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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Field Day (whew) (Devin L. Ganger)
   2. Re: FM sats and FD (tjschuessler@???????.????
   3. Re: Field Day (whew) (Stephan Greene)
   4. Re: FM sats and FD (Ryan Noguchi)
   5. Re: Field Day (John Brier)
   6. Field Day Kudos (Stephan Greene)
   7. Re: Field Day (whew) (MrToby)
   8. Re: Field Day (whew) (David Swanson)
   9. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218 (Mac A. Cody)
  10. Reply to WD9EWK question ref. FalconSat-3 on Field Day (Scott)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:57:20 +0000
From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@????????.???>
To: JamesDuffey <jamesduffey@???????.???>, "AMSAT-BB@?????.????
<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew)
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A couple of questions and observations sparked by your message. Note that I
have not yet participated in a Field Day, so I have no pony in this race.

> 1. Field Day is not a contest, it is an activity.

I think this statement right here is the crux of much of the disagreement.
While what you have stated is true in the grand spirit of the vision of
Field Day, the ARRL has also (as we all now) put out scoring rules for FD
QSOs and activities. So FD is *both* an outreach activity *and* a contest,
all at once. Most of the concerns raised only address one or the other.

> 2. In reference to point 1, logs are not scored or checked by the ARRL, so
> rules such as only one QSO per FM bird don?t work except for the people
> who only make one FM QSO per bird. The rule can?t work because it isn?t
> enforced.

I don't see it as being a set of behavioral rules, but of *scoring* rules,
and as such are enforced by peers. They work very well *for their intended

purpose* (which I agree is not to keep the satellites from getting jammed
up) and no other. In fact, as one of my colleagues in the IT world often
says, "There are seldom technological solutions to behavioral problems."

> 3. Making more than a single FM QSO per bird but not including them in your
> scoring does little to help with the mess on the FM birds during Field Day.
> One is still violating the rule and adding to the chaos, perhaps with good
> intentions, but still...

If you're not scoring a second or third FM QSO, then technically, are you in
violation of the rule? Especially where there are good reasons to make those
additional QSOs, as previous posters have shared -- helping others make
their single scorable FM QSO, etc. -- which are in the spirit of FD as the
outreach activity. This is not to endorse camping on the sat from AOS to
LOS, of course, but I believe there is room here for *good operators and

operational procedure* to meet in the grey area between FD the contest and
FD the activity.

--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email: devin@????????.???
web: Devin on Earth
cell: +1 425.239.2575

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:13:58 -0500
From: <tjschuessler@???????.???>
To: "'Burns Fisher'" <burns@??????.??>,	"'Greg D'"
<ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>, "'E.Mike McCardel'"
<mccardelm@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD
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Since next year there will be even more satellites up there, Linear and FM,
maybe it is time to have ARRL eliminate the 100 point bonus and that will
cause many of the folks just trying for that 100 points to just not try. 
That would take some of the load off the FM birds.  I will still be there on
the linear satellites even without the bonus.



From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:09 PM
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???>; AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>;
Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler@???????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD



Excellent condensation of what we were saying Greg, not to mention the
additional concept of a net control getting extra points, as well as the
need for training.



Now--in a normal emergency net, a net control is pre-designated (I think). 
How do you think we could do that for FD while still being in the spirit of
"practice for the real thing"?    I have no good answer.



Good discussion!



Burns WB1FJ



On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???
<mailto:ko6th.greg@?????.???> > wrote:

Tossing in my $.02 here, for what it's worth...  TL:DR: it's not the rules,
it the training that we need to fix.

>From this chair, the issue isn't so much about the points as about getting
the most number of successful contacts through during the 24hr FD window. 
The premise of the single-QSO rule for FM birds is that the single channel
is a scarce resource, and we don't want any one op to hog it.  Limiting the
number of QSOs by any one operator gives more time for the rest.  Nice in
theory, but as we experience every year, this is ineffective in practice.  I
fact, I think it's possibly counter productive to the objective.  Let me
explain...

We see the effect all the time when checking into a net.  Net control calls
for checkins, and there's a roar of RF thrown at him/her from which some
morsel of a callsign is extracted.  Net control narrows the field down to
that morsel, and the process repeats until a single whole call is extracted
and logged, then on to the next person.

