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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch Flexible Coax
(Ron VE8RT)
2. Last pass from St. Barts (Jim White)
3. Re: Radio question(s) (Peter J. McClosky)
4. Re: Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch Flexible Coax
(Kevin M)
5. Re: Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch Flexible Coax
(Peter Goodhall)
6. Re: Radio question(s) (Robert Switzer)
7. Fwd: Last pass from St. Barts (Jim White)
8. hearing SSB on my FM HT (Mr B r a d)
9. Re: hearing SSB on my FM HT (Larry Peterson)
10. Re: Yaesu FT2D? (Don KB2YSI)
11. SatPC32 - setting up satellite groups (Ken Alexander)
12. Re: SatPC32 - setting up satellite groups (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
13. Working satellites with Morse (Marshall R. Toburen)
14. Re: Working satellites with Morse (Mike Diehl)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:15:59 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch
Flexible Coax
Message-ID: <20180426051559.9ca0539f4929248d2d9b1d00@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Out of my price range, check RG 393. I use it at work.
Ron VE8RT
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:46:51 +0100
David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am rebuilding my antenna stack and while I have used RG-214 as the coax
pairs from the ants around the rotator to the pol switches in the past, I
wonder if anyone
> has any other suggestions for coax.
>
> 73
>
> Dave, G4DPZ
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:58:11 -0400
From: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Last pass from St. Barts
Message-ID:
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Last pass from FJ/N0KV on St. Barts will be FO29 at 1723Z today. After
that we will finish packing up, eat the last of the cold cereal, and
depart very early tomorrow for St. Martin and Miami. We have about 85 on
sats so far. We had some fascinating sat contacts propagation wise-which
I'll write up later.
Total of about 7,500 contacts so far on HF even though the bands have
been mostly poor. About 1,500 of those contacts are on FT8 (working now
on 20M).
Jim, WD0E
@?????
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:37:54 -0700
From: "Peter J. McClosky" <pmcclosky@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@??????.???
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Radio question(s)
Message-ID: <F134955B-7045-44FE-9F6D-9D7D0171CA01@?????????.???>
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Hello all,
I want to thank all who responded, with great answers, to my question about
which radio(s) to purchase!
I ended up getting a Kenwood TS-2000.
I look forward to meeting a lot of you on the air!
N7IY, Peter
-----
Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
Eugene, Oregon
pmcclosky@?????????.???
n7iy@????.???
http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Peter J. McClosky <pmcclosky@?????????.???>
wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am a new member here, and this is my first post.
>
> I am sure that this question has been asked many times before, but I would
like the groups current answers.
>
> I want to be able to work most of the FM & SSB satellites that fly over by
Oregon location, and also work portable using batteries.
>
> I would also like to work HF portable, so one one all mode HF, VHF, UHF,
SSB, FM radio would be desirable (I can willing to use two different radios).
>
> Money is an issue, but can spend a bit for this.
>
> Any Suggestions?
> -----
> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
> Eugene, Oregon
> pmcclosky@?????????.??? <mailto:pmcclosky@?????????.???>
> n7iy@????.???
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:41:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin M <n4ufo@?????.???>
To: "Kevin M. via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch
Flexible Coax
Message-ID: <339858227.1243619.1524757260755@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hello Dave
I used Davis RF 9914 Bury Flex cable between my yagis and preamps. It seems
to have held up well. Don't know if it's available across the pond, but
worth a look.? website for specs:? www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php
73, Kevin N4UFO
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:53:34 +0000
From: Peter Goodhall <peter@?????.???>
To: "David A. B. Johnson" <dave@?????.??.??>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for Antenna to Pol switch
Flexible Coax
Message-ID:
<CAFvUaiqeDomBe8g1JyUAHd3X_8nigrKjf68eTRJ3_kWfb7Cxdg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I've been using LBC240 Low Loss ExtraFlex
https://www.gigatronix.co.uk/coaxial-cable/product/CX50-LBC240XF-1/lbc240-low-
loss-extraflex-coaxial-cable-supplied-in-increments-of-1-metre
hasn't given me any issues as of yet.
Pete, 2M0SQL
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 08:49, David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am rebuilding my antenna stack and while I have used RG-214 as the coax
pairs from the ants around the rotator to the pol switches in the past, I
wonder if anyone
> has any other suggestions for coax.
> 73
> Dave, G4DPZ
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Peter Goodhall, 2M0SQL
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@?????.???>
To: Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???>, "Peter J. McClosky"
<pmcclosky@?????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Radio question(s)
Message-ID: <167783637.1189656.1524757882906@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On FM the cheap Baofengs May work but the quality ( lack of ) control makes
it hit or miss with respect to excessive desense, as I found out.
