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Today's Topics:
1. No Phone Serve (Martha)
2. DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from Lunar Orbit and
Subsequent Test Plan (Robert Ehresman)
3. M2 keo pack coax connections (wa7dxz)
4. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (Paul Andrews)
5. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
6. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (W3AB/GEO)
7. PSAT NO84 back up (Robert Bruninga)
8. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (R.T.Liddy)
9. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
10. Re: M2 keo pack coax connections (W3AB/GEO)
11. Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.)
12. Re: Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25?
(Burns Fisher)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:54:49 -0400
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Board of Directors <bod@?????.???>,
senior-officers <senior-officers@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] No Phone Serve
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The AMSAT office has had no phone service today. COMCAST says they expect
it to be up by 3:00PM.
--
73- Martha
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:13:49 -0500
From: Robert Ehresman <robert.ehresman@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP: First Amateur Radio Transmissions from
Lunar Orbit and Subsequent Test Plan
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Folks:
It has been reported that some few hams have received DSLWP signals and
some fewer have decoded GMSK packets following Lunar Orbit insertion. .
It might be useful for the rest of us to hear what the successful
configurations are (receiver, antenna, preamp, etc).
I believe having a sense of what the minimum successful system gain and
Noise Figure required would help the rest of us get something working.
73;
Bob KV4PC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:23:14 -0700
From: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
Message-ID: <20180606192319.43FF92297E@??????????.?????.???>
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As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is that
correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector? for the vhf side.Im
ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter
(pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:53:54 -0400
From: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
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I strongly suggest buying all high-quality VHF and UHF cables with
N-type-M connectors pre-installed.
It is much easier to buy a PL-259-M to N-Type-F and attached it to the radio.
Good Luck,
73-Paul-W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is
that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im
ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter
(pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:10:22 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
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I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid
adapters.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is
> that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im
> ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter
> (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:11:39 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
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In my little world where every little bit of loss is considered, and
adapters get lost or fail, I'd go with the connectors you need installed as
a prime on the cables. They are easy to install and should you experience a
failure, you'd know how to repair/replace.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Jun 6, 2018, 12:55, at 12:55, Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???> wrote:
>I strongly suggest buying all high-quality VHF and UHF cables with
>N-type-M connectors pre-installed.
>
>It is much easier to buy a PL-259-M to N-Type-F and attached it to the
>radio.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>73-Paul-W2HRO
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors,
>is that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf
>side.Im ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an
>adapter (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:03:13 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT NO84 back up
Message-ID: <a29190e9fc2191ee0fc5db95829a6ad0@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
DK3WN, Mike informs me that he has commanded PSAT digipeater back on.
It has been in safe mode for almost a month and so, maybe it is time to
bring it back on line and hope that it stays up through Field Day.
Our Naval Academy ground station has been moved to a basement building for
18 months while renovations are in progress, so we are off line and
dependent on our excellent volunteer station DK3WN for the honors...
Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
FalconSat-3 takes a little more to set up on a D72, but it is currently
our only orbiting digipeater on 24/7. NO-84 is occasionally on, and maybe
we can hope for its batteries to be charged enough so a command station
can turn the digipeater on for Field Day weekend.... <snip>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:00:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
Message-ID: <459768635.1444475.1528322447383@????.?????.???>
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Bob,
As others have replied, avoiding adapters is the best
advice. This is especially true in outside weather
and wherever the connection is subject to movement
or vibration. Personally, I've used a few in the shack
on permanently mounted equipment for decades without
a problem as an expedient or cheapness/laziness.
GL/73, Bob K8BL
________________________________
From: wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is that
correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im
ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter
(pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:56:30 +0100
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
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Agree with Dave on this one, if you can't make the cables buy them with the
correct connectors.
You might only be talking 0.0*dB in losses but it also removes a point of
failure.
Peter, 2M0SQL
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 21:11, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
> I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid
> adapters.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S9
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors, is
> > that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf side.Im
> > ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an adapter
> > (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 16:31:26 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
Cc: W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 keo pack coax connections
Message-ID: <a8170aac-a66a-4940-bace-af841c2fa968@?????.???>
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Exactly Peter.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Jun 6, 2018, 16:29, at 16:29, "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)"
<peter@????????.??.??> wrote:
>Agree with Dave on this one, if you can't make the cables buy them with
>the
>correct connectors.
