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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (Paul Stoetzer)
   2. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (Zach Metzinger)
   3. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (Stephen  E. Belter)
   4. Re: RF power required for linear satellites? (B J)
   5. EN84 activation Monday June 25 (aa8ch@???.????
   6. Re: 3B8 Sat project now underway 2 (Jean Marc Momple)
   7. AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Second call for Speakers (David Johnson)
   8. AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Speakers (David Johnson)
   9. global satellite tracking !? (Butch)
  10. Re: AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  11. Re: global satellite tracking !? (David Johnson)
  12. Re: AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  13. Reminder! AMSAT Field Day Starts at 1800 UTC 23-Jun
      (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 19:31:10 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqpeR2m_S9qN47Uc3CjNLC9fZbx+_KmpH9qqJcXG+HN8A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I have heard myself on FO-29 with 50 mW to an Arrow (at a high elevation)
and made one QSO using 250 mW.

I've used 500 mW quite frequently.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 7:27 PM, jim@?????.??? <jim@?????.???> wrote:

>
> Five watts should be find.  If I remember right, my low power record into
> FO-20 or FO29 was 20 milliwatts for a perfectly usable QSO.  I will point
> out that I was using a full Oscar 10 class station.
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html
>
> Jim Walls
> K6CCC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ken M" <va7kbm@???????.???>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 00:18
> To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
>
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
> common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
>
> For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
> radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
> a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Ken  VA7KBM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:34:56 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID: <1f01acdf-716a-2f0f-5735-060245339df8@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 06/20/18 02:18, Ken M wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?

This page has some useful tips:

https://amsat-uk.org/beginners/how-to-work-ssb-satellites/

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:35:56 +0000
From: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@??????.???>
To: Bryan KL7CN <bryan@?????.???>, Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID: <8D5178F3-2D1B-44C5-9AB1-584E4EBA1261@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ken,

I agree with Bryan, for 364 of the days of the year.  5 watts is usually
fine and sometimes too much for the linear satellites.

This is really a function of how busy the satellite is, and how much power
the other operators are using.  On a quiet pass, some operators report
success with only 50 milliwatts.

The one day of the year that you may have trouble with is Field Day, with
lots of traffic, and a few QRO stations.

I'm not encouraging you to use more power, as that can cause real problems
on AO-7 (usually causing it to crash or reset to Mode A) or FO-29 (usually
causing severe FM'ing of the entire passband).  But be aware that your
experience on Field Day may be different than the rest of the year.

I do encourage you to use a good antenna (e.g., Arrow or Elk), a relatively
short length of quality coax (6-10 feet of LMR-240 Ultraflex, not RG-8), and
no connector adapters.

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@??????.???



On 6/20/18, 5:57 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Bryan KL7CN"
<amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of bryan@?????.???> wrote:

    Five watts is definitely sufficient for the common linear satellites.

    There are circumstances when it is nice to have a little more -- maybe
10 watts -- such as on a very low pass from a high location.

    But, there are so many who use the 5-watt FT-817ND that you will soon
hear a chorus. :)

    -- bag

    Bryan KL7CN/W6
    Location: CM98, usually
    E-Mail: bryan@?????.???
    Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

    > On Jun 20, 2018, at 00:18, Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
    >
    > Hello AMSATers,
    >
    > I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
    >
    > For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the
uplink radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios,
or just a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?
    >
    > Thanks & 73,
    > Ken  VA7KBM

    _______________________________________________
    Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
    to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
    are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
    Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
    Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:34:25 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF power required for linear satellites?
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkMpV4fLgowrvWAZ8q9JV67xtNHPdxY1SMu0+6UM1Jx=PA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On 6/20/18, Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
> Hello AMSATers,
>
> I?m wondering if 5 watts is generally sufficient RF output to work the
> common linear satellites using a handheld satellite antenna (Arrow or Elk)?
>
>
> For example, would an FT-817ND (or the new FT-818) suffice for the uplink
> radio, or would you need an amplifier with those 5 (6) watt radios, or just
> a more powerful radio such as the FT-857D?

<snip>

The lowest output power of my radio is 5 W and that's more than
adequate for working linear satellites.

For example, I've often been on south-north FO-29 passes to the west
of me.  From my balcony, I've been able to hear my signal, however
faintly, all the way to LOS.  According to my tracking software, the
grid square where that occurs is somewhere on the Arctic Ocean with
the distance to the satellite usually more than 3500 km from my QTH.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:57:40 -0400
From: aa8ch@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN84 activation Monday June 25
Message-ID: <16422d9daa7-c8f-6669@?????????????.???.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Look for ops AA8CH and WW8W to be active from EN84 on Monday June 25th. 
Tentative plans include XWs in the 1300 hour, and the morning (our time)
AO92s and the CAS4 passes.  We might try AO07 and FO29 as well. 
Transmission on linears will be fixed frequency and tuning for callers. 
Bring your SAT gear to work with you if you need this grid.  Email to AA8CH
with any questions.   QSOs uploaded to LOTW as always.