Rob KA2CZU
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, April 16, 2018, 1:08 PM, Sterling Coffey <kawfey@?????.???> wrote:
The FT-857 or FT-897 will be your best bet for shack-in-a-box HF/VHF/UHF
portable all-mode operation. Youll need to supply external batteries,
unless 5w max is okay, in which case go for the FT-817ND (or the FT-818 if
you want to buy new). I'd recommend buying both the 897 and an 817 for
satellites, so you can hear yourself on the downlink and meet almost all
your requirements radio-wise. On FM, you can get away with a pair of cheapy
Baofeng handhelds.
Antennas are another consideration; I'd recommend the Arrow II
<http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html> for satellite work, and
an endfed for with a resonant wire for each band for HF portable.
Sterling, N0SSC
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Peter J. McClosky <pmcclosky@?????????.???
> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am a new member here, and this is my first post.
>
> I am sure that this question has been asked many times before, but I would
> like the groups current answers.
>
> I want to be able to work most of the FM & SSB satellites that fly over by
> Oregon location, and also work portable using batteries.
>
> I would also like to work HF portable, so one one all mode HF, VHF, UHF,
> SSB, FM radio would be desirable (I can willing to use two different
> radios).
>
> Money is an issue, but can spend a bit for this.
>
> Any Suggestions?
> -----
> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
> Eugene, Oregon
> pmcclosky@?????????.???
> n7iy@????.???
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:17:29 -0600
From: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Last pass from St. Barts
Message-ID:
<CADJ3JMSO3YOA4r8tZtpxzkNFFcC4+SPH0D2ftJR04Xzr7ayPkw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
correction.
so50 at 1723z
jim
@?????
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Jim White" <jim@?????????????????.???>
Date: Apr 26, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: Last pass from St. Barts
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Cc:
Last pass from FJ/N0KV on St. Barts will be FO29 at 1723Z today. After that
> we will finish packing up, eat the last of the cold cereal, and depart very
> early tomorrow for St. Martin and Miami. We have about 85 on sats so far.
> We had some fascinating sat contacts propagation wise-which I'll write up
> later.
>
> Total of about 7,500 contacts so far on HF even though the bands have been
> mostly poor. About 1,500 of those contacts are on FT8 (working now on 20M).
>
> Jim, WD0E
>
> @?????
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:51:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Cc: "KP4MD/W6 Carol F. Milazzo" <kp4md@?????????.???>, Todd Urick
<toddurick@?????.???>, Larry Peterson <larry@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] hearing SSB on my FM HT
Message-ID: <2063352877.1201283.1524761505933@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Funny story?I just got my first hand held sat antenna last week , the ELKand
I'm?out in the yard trying to get the hang of using itwith my cheap btec x3
FM HT , no FM birds are upso I am punching in cw beacons of the birds in
viewand having pretty good luck detecting the CW?pulsing swish-swish sound
in the FM receiver and getting the feel foraiming the antenna while watching
the tiny screen on?my smart phone for aiming data.... then FO29comes in view
, A sat I have a really hard time hearingon my little home station?yagi , so
im able to just?detect? fo-29? beacon , just bearly on on?my FM HT , and as
the sat get in close ( overhead )I can start to hear some voice signals
decoding ??since thats a SSB bird , i guess the ht's wide 20kc 'IF'
signalsare mixing?with the CW carrier and sort of mixing upand giving me a
poor mans SSB audio decode ...this made me think back to my early days as a
kid when iwould use a old rf-generator on the bench to beat acarrier?up on
HF SSB signals to get th
em to decodeon a old AM only shortwave radio I had ....If the HT could run
in AM mode it might work even better.so if folks worked SSB near the low end
of the transponder?voices might mix with the beacon and decode for the ht's?
BradKo6kL
?
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:05:40 -0500
From: Larry Peterson <larry@?????.???>
To: Mr B r a d <jhill_81@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: "KP4MD/W6 Carol F. Milazzo" <kp4md@?????????.???>, Todd Urick
<toddurick@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] hearing SSB on my FM HT
Message-ID: <635ce509-6ff5-4bca-6f6f-32a6f3cb220e@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Being so big into satellite work, Brad, you should get involved with
WMPLOTA!?? See http://wmplota.org/
Larry WA9TT
On 4/26/2018 11:51 AM, Mr B r a d wrote:
> Funny story
> I just got my first hand held sat antenna last week , the ELK
> and I'm?out in the yard trying to get the hang of using it
> with my cheap btec x3 FM HT , no FM birds are up
> so I am punching in cw beacons of the birds in view
> and having pretty good luck detecting the CW
> pulsing swish-swish sound in the FM receiver and getting the feel for
> aiming the antenna while watching the tiny screen on
> my smart phone for aiming data.... then FO29
> comes in view , A sat I have a really hard time hearing
> on my little home station?yagi , so im able to just
> detect fo-29? beacon , just bearly on on
> my FM HT , and as the sat get in close ( overhead )
> I can start to hear some voice signals decoding ??