Now look at what happens if there is no net control.  At the end of a
contact, everyone throws their callsign out, but lacking a net control,
there is no clear process for extracting and filtering callsign morsels to
make a 2-way contact.  Instead of trying to succeed making a 1-to-n
connection, you're trying to create a winning pair out of an m-by-n zoo. 
Eventually timing (yes, a skill), luck, and big hammers (amplifiers) will
result in one of those m-by-n pairings to succeed, but it will take time. 
If the rules are constructed to remove the winning participants after every
successful contact, you are forcing that m-by-n chaos to repeat for every
contact.  I submit that this is nuts, given the limited time a satellite is
within view, the limited bandwidth (especially for FM birds), and with the
limited number of them that we have.

Rather, I think it would be better to encourage through the points system
and through documentation and training to let a net control role naturally
emerge.  The net control station gets some small additional benefit for
ascending to this role by the additional QSOs completed, and the overall
rate of QSOs completed goes up because you're back to a 1-to-n process, so
everyone wins in the end.  The process also helps develop the operator
skills of the net control role, just as it does when a station on HF "holds"
a frequency for a while during a contest.  If the station can't hold the
frequency, due to technique, equipment, or the loss of propagation at end of
a pass, net control will naturally pass to the next operator with the skill
and equipment to take on that role.

The current ARRL rules giving 100 points for the first contact, and 1 point
for each contact beyond that, are aligned with this strategy, though I think
that adjustments can be made to make it even better.  The single QSO rule
needs to be removed, and in its place should be a set of guidelines
(training) for good behavior.  These include the acknowledgment of the net
control role, and the documenting of the inefficiency that results when
there is a power struggle for net control.  In this regard, I think that
lowering the prize for additional contacts to 1 point for every two contacts
might be better.  We don't want the role to be so juicy that everyone fights
for it; better for some to take that 100 points for the first contact as a
check-in, and go somewhere else for the incremental ones.

Bottom line, EMike and others are on the right path with the net control
role, but we're missing the training aspect showing why it's a good idea,
and how to behave when you're net control, or just trying to check in.

Thoughts?

Greg  KO6TH







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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:14:08 -0400
From: Stephan Greene <ks1g04@?????.???>
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew)
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You wrote....<snip>
>
> After the chaos of AO-91, I prepped to get ready for CAS-4B at 1929z. This
> time, I pulled out the stops. I tuned up quickly at AOS, and started
> calling CQ with all the watts, smack dab in the middle of the passband.
> There were stations all around me, but none of them were hearing each
> other.. as opposed to them, I could actually hear.  I worked KB6LTY
> quickly, followed by WD9EWK, and then just kept following the bird east. 12
> minutes later I lost the bird behind some buildings after working a VE2. 14
> total stations logged, California to Quebec, in 1 pass. The crowd went
> nuts. I spent the next 2 hours showing local hams how to improve their
> arrows by using things like good coax, and a couple of the kids mentioned
> how sitting around with headphones turning dials was boring, but working
> satellites looked like fun. After that I packed up my stuff and headed back
> home, and didn't make another contact til after 1800z on Sunday.


For ops wanting to get more folks interested, THIS is the way to do it.
Excellent job!  I worked you (K4LRG) on that pass.  CAS-4A and B were our
best producers (26 and 20 QSOs), I think my best run of the weekend was 9
QSOs on 4B the following pass.

I shared a shelter with our GOTA station, and showed satellite ops to our
visitors, but not with THAT degree of success.

73 Steve KS1G


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:13:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM sats and FD
Message-ID: <829444606.2253260.1529972035624@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 An easy solution to this is to have ARRL Field Day not count satellite QSOs
(on the FM birds or otherwise) for QSO points. Has anyone from AMSAT
approached the ARRL Field Day committee about this??

Another easy solution is to move AMSAT Field Day to another day. Then there
will be much less competition for the limited FM satellite resources and
both Field Days would benefit.?