Good luck and hope to hear everyone!


Chris AA8CH


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 23:08:43 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 3B8 Sat project now underway 2
Message-ID: <B605F23B-EAF6-42E3-99A1-F482F27ECA99@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8


Dear All,

Another link for the National TV cover on the project:

http://mbc.intnet.mu/article/vid?o-mauritius-infra-red-satellite-one-le-1er-sa
tellite-mauricien-est-en-phase-de-mise-?
<http://mbc.intnet.mu/article/vid%C3%A9o-mauritius-infra-red-satellite-one-le-
1er-satellite-mauricien-est-en-phase-de-mise-%C3%A0>


Jean Marc (3B8DU)



> On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I wish to inform you guys that the 1st 3B8 cubesat is taking shape and
will fly in 2019.
>
> Links: http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t?l?vis?-juin-20-2018
<http://www.mbcradio.tv/article/le-journal-t%C3%A9l%C3%A9vis%C3%A9-juin-20-201
8>, http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html
<http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/06/20180619_kibocube.html>
>
> Hopefully it will carry a HAM transponder also and I am working on it.
>
> I will surely need some help from you guys to make this venture a success
and I am calling for volunteers/experts to help us/me.
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DIU)



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:15:25 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Second call for Speakers
Message-ID: <3BC04A44-96E9-468E-A63C-8885F9573AF3@?????.??.??>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

This is the second call for speakers for the AMSAT-UK International Space
Colloquium 2018
which will be held on Saturday and Sunday, October 13-14 at the Kents Hill
Park Conference Centre,
Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ, United Kingdom.

AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites,
CubeSats, Nanosats, Space,
High Altitude Balloons and associated activities, for this event.

Those wishing to speak should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk

Further information https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium
<https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium>

73 Dave G4DPZ

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:16:10 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 Speakers
Message-ID: <4CB03EE2-8F11-4DC8-BAB3-5A41B129349A@?????.??.??>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Hi,

On behalf of the AMSAT-UK Committee I am pleased to announce the list of
speakers who have
volunteered to present papers at the event (https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/
<https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/>)

Dr, Chris Bridges, M0IEB (and students), Surrey Space Centre: "ESA ESEO
Payloads"
Matthew Cosby, Chief Scientist, Goonhilly Earth Station Ltd: "Goonhilly :
Developing a global deep space communications network"
The FUNcube Team: "JY1Sat , FUNcube Next"
Peter Guelzow, DB2OS, AMSAT-DL: "Es'hail-2 and it's amateur radio payload"
David Johnson, G4DPZ & Carlos Eavis, G3VHF: "An introduction to Amateur
Satellites"
Naomi Kurahara, Chief Exec, Infostellar JP: "Distributed Grounstations
(StellarStation)"
Ciaran Morgan, M0XTD, ARISS-UK (and school pupil): ARISS / STEM Outreach
Prof. David Southwood, Imperial College London
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_College_London>: "Cassini-Huygens:
Odyssey to Saturn and Titan"
Joe Spier, K6WAO, President, AMSAT-NA: "50 Years of AMSAT and Beyond"
Iain Young, G7III: "Automated reception of FUNcube and Fox Telemetry"

Details of when they will be presenting during the event will be published
in the near future.

(We still have 3 slots available if you want to volunteer a presentation)

In addition to the presentations, the ARISS-UK team will be assembling a
demonstration ground station
with the same configuration as that used in schools contacts.

73

Dave, G4DPZ

----------

ANS Editors, Please add article, thanks, Dave



------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:15:35 -0400
From: Butch <occamrazr@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] global satellite tracking !?
Message-ID: <FCDCFB0D-605D-4571-ADA3-58074DF92BFE@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Does anyone know anything about this: 
https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur
<https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur> ?

UHF only for now, but some neat stuff here:
https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq
<https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq>

Future updates here:
https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap
<https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap>

Some fine print (enlarged for easier reading ;-):
Regarding amateur frequencies:  Amateur ground stations use special credits
that are designated to only amateur frequencies. Credits that are earned by
sharing commercial ground stations cannot be spent for using amateur ground
stations. Additionally, credits earned through amateur ground stations
cannot be converted to cash.
The only way to access amateur ground stations in the StellarStation network
is to share your existing amateur ground station to earn special credits
designated for amateur frequencies.

How it works: When you share your unused antenna time and earn credit, you
can then spend your credit to access other antennas, dramatically expanding
your communication window without paying for additional passes.

Users without a ground station can simply sign up to use any compatible
ground station on our platform with pay-as-you-go billing and no upfront
costs.

Work in progress?  Vaporware?  Too good to be true?  Anyone willing to give
it a try?

Yes, I have signed up with SatNOGS, but my ground station is not yet complete?

