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Today's Topics:
1. Field Day Logging (Stephan Greene)
2. Re: Field Day Logging (k6vug@?????????.????
3. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
4. FT991A with Foxtelem (Joe Pereira)
5. ARISS-Russia FM transmissions (Joe Pereira)
6. Re: ARISS-Russia FM transmissions (Mike Rupprecht)
7. Re: ARISS-Russia FM transmissions (John Brier)
8. 3B8 Sat project now underway (Jean Marc Momple)
9. Re: ARISS-Russia FM transmissions (Julien NICOLAS)
10. RF power required for linear satellites? (Ken M)
11. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (Bryan KL7CN)
12. Re: RF power required for linear satellites?
(Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
13. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (jim@?????.????
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:47:15 -0400
From: Stephan Greene <ks1g04@?????.???>
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging
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Our club uses N1MM+ with the HF stations networked. I run a stand alone
copy that is never connected to the network or to my satellite radio. I
assign one band to each satellite/band and manually switch "bands" at the
start of a pass. This let's me manage dupes on each satellite and see where
I have been working someone. After field day, I export the log to a
spreadsheet and remove the dupes per ARRL rules, this info goes to the
person sending in our log. Works for me and I don't mess up the FD
network.
I haven't checked if the N1MM dx-satellite mode accepts the FD exchange
instead of a grid. It doesn't distinguish between satellites, so no dupe
checking in real time.
Steve KS1G
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:56:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging
Message-ID: <196637431.13311.1529449016875@????.?????.???>
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Initially I planned to use N1MM+, and got it to work alongside SatPC32.
N1MM & SatPC32 :?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lDiocYrz92OnfL1F0rttKhBOhfz68ShP
However after reading old posts in the AMSAT-BB archives, I decided to log
everything in a spreadsheet.? And thanks to Erich, DK1TB, for enabling DDE
in SatPC32, it makes things easier, the spreadsheet integrates with SatPC32
to grab the Satellite Name, Up/Dn Frequencies, Modes and Time. Then I can
export the spreadsheet log as an ADI file.? ( Since my other laptop does not
have MS Excel, I ported it to Open Office Calc too. )
Spreadsheet using SatPC32 DDE : SatPC32_Logger.png
I'll be using the club call KU6S for FD.?
73!
Umesh
K6VUG
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:52:55 -0400
From: VA3ASE <va3ase@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Logging
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Hello friends,
I'll be operating our club satellite station for Field Day and intend to
submit results towards the club ARRL score as well as the AMSAT contest. In
past years we have kept paper records during the event then typed them out
for submission, but last year we vowed to find a logging program that would
support satellite contacts. Even if we have to manually sort the ARRL from
the AMSAT results at the end I think it would be worthwhile. So I'm looking
for suggestions.
Our club is using "N3FJP Field Day Contest Log" which I don't think allows
logging the same contact on multiple satellites per AMSAT rules. Would
"N3FJP Amateur Contact Log" be better suited? I don't mind paying for good
software, especially if I can use it for my own satellite logging later. Or
if an Excel spreadsheet is truly the best option then I'll consider that.
Thanks and 73,
Alex VA3ASE
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:08:40 -0400
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-20
04:30 UTC
Message-ID: <1641bcf3076-c92-47d4@?????????????.???.???????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Tehni?ka ?kola Zaje?ar, Zaje?ar, Serbia, direct via YU1ACR
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
Contact was successful: Tue 2018-06-19 14:20:20 UTC 50 deg (***)
?
Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany, direct via DL?IL and
Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, direct via DL?SGH
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-06-27 10:32:19 UTC 62 deg
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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*
Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.
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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS???
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?
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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:?
Francesco IK?WGF with 132
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Sergey RV3DR with 103
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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date
webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-06-20 04:30 UTC.? (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1232. (***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1181. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas
Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
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QSL?information may be found at:??
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?
ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-20 04:30 UTC. (***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 55 on orbit
Drew Feustel
Oleg Artemyev
Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
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Exp. 56 on orbit
Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Sergei Propopev
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:30:46 +0930
From: Joe Pereira <joevk5ei@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT991A with Foxtelem
Message-ID:
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Hi Group,
Helping a fellow Ham setting up his radio to decode the DUV from the Fox
birds.
