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Today's Topics:
1. Jeffrey Richmond ? (Roy)
2. Re: Nova for windows and Picsat (IW1DTU Fer)
3. Re: weekly nets / live chat ? (Brad Brooks)
4. Re: weekly nets / live chat ? (Devin L. Ganger)
5. Re: weekly nets / live chat ? (John)
6. Re: weekly nets / live chat ? (Joe N3XLS)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:50:10 -0500
From: Roy <rdwelch@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Jeffrey Richmond ?
Message-ID: <1473E5AC-ACFE-4B1A-B356-474522E704FB@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Jeffrey Richmond, where are you? I keep getting mail addressed to you as:
Jeffrey Richmond
Amsat
However it is at my address. This mail is from more than one originator. It
is from Dell, and now Indeed.com. An interesting thought is that both of
these companies are shown as being in Austin, TX. You are evidently on a
mailing list with my Missouri address. AMSAT doesn't show you as a member and
Dell doesn't seem to mind continuing to send mail to you here. Indeed.com has
no idea how you got on their mailing list but they say it will be removed.
Who knows, maybe Dell will have a big computer give away sweepstakes and will
send me your new Belch Fire 64-bit work station. HI !
73,
Roy -- W0SL
Sent from my iPad
R/D/Gd/Ggd
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:30:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: IW1DTU Fer <heliox694-iw1dtu@?????.???>
To: Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj@???????.??>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows and Picsat
Message-ID: <752715995.4265106.1521577815412@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Bonsoir Jean Pierre
thanks for useful info, science elements added to Nova download. Merci!
I usualy send picsat telemetry in real time with Online Telemetry Forwarder
by DK3WN.By the way, this evening no signal from the little bird :(
Vy 73 de Fer IW1DTU
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 5:04:42 PM GMT, Jean-Pierre Godet
<godetj@???????.??> wrote:
? Hi Fer,
? You can find, in the Celestrak data bases, the PicSat bird cat number
43132 under "Space & Earth Science" directory :
https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/science.txt
? By the way, looks like all my attemps to send telemetry data to the
PicSat server with "upload your data" are failing though the same frames
are accepted by "fast upload beacon". I tried with and without kiss
beacons, with end of lines Unix like (LF) and with Windows/DOS end of
lines (CR/LF) in vain. All my telemetry frames are redirected >
/dev/null 2>&1.? :-)
? Ciao Fer, enjoy listening to PicSat, 73+++ !
? Jean-Pierre F5YG
On 20/03/2018 16:07, IW1DTU Fer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I'd like tracking Picsat, norad #43132,? using **Nova for windows** but I
can't? find this bird? in amateur or cubesat list from Celestrack. Any idea?
> Fer IW1DTU
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:55:48 -0500
From: Brad Brooks <brad.wf7t@?????.???>
To: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
Message-ID: <ff767f0e-ea04-443c-870d-e792e1edc031@?????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I vote Slack. Count me in. 73 Brad WF7T
On Mar 20, 2018, 7:58 PM -0500, Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, wrote:
> Does anyone have interest in a slack workspace or similar style of hosted
> persistent chat? I know not a lot of hams have adopted the paradigm shift
> in chatops. Most of my chats are shifting from IRC to Discord and Slack.
> It's incredibly convenient to have an always on connection, be able to send
> and receive notifications, and send images and have a searchable chat log
> for almost all of time, plus all on mobile at zero cost.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick, pls consider moving the D* net to a weekday, especially with
> > summer coming up. Sundays usually involve a lot of family stuff or maybe
> > traveling home from a weekend trip.
> >
> > Thank you, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Patrick
> > STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:26 PM
> > To: Mr B r a d; AMSAT
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
> >
> > Hi, Brad!
> >
> > As I mentioned last night, I did not come up with the idea of a
> > D-Star get-together focused on satellite stuff. Others have
> > talked about creating - or relaunching - a talkgroup for this
> > sort of discussion in the DMR realm. AMSAT operates an EchoLink
> > conference server, which has been used for similar nets in the
> > past. There's the HF net, if it is still operating (no HF at
> > home presently, so I can't speak to that). Lots of options to
> > do something online.