Butch K8KO

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:59:47 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: "'Greg D'" <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun
Message-ID: <00aa01d40a6b$f4524dc0$dcf6e940$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

That's the plan pending a successful mode change this evening.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:36 PM
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun

Hi Drew,

Just confirming...  Mode L/v for tomorrow?  We have a perfect pass at
11:09 local PDT (Field Day start + 9 minutes) on Saturday that I'd love to
try.

Thanks!

Greg  KO6TH


Greg D wrote:
> My thought, exactly.
>
> Thanks, Drew,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>> If you have L capability, this is the way to an easy 100 points.



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:18:01 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??>
To: Butch <occamrazr@?????.???>, amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] global satellite tracking !?
Message-ID: <272E07F6-65B6-407E-9CC0-9CE7C2C4F138@?????.??.??>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Yes, it exists and I am about to receive a StellarStation to join in the
Early adoption testing.

Naomi Kurahara the Chief Exec of Infostellar is giving a presentation of the
system at the AMSAT-UK Colloquium in October.

73

Dave, G4DPZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Jun 2018, at 21:15, Butch via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know anything about this: 
https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur
<https://www.stellarstation.com/amateur> ?
>
> UHF only for now, but some neat stuff here:
https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq
<https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/40-decoding-downloaded-iq>
>
> Future updates here:
https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap
<https://stellarstation.helpscoutdocs.com/article/36-product-roadmap>
>
> Some fine print (enlarged for easier reading ;-):
> Regarding amateur frequencies:  Amateur ground stations use special
credits that are designated to only amateur frequencies. Credits that are
earned by sharing commercial ground stations cannot be spent for using
amateur ground stations. Additionally, credits earned through amateur ground
stations cannot be converted to cash.
> The only way to access amateur ground stations in the StellarStation
network is to share your existing amateur ground station to earn special
credits designated for amateur frequencies.
>
> How it works: When you share your unused antenna time and earn credit, you
can then spend your credit to access other antennas, dramatically expanding
your communication window without paying for additional passes.
>
> Users without a ground station can simply sign up to use any compatible
ground station on our platform with pay-as-you-go billing and no upfront
costs.
>
> Work in progress?  Vaporware?  Too good to be true?  Anyone willing to
give it a try?
>
> Yes, I have signed up with SatNOGS, but my ground station is not yet
complete?
>
> Butch K8KO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:06:20 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: "'Greg D'" <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun
Message-ID: <00b601d40a96$c73a5cd0$55af1670$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Mode change made at 0158Z, and orbit earlier than planned due to a few
different reasons. Should stay in L/v through 0158Z 24Jun for the first half
of field day. Good luck! I don't recall ever having so many satellites
available before. Have patience with the new guys.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT VP Operations



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:00 PM
To: 'Greg D' <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun

That's the plan pending a successful mode change this evening.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:36 PM
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 is in L/v as of 0143Z 10Jun

Hi Drew,

Just confirming...  Mode L/v for tomorrow?  We have a perfect pass at
11:09 local PDT (Field Day start + 9 minutes) on Saturday that I'd love to
try.

Thanks!

Greg  KO6TH


Greg D wrote:
> My thought, exactly.
>
> Thanks, Drew,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>> If you have L capability, this is the way to an easy 100 points.

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:22:26 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reminder! AMSAT Field Day Starts at 1800 UTC
23-Jun
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOo-q-NebFuuXi_24kF1ZmJX77sagCpvVAk5kPB7KkQA5w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

All those with satellite stations for Field Day, remember to calculate and
submit your scores for AMSAT Field Day as well as ARRL Field Day. AMSAT
Field Day allows working stations on multiple satellites, whereas ARRL
rules count "satellite" as a single band (working a station on a second
satellite is a dupe under ARRL rules). AMSAT Field Day also awards points
for uploads and downloads of Field Day greetings from store-and-forward
packet satellites (FalconSAT-3).

See the AMSAT Field Day rules and submission requirements at
https://www.amsat.org/field-day/.

There are 4 FM satellites, 12 linear transponder satellites, and 3 digital
satellites that will be operational during Field Day this year. Anyone
looking for the 100 point ARRL Field Day bonus should be able to easily
pick it up.

FM
AO-91
AO-92 (In L/v mode through 0158Z 24-Jun, U/v mode after)
AO-85
SO-50

Linear Transponder
AO-7
AO-73
CAS-4A
CAS-4B
EO-88 (Eclipse Only)
FO-29
UKube-1
XW-2A
XW-2B
XW-2C
XW-2D
XW-2F

Digital
FalconSAT-3 (PBBS & Digipeater)
NO-84 (PSK31 & Digipeater)
LO-90 (FM Uplink / Codec2 Downlink)

Satellite details are available at https://www.amsat.org/two-way-satellites/
.

73,

Paul, N8HM


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without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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