73, Ryan AI6DO

    On Monday, June 25, 2018, 4:55:23 PM PDT, tjschuessler@???????.???
<tjschuessler@???????.???> wrote:

 Yes the rules do definitely state the 1 contact rule for FM satellites.?
What you do here are operators who still try to rack up multiple contacts on
the FM sats during FD and that only adds to the overload problem.? My point
was that since it is a "Honor system" type of thing.? Someone running 150
watts into a decent beam can easily make multiple QSOs on an FM FD pass and
all his QSOs still count for point (1 point only, but points just the same)
and in ARRL FD rules, there is no way to disincentivize those operators from
doing that.? Now since the AMSAT rules do ask you to list contacts by
satellite, it is easy to see if someone is running more than one contact on
an FM bird.? We won't see that reflected in ARRL rules so no use getting to
hyped up over the issue.

There really will never be a good solution to this.? Just hope that more
stations get on the linear birds during FD, and than everyone can have lots
of fun with lower frustration levels and more completed contacts.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:11:05 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day
Message-ID:
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Does anyone have any audio of the passes when AO-92 was in L-band they
can share? I'm curious what calls I recognize and what I don't. I
still need to get an antenna for that band. I have the IC-910H with
the L-band module.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> Well, this certainly was more fun than last year.
>
> So, "fun" has various definitions...  Making contacts via satellite,
> unfortunately, was not among them for our club, W6EK, this year.
>
> This was our first "serious" attempt to get a satellite contact during
> Field Day.  I, the "satellite guy", arrived at our Field Day site armed
> with my trusty FT-736R and its 1.2 ghz module, 17-turn helix antenna,
> Elk (plus an Arrow from another club member), and sufficient
> pass-prediction IT infrastructure to start my own data center, fully
> expecting to Ka-Ching! 100 points into the coffer within 10 minutes of
> Field Day starting.  Got all set up, double-checked where North was
> (hind-sight, we were still wrong, but it didn't matter).  Then I looked
> at the S-meter.  The meter was indicating 20-over-9 noise over the
> entire 2 meter band.  And, I'm going to hear a sub-one-watt signal from
> a thousand miles away in space?  Yeah, right.
>
> Taking a sweep of the area, it appeared the noise peak was from a set of
> power lines that ran along one side of the Field Day site.  I
> repositioned as far away as I could, but was still looking at several
> S-units of noise, depending on where the antennas pointed.  Since many
> (most) of the satellites have their downlinks on 2 meters, this would
> set the theme for the event.  How to defeat the noise?
>
> I'll spare you the lengthy saga.  Bottom line, we were able to hear a
> few of the passes of a few of the satellites, for a few brief moments of
> clarity, but never could get through.  Not enough power on the FM birds,
> nor apparently even on the linear ones either.  While I did hear myself
> (barely) on FO-29, a complete contact was not to be made.  We did get a
> good pass at AO-92's Model L/v in the late evening, aiming away from the
> power lines, but it was so loaded with doubles that we couldn't get
> through.  Good to know that Mode L still has a strong installed base
> among hams, I suppose, but that didn't help our immediate problem.
>
> Our overall points strategy also included doing some Winlink packet
> messaging, but being 2-meter-based, that was thwarted too.  In the end,
> I did manage to get a couple of messages out via APRS (shorter packets,
> better infrastructure, UI-based protocol, equals better chances),
> entered via the keypad of my Kenwood TH-D74.  I think we can at least
> claim those.
>
> Strategy for next year?  Perhaps an alternate site (the HF teams were
> somewhat affected too), or better antennas (narrower beamwidth, more
> side rejection), more power, and perhaps a chain saw for the
> enticingly-wooden utility poles.  Just kidding on that last one...
>
> So, Drew and the AO-92 control ops, thank you for the opportunity to
> give L/v a shot.  It certainly appears that it was a popular mode, and
> well worth the off-cycle mode switch.  Maybe next year...
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:17:02 -0400
From: Stephan Greene <ks1g04@?????.???>
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Kudos
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I handled satellite ops for K4LRG (Loudoun Amateur Radio Group, LARG).
Nice hilltop location at Franklin Park in Purcelville VA,excellent coverage
to the south and east, decent to the west, and some trees to the north.
1st QSO was VE3YRA on 1st Ukube-1 pass, last a Brazil station on AO-7 just
before 1800 UTC.  About 135 QSOs before I remove AMSAT dupes.  This is
about double what we did last year; very happy about it.  I'd like to give
kudos to folks who stood out in my mind over the weekend:

- The ops at W5RRR (JSC club).  QSOs on 7 birds, CAS-4A @ 1539 6/24 UTC was
VERY SPECIAL.  A young man who is very interested in ham radio at the
mike.  You were his 1st satellite QSO, and he was double excited when I
told him where you were.  You made this kid's day!  Thank you sirs.