> >
> > What I seem to be hearing has a common theme... "AMSAT should
> > do (some sort of chat, get-together, or net) on (radio, EchoLink,
> > or something online)". If someone is interested in doing this
> > on EchoLink, DMR, or some other mechanism - great! Do it!
> > Announce it here, on Twitter, Facebook, spread the word. It
> > doesn't have to be "official", but usually requires someone
> > to be the cat-herder-in-chief or ringleader for whatever is
> > proposed. The D-Star roundtable I mentioned has not had dozens
> > of check-ins on any given Sunday evening, but has had good
> > discussions and question-and-answer sessions. If something is
> > done on DMR, I don't have DMR capabilities - but it doesn't
> > hurt if we have these sorts of roundtables or chats in different
> > places. The D-Star roundtable has drawn in some local Arizona
> > interest, given that the reflector we have been using is
> > normally tied into several D-Star repeaters around the
> > Phoenix and Tucson areas, along with other repeaters that
> > may be connected to the reflector just for the roundtables.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > """ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK" .....from the last dispatch of messages
> > > ....Re: trying to get back to the Sunday evening AMSAT roundtable """"
> > > I Guess that is on d-star ?? this would be great to listen in on from a
> > > new Op perspective .....
> > > I have been looking for a Sat IRC or Sat-Op chat room or something like
> > > "ping jockey" toget get some quick answers to operating questions and
> > line
> > > up some QSO's and have not found anything for this. even a HF or
> > echo-link
> > > net could be helpful.this could also solve the ' no one else was on the
> > > bird' problem.
> > > sticking my neck out here , but I could host it on my valleymedia.org
> > > domain withone of the free chat room scripts if nothing more official or
> > > better is out here or offered?
> > > one link on the 'easy sats' / work-sats page would fuel the live
sat-chat
> > > room very nicely
> > >
> > > new guy Ko6kLBrad
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 04:36:27 +0000
From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@????????.???>
To: Brad Brooks <brad.wf7t@?????.???>, Sterling Coffey
<kawfey@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
If we are going to have a hangout on one of the modern comm sites, might as
well go for Discord -- it has all the Slack features plus is easier to hook
into with scripts and programs and bots, AND offers the option of voice chat
as well as an alternative to help folks connect/troubleshoot.
--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin@????????.???
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Brad Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:56 PM
To: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
I vote Slack. Count me in. 73 Brad WF7T
On Mar 20, 2018, 7:58 PM -0500, Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, wrote:
> Does anyone have interest in a slack workspace or similar style of
> hosted persistent chat? I know not a lot of hams have adopted the
> paradigm shift in chatops. Most of my chats are shifting from IRC to
Discord and Slack.
> It's incredibly convenient to have an always on connection, be able to
> send and receive notifications, and send images and have a searchable
> chat log for almost all of time, plus all on mobile at zero cost.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick, pls consider moving the D* net to a weekday, especially
> > with summer coming up. Sundays usually involve a lot of family stuff
> > or maybe traveling home from a weekend trip.
> >
> > Thank you, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> > Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:26 PM
> > To: Mr B r a d; AMSAT
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
> >
> > Hi, Brad!
> >
> > As I mentioned last night, I did not come up with the idea of a
> > D-Star get-together focused on satellite stuff. Others have talked
> > about creating - or relaunching - a talkgroup for this sort of
> > discussion in the DMR realm. AMSAT operates an EchoLink conference
> > server, which has been used for similar nets in the past. There's
> > the HF net, if it is still operating (no HF at home presently, so I
> > can't speak to that). Lots of options to do something online.
> >
> > What I seem to be hearing has a common theme... "AMSAT should do
> > (some sort of chat, get-together, or net) on (radio, EchoLink, or
> > something online)". If someone is interested in doing this on
> > EchoLink, DMR, or some other mechanism - great! Do it!
