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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Emails from AMSAT Website (Zach Metzinger)
2. Re: Orbit software (John Brier)
3. Re: LongJiang and Doppler correction (Scott)
4. Re: Orbit software (Don KB2YSI)
5. Re: Orbit software (John Brier)
6. Re: Orbit software (Don KB2YSI)
7. Re: Orbit software (Mark D. Johns)
8. Re: AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest, 1-2 June 2018 (Patrick
STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) (k6vug@?????????.????
9. Re: Emails from AMSAT Website (Mac A. Cody)
10. Re: Emails from AMSAT Website (Ken M)
11. Re: Emails from AMSAT Website (John Brier)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:27:12 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
Message-ID: <ae71ab54-10eb-f37e-83e1-2bd2808d6a3b@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
> re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> (ie. formatting)
Hello Vince,
This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
<...>
> TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTggMTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIFBhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0IGluZGljYXRl
This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
and laid out on your screen by your email program.
Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
interface? Does it look correct there?
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 17:49:25 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKPJe3CUR8_cddLEhV4-_bOiTVzMr4HkfP-6Fhsr8Mszjg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac, Linux,
and one web recommendation at the bottom:
http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
the wiki
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:30:33 -0400
From: "Scott" <scott23192@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
Message-ID: <4954B63620464E54BACC7A4D34C51283@???????>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi Jean Marc.
I have tried to follow the news of these lunar satellites. While several of
the guys with DSN capability have received the S-Band downlinks, I'm not
aware of anyone hearing anything on 70cm past the first day as the sats left
Earth.
In fact, even though I am listening every night for the 70cm telemetry
(using the team's GNU Radio flowgraphs), I have not heard any confirmation
that the 70cm transmitter is even on (telemetry -or- JT4).
-Scott, K4KDR
=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Marc Momple
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:37 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LongJiang and Doppler correction
Dear All,
May be a stupid question for the experts, but genuine from me.
Has anyone received any FT4G beacon signal from the Longiang Sats so far?
I have being trying to do so for the past week without success.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On May 26, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??> wrote:
>
>
> In the coming days the doppler shift on the 70 cm downlink of
> LongJiang 2 will vary between +2000 and -2200 Hz (for my QTH).
> This can easily be calculated with GMAT using the script I published
> a couple of hours ago (see my earlier post).
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 26-05-18 17:44, charlie@??????????????.???????????.??.?? wrote:
>> Michael
>>
>> I think that there are three main components to the Doppler shift for a
>> satellite orbiting the moon.
>>
>> 1. Earth rotation moving the observer toward the moon at moonrise (+ve
>> Doppler) and moonset (-ve).
>>
>> 2. Earth-moon distance variation (smaller than 1, and very slowly
>> changing in comparison).
>>
>> 3. Orbital velocity of the satellite itself.
>>
>> 1 and 2 are easy to work out using EME software, eg WSJT-X or Moonsked.
>> I
>> can't help with 3.
>>
>> Taking today as an example, total of 1 and 2 for the moon vary from ~ +3
>> to -4.5kHz at S-Band.
>>
>> With DSN satellites many of us use(d) JPL Horizons to calculate Doppler
>> shift for Deep Space missions. Observing the Doppler shift change when
>> probes were captured by the target planet was quite interesting (a slowly
>> changing shift to a cyclic one).
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Charlie G3WDG
>>
>> > I find that an interesting question. One would think that since the
>> moon
>>> orbits the earth at a much much slower rate than a satellite that there
>>> would be almost no Doppler correction required. If you compensate for
>>> the
>>> speed of the orbit around the moon that is also at a much lower speed
>>> than
>>> a Earth satellite would be traveling at. Earth satellites are in the
>>> 17,000 mph range and moon satellites are in the 2000 mile an hour range
>>> orbiting speed. Also the chance that the satellite orbiting the moon
>>> could
>>> be at such an axis where it is in full visibility the earth the whole
>>> time, at that point there would not be a Doppler correction based upon
>>> satellite velocity only the moon's velocity. Will be interesting to hear
>>> the experts chime in on this.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem will not be the pointing (you could just point to the moon
>>> :-)
>>> Pending distance, speed and orbit around the moon and position to earth,
>>> you might have a difficult time adjusting for doppler. I let more
>>> knowledgable folks chip in on this one.
