2>&1. :-)
Ciao Fer, enjoy listening to PicSat, 73+++ !
Jean-Pierre F5YG
On 20/03/2018 16:07, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows** but I
can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
> Fer IW1DTU
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:20:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fer <mhz4464@?????.???>
To: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <1667069652.4254912.1521577223896@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Thanks Scott, any chance to add
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
to NOVA kep element internet update?
73 Fer IW1DTU On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 4:43:55 PM GMT, Scott
<scott23192@?????.???> wrote:
Hello!
It's listed in:
https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
... as well as the source I use:
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
73!
-Scott,? K4KDR
=======================
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows** but I
> can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
> Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:25:36 -0400
From: "Scott" <scott23192@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <DF5818C0F9DE49CFA30B1CEFC0028DC7@???????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Sorry, not familiar with the NOVA software.
Many other apps allow you to specify the source URL for TLE?s... perhaps
someone can direct you to where this is done in NOVA.
==========================================
From: Fer
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:20 PM
To: Scott ; AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Thanks Scott, any chance to add
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
to NOVA kep element internet update?
73 Fer IW1DTU
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 4:43:55 PM GMT, Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
wrote:
Hello!
It's listed in:
https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
... as well as the source I use:
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
73!
-Scott, K4KDR
=======================
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132, using **Nova for windows** but I
> can't find this bird in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
> Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:28:38 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Ciprian Sufitchi <ciprian@????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking API
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8O5BNs6eghrFfB95qe195bcCiaw7ZP5fK4U_k66=LH0=w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Wow Chip, that is quite the service.
Thank you for your time and support to the community!
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Ciprian Sufitchi <ciprian@????????.???>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Those a bit more comfortable with programming can use the REST API recently
> released at n2yo.com:
> https://www.n2yo.com/api/
> Probably the most useful transactions for amateur radio operating via
> satellites are:
> Get TLE
> Get radio passes
>
> Any suggestions and comments are welcome.
>
> Thanks!
> 73s de Chip N2YO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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--
73, Don KB2YSI
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 00:16:36 +0100
From: Claudio Ariotti - IK1SLD <claudio@???????.???>
To: Fer <mhz4464@?????.???>
Cc: Fer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <d88566bf-f35d-4f3e-a7e2-d2c75bf787db@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Fer,
you can change It under Kep. Elements - Internet Update - Configure Download
Under HTTP change Remote URL to www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl and under Remote? files
add kepler/mykepler.txt
And flag only this new line.
Nova isn't more updated by the author so no other change are available.
Nova for Windows now is free.
?73' de Claudio IK1SLD
Inviato da Blue ?
Il giorno 20 mar 2018, 21:21, alle ore 21:21, Fer via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> ha scritto:
> Thanks Scott, any chance to add
>http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
>
>to NOVA kep element internet update?
>73 Fer IW1DTU On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 4:43:55 PM GMT, Scott
><scott23192@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
>It's listed in:
>
>https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
>
>... as well as the source I use:
>
>http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
>
>
>73!
>
>-Scott,? K4KDR
>
>
>=======================
>
>On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB <
>amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows**
>but I
>> can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack.
>Any idea?
>> Fer IW1DTU
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:56:58 -0500
From: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>
To: Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Cc: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>, AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
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Does anyone have interest in a slack workspace or similar style of hosted
persistent chat? I know not a lot of hams have adopted the paradigm shift
in chatops. Most of my chats are shifting from IRC to Discord and Slack.
It's incredibly convenient to have an always on connection, be able to send
and receive notifications, and send images and have a searchable chat log
for almost all of time, plus all on mobile at zero cost.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
> Hi Patrick, pls consider moving the D* net to a weekday, especially with
> summer coming up. Sundays usually involve a lot of family stuff or maybe
> traveling home from a weekend trip.
>
> Thank you, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Patrick
> STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:26 PM
> To: Mr B r a d; AMSAT
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
>
> Hi, Brad!
>
> As I mentioned last night, I did not come up with the idea of a
> D-Star get-together focused on satellite stuff. Others have
> talked about creating - or relaunching - a talkgroup for this
> sort of discussion in the DMR realm. AMSAT operates an EchoLink
> conference server, which has been used for similar nets in the
> past. There's the HF net, if it is still operating (no HF at
> home presently, so I can't speak to that). Lots of options to
> do something online.
>
> What I seem to be hearing has a common theme... "AMSAT should
> do (some sort of chat, get-together, or net) on (radio, EchoLink,
> or something online)". If someone is interested in doing this
> on EchoLink, DMR, or some other mechanism - great! Do it!
> Announce it here, on Twitter, Facebook, spread the word. It
> doesn't have to be "official", but usually requires someone
> to be the cat-herder-in-chief or ringleader for whatever is
> proposed. The D-Star roundtable I mentioned has not had dozens
> of check-ins on any given Sunday evening, but has had good
> discussions and question-and-answer sessions. If something is
> done on DMR, I don't have DMR capabilities - but it doesn't
> hurt if we have these sorts of roundtables or chats in different
> places. The D-Star roundtable has drawn in some local Arizona
> interest, given that the reflector we have been using is
> normally tied into several D-Star repeaters around the
> Phoenix and Tucson areas, along with other repeaters that
> may be connected to the reflector just for the roundtables.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???
> > wrote:
>
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > """ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK" .....from the last dispatch of messages
> > ....Re: trying to get back to the Sunday evening AMSAT roundtable """"
> > I Guess that is on d-star ?? this would be great to listen in on from a
> > new Op perspective .....
> > I have been looking for a Sat IRC or Sat-Op chat room or something like
> > "ping jockey" toget get some quick answers to operating questions and
> line
> > up some QSO's and have not found anything for this. even a HF or
> echo-link
> > net could be helpful.this could also solve the ' no one else was on the
> > bird' problem.
> > sticking my neck out here , but I could host it on my valleymedia.org
> > domain withone of the free chat room scripts if nothing more official or
> > better is out here or offered?
> > one link on the 'easy sats' / work-sats page would fuel the live sat-chat
> > room very nicely
> >
> > new guy Ko6kLBrad
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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