> > Announce it here, on Twitter, Facebook, spread the word. It doesn't
> > have to be "official", but usually requires someone to be the
> > cat-herder-in-chief or ringleader for whatever is proposed. The
> > D-Star roundtable I mentioned has not had dozens of check-ins on any
> > given Sunday evening, but has had good discussions and
> > question-and-answer sessions. If something is done on DMR, I don't
> > have DMR capabilities - but it doesn't hurt if we have these sorts
> > of roundtables or chats in different places. The D-Star roundtable
> > has drawn in some local Arizona interest, given that the reflector
> > we have been using is normally tied into several D-Star repeaters
> > around the Phoenix and Tucson areas, along with other repeaters that
> > may be connected to the reflector just for the roundtables.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > """ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK" .....from the last dispatch of messages
> > > ....Re: trying to get back to the Sunday evening AMSAT roundtable """"
> > > I Guess that is on d-star ?? this would be great to listen in on
> > > from a new Op perspective .....
> > > I have been looking for a Sat IRC or Sat-Op chat room or something
> > > like "ping jockey" toget get some quick answers to operating
> > > questions and
> > line
> > > up some QSO's and have not found anything for this. even a HF or
> > echo-link
> > > net could be helpful.this could also solve the ' no one else was
> > > on the bird' problem.
> > > sticking my neck out here , but I could host it on my
> > > valleymedia.org domain withone of the free chat room scripts if
> > > nothing more official or better is out here or offered?
> > > one link on the 'easy sats' / work-sats page would fuel the live
> > > sat-chat room very nicely
> > >
> > > new guy Ko6kLBrad
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
> > do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings:
> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
> > do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings:
> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:18:35 -0000
From: "John" <john@?????.???.??>
To: "'Devin L. Ganger'" <devin@????????.???>, "'Brad Brooks'"
<brad.wf7t@?????.???>, "'Sterling Coffey'" <kawfey@?????.???>,
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
Message-ID: <011c01d3c0f5$976d9ca0$c648d5e0$@?????.???.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I'd second Discord for two main reasons. 1) all of the below. 2) Slack has a
'buffer limit' of 10,000 messages server-wide unless you pay them an
exorbitant amount of money every month (circa $10 per user every month or
something). I tried applying for a not-for-profit upgrade for one of the
organisations that insisted on using Slack that I'm part of, and they
basically said "unless you're a registered charity, no chance".
As an aside though, Discord too has its flaws - anyone with the url can join
and there's no way of monitoring who is joining without having a bot that
actively welcomes every user by name, which gets quite spammy. The "secure"
channels on a Discord server are not secure either - people with a third
party client can dump all the contents of every "secure" channel without
even having to try too hard. However, it's a perfectly respectable platform
if you feel the need for multiple channels.
If you only care about a single "channel" or stream of chatter, go for
Telegram - cross platform including most desktop OSs, web client for those
who don't want to install a native client, and 'just works'. Joining either
by link or invitation from an existing member, and shows when someone joins.
Persistent history, as with Discord.
This debate could get heavy, but work out what you'd want (single stream of
chat, multiple channels etc etc) and then work out what the best platform is
for the specific job you want to do.
73, and a firm left handshake,
John (XLX)
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Devin L. Ganger
Sent: 21 March 2018 04:36
To: Brad Brooks <brad.wf7t@?????.???>; Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>;
amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
If we are going to have a hangout on one of the modern comm sites, might as
well go for Discord -- it has all the Slack features plus is easier to hook
into with scripts and programs and bots, AND offers the option of voice chat
as well as an alternative to help folks connect/troubleshoot.
--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin@????????.???
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Brad Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:56 PM
To: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
I vote Slack. Count me in. 73 Brad WF7T
On Mar 20, 2018, 7:58 PM -0500, Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, wrote:
> Does anyone have interest in a slack workspace or similar style of
> hosted persistent chat? I know not a lot of hams have adopted the
> paradigm shift in chatops. Most of my chats are shifting from IRC to
Discord and Slack.
> It's incredibly convenient to have an always on connection, be able to
> send and receive notifications, and send images and have a searchable
> chat log for almost all of time, plus all on mobile at zero cost.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick, pls consider moving the D* net to a weekday, especially
> > with summer coming up. Sundays usually involve a lot of family stuff
> > or maybe traveling home from a weekend trip.