>>>
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jordan Trewitt <jmtrewitt@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it was the 70 cm downlink, you might be able to schedule something
>>>> with
>>>> someone else's SATNOGS station (idk how that'd work with getting a
>>>> rotator
>>>> to work though), if they have a large enough yagi that is.
>>>> -Jordan
>>>> KF5COQ
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 12:46 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/25/18 11:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is confirmed from China that LongJiang 2 has performed a
>>>>>> successful braking maneuver, so that it is now in lunar orbit.
>>>>>> No further details yet.
>>>>> Nico,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know of any WebSDRs which are pointed and tuned to the downlink
>>>>> signals?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Zach
>>>>> N0ZGO
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:55:53 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8M5VEFQAShXA0EjsgfNZsSRRg8f0AFwx09vB9qgiDnFmw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...
73, Don KB2YSI
On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>
> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac, Linux,
> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>
> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>
> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
> the wiki
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:06:33 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKO70DmBhVqPWP_s1u7d0Sm_CDU6Y=jpPJ-OYaHofhV2Jg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
When I added gpredict to the wiki I was aware it worked in Windows but the
official site had no mention of it on their download page. At the time I
think I searched for Gpredict and Windows and probably saw the Sourceforge
page with Windows builds but I wasn't sure if it was official and I was in
a rush to publish so I just left it in the Linux section and didn't do
anything else.
I now see the official website mentions windows in the header. I will add
it under Windows too but perhaps the Sourceforge link should be added to
the official website's download page.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, May 29, 2018, 19:56 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???> wrote:
> Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...
>
> 73, Don KB2YSI
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>>
>> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac,
>> Linux,
>> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>>
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>
>> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
>> the wiki
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
>> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
>> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:14:24 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8MAraxnMvmkXFThENxoq3NBqcsURHFa2kkHtDhG9AynsA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Awesome John!
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> When I added gpredict to the wiki I was aware it worked in Windows but the
> official site had no mention of it on their download page. At the time I
> think I searched for Gpredict and Windows and probably saw the Sourceforge
> page with Windows builds but I wasn't sure if it was official and I was in a
> rush to publish so I just left it in the Linux section and didn't do
> anything else.
>
> I now see the official website mentions windows in the header. I will add it
> under Windows too but perhaps the Sourceforge link should be added to the
> official website's download page.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 19:56 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting that GPredict is not listed under Windows...
>>
>> 73, Don KB2YSI
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 17:50 John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> What platform? Windows, Mac, Linux, mobile, web?
>>>
>>> This article was written mostly for mobile apps but it has Win, Mac,
>>> Linux,
>>> and one web recommendation at the bottom:
>>>
>>> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to add to it let me know and I'll add you as an editor to
>>> the wiki
>>>
>>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
>>> > follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
>>> > rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> > Opinions
>>> > expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> > of
>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> > program!
>>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
--
73, Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:53:05 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Orbit software
Message-ID:
<CAHKCqnCKVxZ9hXHaf1HWbBGwh7OK6kKw6tSW=VDbngciqKgFsA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
You didn?t specify a platform. For Windows, this little free download works
well:
http://f6dqm.free.fr/soft/satex/en/satexplorer.htm
For iPhone see:
https://amsat-uk.org/2013/07/24/free-ham-radio-satellite-tracking-app-for-ios/
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 16:00 wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I am looking for a simple software package that will simply allow me to
> follow the current orbit of a hamsat..."where is it now?"I do not need
> rotor/antenna control.Suggestions?Bob wa7dxzDm33
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 00:11:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest, 1-2 June 2018
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Message-ID: <1873431478.2573172.1527639063397@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
That sounds exciting, would you be on SSB birds too?