>
>You might only be talking 0.0*dB in losses but it also removes a point
>of
>failure.
>
>Peter, 2M0SQL
>
>On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 21:11, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I would get cables made up with the appropriate connectors and avoid
>> adapters.
>>
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy S9
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > As I understand it, both the vhf and uhf antennas use N connectors,
>is
>> > that correct?My ic-910h uses a pl 259 type connector for the vhf
>side.Im
>> > ordering coax...should I order N connectors, then simply use an
>adapter
>> > (pl259 type to N) on the radio end of the vhf coax?BibWa7dxz
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > expressed
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>views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:41:09 -0700
From: "Hugo Dominguez, Jr." <hugois@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92
Message-ID: <9A29F862-409C-42DC-A957-29EF6525B648@?????.???>
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I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all
the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my
Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna.
However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with
my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my
frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows:
Sat. Xmit Tone
SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz
AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz
AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ
AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz
These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for
doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165,
435.170, 435.175, 435.180.
Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing
something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91.
?
Hugo Dominguez, Jr.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:25:49 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: "'Hugo Dominguez, Jr.'" <hugois@?????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92
Message-ID: <002c01d3fdf6$16120c20$42362460$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the FM
sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't hear
while transmitting.
Got another radio so you can work full duplex?
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Hugo Dominguez, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92
I?ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I?m able to hear all
the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have programmed on my
Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic log antenna.
However no one can hear me or responds to me. I?ve only been successful with
my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I triple checked my
frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are set as follows:
Sat. Xmit Tone
SO-50 145.850 67.0 Hz
AO-85 435.170 67.0 Hz
AO-91 435.250 67.0 HZ
AO-92 435.350 67.0 Hz
These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I adjust for
doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160, 435.165,
435.170, 435.175, 435.180.
Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I missing
something? Like I said, i?ve been able to communicate on AO-91.
?
Hugo Dominguez, Jr.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:51:39 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Zach Leffke <zleffke@??.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5
21:25?
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BTW, the situation is a bit more complicated than just resetting while in
auto-safe mode. I tried that with the AO-85 software and could not
reproduce that behavior. I also think that I've seen it NOT happen on
AO-85. There has to be some timing window that I have not found.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Zach Leffke <zleffke@??.???> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, is there a state diagram anywhere that is publicly
> available for any or all of the Fox Series, showing the various potential
> modes and the causes for state transition? I'm mainly interested in using
> it (or them if there are variants available) as an introductory
> teaching/training tool for students getting into cubesat development and
> writing code for flight computers. I've got my own made up versions of
> what I might guess an overall state diagram might look like and the various
> causes of state transition for a cubesat (IHU reset, ground command,
> bus/battery voltage dropping below thresholds, etc.), but it would be much
> better if I could show a real world example.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Zach, KJ4QLP
>
> Research Associate
> Aerospace Systems Lab
> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
> Work Phone: 540-231-4174
> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
>
>
> On 6/6/2018 10:08 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>
>> As a follow-up, if the satellite has an IHU reset while in auto safe mode,
>> it reboots to safe mode. This apparently happened last night or
>> yesterday. I
>> commanded it back to Transponder mode this morning.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Glasbrenner
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:50 PM
>> To: 'Zach Metzinger' <zmetzing@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5
>> 21:25?
>>
>> It has been dropping into Safe Mode at the end of eclipses for a little
>> while now. It's a planned feature to protect the batteries from excessive
>> discharge.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:30 PM
>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1A (AO-85) in safe mode over Europe Jun 5 21:25?
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've been using (the most amazing) http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ WebSDR to
>> listen to
>> passes on the other side of the globe.
>>
>> I noticed that Fox-1A was announcing "Safe Mode" with what sounds like
>> 9600 bps telemetry. Is this normal?
>>
>> I didn't catch the voice announcement, but I do have a WAV file of the
>> telemetry.
>>
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
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