> >
> > Thank you, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> > Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:26 PM
> > To: Mr B r a d; AMSAT
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
> >
> > Hi, Brad!
> >
> > As I mentioned last night, I did not come up with the idea of a
> > D-Star get-together focused on satellite stuff. Others have talked
> > about creating - or relaunching - a talkgroup for this sort of
> > discussion in the DMR realm. AMSAT operates an EchoLink conference
> > server, which has been used for similar nets in the past. There's
> > the HF net, if it is still operating (no HF at home presently, so I
> > can't speak to that). Lots of options to do something online.
> >
> > What I seem to be hearing has a common theme... "AMSAT should do
> > (some sort of chat, get-together, or net) on (radio, EchoLink, or
> > something online)". If someone is interested in doing this on
> > EchoLink, DMR, or some other mechanism - great! Do it!
> > Announce it here, on Twitter, Facebook, spread the word. It doesn't
> > have to be "official", but usually requires someone to be the
> > cat-herder-in-chief or ringleader for whatever is proposed. The
> > D-Star roundtable I mentioned has not had dozens of check-ins on any
> > given Sunday evening, but has had good discussions and
> > question-and-answer sessions. If something is done on DMR, I don't
> > have DMR capabilities - but it doesn't hurt if we have these sorts
> > of roundtables or chats in different places. The D-Star roundtable
> > has drawn in some local Arizona interest, given that the reflector
> > we have been using is normally tied into several D-Star repeaters
> > around the Phoenix and Tucson areas, along with other repeaters that
> > may be connected to the reflector just for the roundtables.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > """ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK" .....from the last dispatch of messages
> > > ....Re: trying to get back to the Sunday evening AMSAT roundtable """"
> > > I Guess that is on d-star ?? this would be great to listen in on
> > > from a new Op perspective .....
> > > I have been looking for a Sat IRC or Sat-Op chat room or something
> > > like "ping jockey" toget get some quick answers to operating
> > > questions and
> > line
> > > up some QSO's and have not found anything for this. even a HF or
> > echo-link
> > > net could be helpful.this could also solve the ' no one else was
> > > on the bird' problem.
> > > sticking my neck out here , but I could host it on my
> > > valleymedia.org domain withone of the free chat room scripts if
> > > nothing more official or better is out here or offered?
> > > one link on the 'easy sats' / work-sats page would fuel the live
> > > sat-chat room very nicely
> > >
> > > new guy Ko6kLBrad
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
> > do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > Subscription settings:
> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
> > do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > Subscription settings:
> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 05:46:09 -0400
From: Joe N3XLS <n3xls@?????.???>
To: John <john@?????.???.??>, "'Devin L. Ganger'"
<devin@????????.???>, 'Brad Brooks' <brad.wf7t@?????.???>, 'Sterling
Coffey' <kawfey@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
Message-ID: <20180321094624.259638B07@??????????.?????.???>
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There is the n8fq sked page.? ?I use the lotw page but i check the sat page
too.? Its like ping jockey.http://n8fq.org/sked/
Why reinvent the wheel?
-------- Original message --------From: John <john@?????.???.??> Date:
3/21/18 5:18 AM (GMT-05:00) To: "'Devin L. Ganger'" <devin@????????.???>,
'Brad Brooks' <brad.wf7t@?????.???>, 'Sterling Coffey' <kawfey@?????.???>,
amsat-bb@?????.??? Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
I'd second Discord for two main reasons. 1) all of the below. 2) Slack has a
'buffer limit' of 10,000 messages server-wide unless you pay them an
exorbitant amount of money every month (circa $10 per user every month or
something). I tried applying for a not-for-profit upgrade for one of the
organisations that insisted on using Slack that I'm part of, and they
basically said "unless you're a registered charity, no chance".
As an aside though, Discord too has its flaws - anyone with the url can join
and there's no way of monitoring who is joining without having a bot that
actively welcomes every user by name, which gets quite spammy. The "secure"
channels on a Discord server are not secure either - people with a third
party client can dump all the contents of every "secure" channel without
even having to try too hard. However, it's a perfectly respectable platform
if you feel the need for multiple channels.