- K4BFT and VE3YRA - you guys were everywhere with solid signals.  We
worked BFT on 11 satellites (missed AO-7) and YRA on 10 (missed AO-7,
AO-73).  We worked several other stations with great signals on multiple
satellite, these 2 stood out in my mind.

- N8HM.  Paul, how you do it with 2 817s (fully manual) and hand-held
antenna continues to amaze.  Thanks for the QSOs.

- The ops on an early Sunday FM satellite pass (I forget which one).  You
were remarkably disciplined, even by FD standards.

- The many ops who stayed with us to complete a QSO despite QRM, low
elevation angles, jumpy AO-73 transponder, or insufficient caffeine in me
on Sunday morning.  My apologies to anyone I stepped on or became "that op."

- Customer support at Yaesu in California.  Murphy struck on Thursday; I
broke a cross boom U-bolt on my rotator while getting ready.  I called
Yaesu; their customer service rep checked with their technician and they
shipped a replacement to me.  Which arrived Saturday! (I was worried it
would not arrive in time and found a substitute locally that worked OK for
FD).  Excellent customer service.

The number of satellites this year made for interesting times when one pass
started while another was underway.  We had QSOs on every CW/SSB or
FM-capable satellite except AO-7 Mode A and AO-92.  Weather was very wet
(rained all day Friday and showers on Saturday) and a severe t-storm 1 hr
after shutdown on Sunday (2 shelters damaged but no injuries thankfully!).
All the satellite QSOs and Sunday gorgeous sunrise and morning made up for
it.  I still need to get digital modes working (can copy NO-84 and FS-3 but
don't have uplink working) and build an L-band antenna for AO-92.  And not
wait until early June 2019 to get started!

73 de KS1G (K4LRG op)


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:39:22 -0500
From: MrToby <mrtoburen7@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew)
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James, I don't take exception with anything you have said. I would rather
operate linear SATs anyhow.  What bothered me about FD and generally any
day, very few if any of them are worked using CW.  CW is easier to copy and
I think SAT exchanges during FD or otherwise would be faster and more
efficient.

If I could wish for one thing, that would be it, everyone try making CW
contacts via SAT!

Marshall, AA0FO (em29)

>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:40:26 -0500
From: David Swanson <dave@?????????????.???>
To: David Bartholomew <dgbartholomew@?????.???>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@?????.???????? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew)
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Thanks David - that was my goal. 73s my friend.

-Dave, KG5CCI

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:07 PM, David Bartholomew <dgbartholomew@?????.???>
wrote:

> For Dave KG5CCI, I read through the whole thing you wrote and I cannot
> fault you at all. You did the right thing all the way through.
> I guess it all depends on the situation.
> Maybe by next year I hope to be better skilled on linear sats.
> Thanks and 73, Dave AD7DB
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:58:29 -0500
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@???.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 218
Message-ID: <176652d6-4ede-0b23-4070-fae8eba5d0d1@???.???>
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Paul,

According to the 2018 ARRL Field Day rules:

 ?? 7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing
at least one
 ?? QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period.
Satellite QSOs
 ?? also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately on
the summary
 ?? sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional bonus
for contacting
 ?? different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be counted for
QSO credit
 ?? unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1. The QSO must be between two
Earth stations
 ?? through a satellite. Available to Classes A, B, and F.
 ?? 7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single
channel FM
 ?? satellite.

I was suggesting a change in the rules that the additional QSOs, at
least on the
FM birds, would not be counted for QSO credit.? That might result in
stations
getting the bonus and getting off, unless they wanted to help other
stations to
get their bonus.? Of course, you'd think that limiting acceptable QSOs
to one per
FM satellite would have the same affect.? Apparently not, it seems.? I
guess some
stations didn't read the rules very closely.