Thanks & 73!UmeshK6VUG
---------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 04:06:59 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@??????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott AZ hamfest, 1-2 June 2018
Message-ID:
??? <CAN6TEUe+GW-hECcdEkJRQQaz9uMkUEgDGjHkAVssLYWVAmSaQQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi!
I will have an AMSAT booth at the Prescott Hamfest, which is also serving
as the 2018 ARRL Arizona State Convention, this Friday and Saturday (1-2
June 2018).
<snip>
Thanks in advance, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:52:51 -0500
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
Message-ID: <4e0bf17d-6ac4-d485-7688-e7e2844de16c@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I am encountering the same issue.
Mac AE5PH
On 05/29/2018 03:16 PM, Dino Papas wrote:
> Ditto here?
>
>> On May 29, 2018, at 3:52 PM, skristof@???????.??? wrote:
>>
>> You state that "there is no need to take any action", but my password
>> doesn't work anymore. So, I or someone in charge of the AMSAT store need
>> to take some kind of action. Recommendation?
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>>
>> On 2018-05-29 14:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> Many of you have received an email stating that your AMSAT website
>>> password had been changed. These emails were automatically generated
>>> during the final merge of our old membership database into our new
>>> system. There is no need to take any action.
>>>
>>> We apologize for any inconvenience.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Executive Vice President
>>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
>>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 23:49:50 +0000
From: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
Message-ID:
<CO2PR01MB2071EC9E60C16C51ACCE257D986D0@?????????????.????.????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello all,
These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style AMSAT
mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum that can
be organized by topic.
73 Ken VA7KBM
On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger
<zmetzing@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>> wrote:
On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
(ie. formatting)
Hello Vince,
This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
<...>
TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTggMTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIFBhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0IGluZGljYXRl
This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
and laid out on your screen by your email program.
Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
interface? Does it look correct there?
--- Zach
N0ZGO
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes this
open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 22:30:00 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Emails from AMSAT Website
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I don't mind sticking with the email list. We have web forums if you need
to do fancy formatting:
https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/satellite-and-space-communications.69/
I believe recently someone had trouble formatting something here so they
posted it there and linked to it from here. It happens so infrequently I
don't think it's worth the change.
I have amsat-bb go straight to my inbox unfiltered because I like to stay
up on AMSAT activities. I also have notifications on the QRZ satellite
forum, but I have to leave my email app on my phone to do anything with it,
and the web interface isn't great on mobile IIRC. Email is simple and easy.
They each have their merits.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> These and many other email issues are why, IMHO, the current old-style
> AMSAT mailing list should be converted to a more modern web-based forum
> that can be organized by topic.
>
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On May 29, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???<??????????
> tzing@?????.???>> wrote:
>
> On 05/29/18 16:33, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> And just as a side note, when the email issue is solved, another
> re-look at why some messages come through with no CR or line feeds.
> (ie. formatting)
>
> Hello Vince,
>
> This is likely a side-effect of the MIME processing in your email
> client. Mike's email was base64 encoded and sent to the list by
> Thunderbird 52.8.0 (from headers).
>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> <...>
> TWUgdG9vLCBObyByZXBseSEKCk1pa2UsIEFCOVYKCgpPbiA1LzI5LzIwMTgg
> MTU6MjYgUE0sIFNj
> b3R0IHdyb3RlOgo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgdGhlIGluZm8sIF
> BhdWwhCj4KPiBBcyBhIGNoZWNrLCBJ
> IHRyaWVkIHRvIGxvZyBpbiBhbmQgbXkgY3VycmVudCBwYXNzd29yZCB3YXMg
> bm90IGFjY2VwdGVk
> Lgo+Cj4gSSBjbGlja2VkIHRoZSBQYXNzd29yZCBSZXNldCBidXR0b24gYW5kIGl0
> IGluZGljYXRl
>
> This "line noise" is reconstituted into his email message at your end
> and laid out on your screen by your email program.
>
> Mike's email shows up just fine for me in Thunderbird 45.5.1 and Mutt
> 1.7.1 (2016-10-04).
>
> Have you tried looking at his message using your provider's web mail
> interface? Does it look correct there?
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
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