If you only care about a single "channel" or stream of chatter, go for
Telegram - cross platform including most desktop OSs, web client for those
who don't want to install a native client, and 'just works'. Joining either
by link or invitation from an existing member, and shows when someone joins.
Persistent history, as with Discord.
This debate could get heavy, but work out what you'd want (single stream of
chat, multiple channels etc etc) and then work out what the best platform is
for the specific job you want to do.
73, and a firm left handshake,
John (XLX)
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Devin L. Ganger
Sent: 21 March 2018 04:36
To: Brad Brooks <brad.wf7t@?????.???>; Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>;
amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
If we are going to have a hangout on one of the modern comm sites, might as
well go for Discord -- it has all the Slack features plus is easier to hook
into with scripts and programs and bots, AND offers the option of voice chat
as well as an alternative to help folks connect/troubleshoot.
--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin@????????.???
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Brad Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:56 PM
To: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
I vote Slack. Count me in. 73 Brad WF7T
On Mar 20, 2018, 7:58 PM -0500, Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, wrote:
> Does anyone have interest in a slack workspace or similar style of
> hosted persistent chat? I know not a lot of hams have adopted the
> paradigm shift in chatops. Most of my chats are shifting from IRC to
Discord and Slack.
> It's incredibly convenient to have an always on connection, be able to
> send and receive notifications, and send images and have a searchable
> chat log for almost all of time, plus all on mobile at zero cost.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrick, pls consider moving the D* net to a weekday, especially
> > with summer coming up. Sundays usually involve a lot of family stuff
> > or maybe traveling home from a weekend trip.
> >
> > Thank you, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> > Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:26 PM
> > To: Mr B r a d; AMSAT
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] weekly nets / live chat ?
> >
> > Hi, Brad!
> >
> > As I mentioned last night, I did not come up with the idea of a
> > D-Star get-together focused on satellite stuff. Others have talked
> > about creating - or relaunching - a talkgroup for this sort of
> > discussion in the DMR realm. AMSAT operates an EchoLink conference
> > server, which has been used for similar nets in the past. There's
> > the HF net, if it is still operating (no HF at home presently, so I
> > can't speak to that). Lots of options to do something online.
> >
> > What I seem to be hearing has a common theme... "AMSAT should do
> > (some sort of chat, get-together, or net) on (radio, EchoLink, or
> > something online)". If someone is interested in doing this on
> > EchoLink, DMR, or some other mechanism - great! Do it!
> > Announce it here, on Twitter, Facebook, spread the word. It doesn't
> > have to be "official", but usually requires someone to be the
> > cat-herder-in-chief or ringleader for whatever is proposed. The
> > D-Star roundtable I mentioned has not had dozens of check-ins on any
> > given Sunday evening, but has had good discussions and
> > question-and-answer sessions. If something is done on DMR, I don't
> > have DMR capabilities - but it doesn't hurt if we have these sorts
> > of roundtables or chats in different places. The D-Star roundtable
> > has drawn in some local Arizona interest, given that the reflector
> > we have been using is normally tied into several D-Star repeaters
> > around the Phoenix and Tucson areas, along with other repeaters that
> > may be connected to the reflector just for the roundtables.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> > http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> > Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > """ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK" .....from the last dispatch of messages
> > > ....Re: trying to get back to the Sunday evening AMSAT roundtable """"
> > > I Guess that is on d-star ?? this would be great to listen in on
> > > from a new Op perspective .....
> > > I have been looking for a Sat IRC or Sat-Op chat room or something
> > > like "ping jockey" toget get some quick answers to operating
> > > questions and
> > line
> > > up some QSO's and have not found anything for this. even a HF or
> > echo-link
> > > net could be helpful.this could also solve the ' no one else was
> > > on the bird' problem.
> > > sticking my neck out here , but I could host it on my
> > > valleymedia.org domain withone of the free chat room scripts if
> > > nothing more official or better is out here or offered?
> > > one link on the 'easy sats' / work-sats page would fuel the live
> > > sat-chat room very nicely
> > >
> > > new guy Ko6kLBrad
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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