> since thats a SSB bird , i guess the ht's wide 20kc 'IF' signals
> are mixing?with the CW carrier and sort of mixing up
> and giving me a poor mans SSB audio decode ...
> this made me think back to my early days as a kid when i
> would use a old rf-generator on the bench to beat a
> carrier?up on HF SSB signals to get them to decode
> on a old AM only shortwave radio I had ....
> If the HT could run in AM mode it might work even better.
> so if folks worked SSB near the low end of the transponder
> voices might mix with the beacon and decode for the ht's?
>
> Brad
> Ko6kL
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:48:32 +0000
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT2D?
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8OcfCYCb2-dJA2Fp15a4iZ0c4=NDHGTgcDA0HGK13ZbkQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
This is what I do in conjunction with a MFJ-916B to fight desensitization
of the receiving HT.
73, Don KB2YSI
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 18:56 Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
wrote:
> The FT2D is half duplex. You can add just about any other HT and have a
> full duplex system though!
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks -
> >
> > New to satellite, just trying to figure the process out. This list has
> been very helpful!
> >
> > I see a lot of talk about full duplex handhelds and I want to be sure I
> understand. Does that mean that the HT is able to transmit on one band
> and simultaneously receive on the other at the same time?
> >
> > I have a Yaesu FT2D I'd love to use, but unless there's a setting I'm
> not aware of it stops receiving when you transmit.
> >
> > Any advice appreciated!
> >
> > - Eli Caul
> >
> > Director of Customer Care
> > Sonic
> > 707-237-6201 Direct
> > 707-521-0131 Faxline
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:25:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander@??????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 - setting up satellite groups
Message-ID: <128592076.1278024.1524767123600@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I created a new satellite group in SatPC32 just for FM satellites and named
it FMSats.? I added SO-50, AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92 to the group and saved it
under the new name.
When I run WinAOS the new group does not appear in the list of satellite
groups, only the groups that were already there.? I can't see where I missed
any important steps.? What am I missing?
Thanks for any assistance,
Ken AlexanderVE3HLS
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:54:35 +0200
From: PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat@?????.??>
To: Ken Alexander <k.alexander@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 - setting up satellite groups
Message-ID: <e4ff4898b091736b8957d373028b3786@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Hi Ken,
You need to create a group for every SatPC32 application.
Some examples on the following link:
https://github.com/janvgils/satpc32-config
73 Jan PE0SAT
On 26-04-2018 20:25, Ken Alexander wrote:
> I created a new satellite group in SatPC32 just for FM satellites and
> named it FMSats.? I added SO-50, AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92 to the group
> and saved it under the new name.
> When I run WinAOS the new group does not appear in the list of
> satellite groups, only the groups that were already there.? I can't
> see where I missed any important steps.? What am I missing?
> Thanks for any assistance,
> Ken AlexanderVE3HLS
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:58:59 -1000
From: "Marshall R. Toburen" <mrtoburen7@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Working satellites with Morse
Message-ID: <vtjml9nl569wktx54tr42oik.1524769139564@?????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Mike,? I've had similar experience, very few stations appear to operate CW.?
I've only had 3 CW QSOs, one which was cross mode.? My SatPC32 does not
provide good enough Doppler correction for CW.? I operate split and adjust
TX to remain on "fixed"? RX frequency.. If I hear a CW signal, I'll
definitely make a call.
Marshall, AA0FO
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:35:10 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: "Marshall R. Toburen" <mrtoburen7@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Working satellites with Morse
Message-ID: <467E4FD4-2A9C-4294-8453-3A64DC67098F@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I?m surprised you guys can?t find CW on the birds, on AO-7 it always seems
like there?s some QRO CW station you can hear in the entire passband. This
is usually followed by the poor old bird giving up and flipping into Mode A.
73,
Mike
W8LID
> On Apr 26, 2018, at 14:58, Marshall R. Toburen <mrtoburen7@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Mike, I've had similar experience, very few stations appear to operate
CW. I've only had 3 CW QSOs, one which was cross mode. My SatPC32 does not
provide good enough Doppler correction for CW. I operate split and adjust
TX to remain on "fixed" RX frequency.. If I hear a CW signal, I'll
definitely make a call.
>
> Marshall, AA0FO
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