Has anyone had success using the Yaesu FT991A USB audio output into the Fox
Telemetry decoder.
Any setup details would be much appreciated.
TNX
Joe
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:29:48 +0930
From: Joe Pereira <joevk5ei@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
Message-ID:
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10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3.
Any reports from others ?
JP
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:16:10 +0200
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@??????????????.??>
To: "'Joe Pereira'" <joevk5ei@?????.???>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
Message-ID: <000301d40888$180ce620$4826b260$@??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Joe,
also nothing over Europe :-(
73 Mike
DK3WN
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? Im Auftrag von Joe Pereira
Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00
An: AMSAT BB
Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3.
Any reports from others ?
JP
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:44:50 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Mike Rupprecht <mail@??????????????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
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I only had one pass during the scheduled time period and it was only 0.7
max elevation, at 1136 UTC, just a bit ago, but I did not hear anything. It
was supposedly on 1.5 hrs ago according to ISSfanclub. Apparently they
turned it off a bit early.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 07:17 Mike Rupprecht <mail@??????????????.??> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> also nothing over Europe :-(
>
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? Im Auftrag von Joe
> Pereira
> Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00
> An: AMSAT BB
> Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
>
> 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3.
>
> Any reports from others ?
>
> JP
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:38:12 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 3B8 Sat project now underway
Message-ID: <C3EBF2F0-761E-4B43-945B-19A2892FA96B@?????.???>
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Dear All,
I wish to inform you guys that the 1st 3B8 cubesat is taking shape and will
fly in 2019.
Links: http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t?l?vis?-juin-20-2018
<http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t%C3%A9l%C3%A9vis%C3%A9-juin-20-201
8>, http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html
<http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html>
Hopefully it will carry a HAM transponder also and I am working on it.
I will surely need some help from you guys to make this venture a success
and I am calling for volunteers/experts to help us/me.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DIU)
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:29:49 +0200
From: Julien NICOLAS <contact@?????????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
Message-ID: <41b163f7c4dbc15bba03965de6ebbee8@?????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Hello,
You can check near everywhere in the world if something has been
received with the Satnogs project.
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?future=0&good=1&bad=1&unvetted=1&fai
led=1&norad=25544&observer=&station=
And of course it's not limited to the ISS.
If you want to schedule an observation anywhere in the network you must
share your ground station (even a not motorized one).
But for a public event like ARISS contact, observations are
automatically scheduled over all the network.
A lot of ham ground station are already in the network.
F4HVX
Le 20/06/2018 13:16, Mike Rupprecht a ?crit?:
> Hi Joe,
> also nothing over Europe :-(
>
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? Im Auftrag von Joe
> Pereira
> Gesendet: 20 June 2018 13:00
> An: AMSAT BB
> Betreff: [amsat-bb] ARISS-Russia FM transmissions
>
> 10:58 UTC today, nothing heard from the Tanusha 3.
>
> Any reports from others ?
>
> JP
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:18:46 +0000
From: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID:
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Hello AMSATers,
I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
Thanks & 73,
Ken VA7KBM
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:53:00 -0700
From: Bryan KL7CN <bryan@?????.???>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID: <E648BE02-0F83-44BB-B3A8-1CFD78A8DC06@?????.???>
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Five watts is definitely sufficient for the common linear satellites.
There are circumstances when it is nice to have a little more -- maybe 10
watts -- such as on a very low pass from a high location.
But, there are so many who use the 5-watt FT-817ND that you will soon hear a
chorus. :)
-- bag
Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan@?????.???
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 00:18, Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
>
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
>
> For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Ken VA7KBM
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:54:03 +0100
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID:
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5w is plenty!
73
Peter, 2M0SQL
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, 23:50 Ken M, <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
> common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
>
> For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
> radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
> a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Ken VA7KBM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID: <1529537251.553924340@????.?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8
Five watts should be find. If I remember right, my low power record into
FO-20 or FO29 was 20 milliwatts for a perfectly usable QSO. I will point
out that I was using a full Oscar 10 class station.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html
Jim Walls
K6CCC
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ken M" <va7kbm@???????.???>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 00:18
To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Hello AMSATers,
I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
Thanks & 73,
Ken VA7KBM
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