73,

Mac / AE5PH

On 06/25/2018 06:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> The rules already limit FM QSOs to one.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 01:21 Mac A. Cody <maccody@???.???
> <mailto:maccody@???.???>> wrote:
>
>     Greg,
>
>     Yeah.? Icertainly wouldn't make the bonus too much larger than 100
>     points.? Don't know how one would penalize for multiple QSOs. You
>     might make the one you need and then another station would call you.
>     I'd keep it at only one QSO allowed for the bonus and nothing more.
>     This would allow for a station to work others to help them get their
>     bonus, too, but only if that station wanted to help.? My guess is that
>     a lot of stations would bow out once they got their one QSO. That, I
>     hope, would free up the FM satellites fairly quickly.
>
>     Mac / AE5PH
>
>     On 06/25/2018 12:01 AM, Greg D wrote:
>     > The Winter FD event is new, and has a much smaller participation
>     > compared to the summer event.? I don't think what worked for the
>     winter
>     > event can scale to the summer one.? Imagine the chaos that would be
>     > caused by having a large prize awarded for a satellite contact
>     in the
>     > summer event, causing a correspondingly large number of
>     participants to
>     > attempt a contact.? It would certainly bring additional
>     attention and
>     > interest in making a satellite contact; perhaps too much.
>     >
>     > But, your point about not having additional points awarded is good;
>     > perhaps even take away points for multiple contacts on the FM birds.
>     >
>     > Greg? KO6TH
>     >
>     >
>     > Mac A. Cody wrote:
>     >> One alternative for scoring could be to adopt the approach used for
>     >> Winter Field Day.? For Winter Field Day, a station can net a
>     1500-point
>     >> bonus for one satellite QSO.? There are no additional points for
>     >> subsequent QSOs.? Not saying that 1500 points would be awarded for
>     >> an ARRL Field Day satellite QSO, but more than 100 points.
>     >>
>     >> 73,
>     >>
>     >> Mac Cody / AE5PH
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>     >>> AO-92 FM on FD... what a mess, wish it was in L-band today..
>     >>> , perhapswould be better to score points just for listening
>     ONLY and
>     >>> getting call sign's + exchange from the bird to get more operators
>     >>> HEARING the bird and less trying to transmit without? being
>     able to
>     >>> hear it...say 1 point for each callsign and exchange
>     monitored..and
>     >>> 2 for each qso after the first one.... something to get guys
>     >>> listening more and less trying to key them up ( perhaps for first
>     >>> time... ) just a thought...ko6kLaudio recording.
>     >>>
>    
http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-24-1800z--AO92-FM-Uv--CQFD-mess-ko6
kL-cm97-hamsatchat-wav-8m53sec-.wav
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>    
http://www.valleymedia.org/satchat/2018-06-23-2033z-sat-Ao-91-cq-fd-mess-ham-w
av-.wav
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:05:51 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reply to WD9EWK question ref. FalconSat-3 on Field
Day
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Unfortunately, FalconSat-3's passes didn't line up
with my time in northern Arizona. I wonder if anyone made
QSOs through that digipeater.

Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK

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Patrick's question above is from another thread that got long, so I thought
I'd reply as a new message since this is a specific topic.

I don't know if there were any true 2-way APRS exchanges on FS-3 during
Field Day, but I did download an FD-related BBS message from KB6LTY and on
the following pass, my reply to her was uploaded to the satellite.  That's
not a QSO, but just wanted to mention it since not everyone sees the
postings on FS-3's BBS.

Can't post an image with this message, but here's a link if anyone would
like to see what a BBS message on FS-3 looks like:

http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/kb6lty-msg.png

As for regular APRS packets, I wasn't awake when W4LHS (COASTAL AMATEUR
RADIO SOCIETY, Savannah, GA) was active via FS-3's packet digipeater, but
my K4KDR-15 iGate heard them being digipeated.  So, their APRS traffic was
relayed to aprs.fi.

Here is a link to a screen shot of those packets:

http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/w4lhs-1--igate.png

So, it was nice to see at least some Field Day traffic relayed through
FalconSat-3.

73!

-Scott,  K4KDR


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