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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Eric Fort)
2. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(Scott Medbury)
3. Audio file to .kss file - part 2 (Hans BX2ABT)
4. ANS-198 SPECIAL BULLETIN: 2018 Corrected Board of Directors
Ballots (E.Mike McCardel)
5. Re: Completed QFH Ant project - WB1FXX (Richard Tejera)
6. Re: Additional comments on VHF QHA antenna project
(Richard Tejera)
7. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Mike Diehl)
8. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(Stefan Wagener)
9. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(E.Mike McCardel)
10. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(E.Mike McCardel)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:44:44 -0700
From: Eric Fort <eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???>
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@??????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
Eric
Af6ep
Sent using SMTP.
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is
> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots
> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the
> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps
> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last
> year.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> AL6D/VE6NJH
>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
wrote:
>>
>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA
>> office will not be counted.
>>
>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>
>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>
>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>
>> 73,
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:42:34 -0500
From: Scott Medbury <smedbury@??????????.???>
To: k6fw1@???????.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <36.E5.09716.FEE7E4B5@??????.????.???.????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
These errors seem to be increasing in frequency.
Scott KD5FBA
Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Jul 17, 2018 5:53 PM, Frank <k6fw1@???????.???> wrote:
>
> I hope the error was the printing company's and that they are paying for
> the printing and mailing the second time.? That would be fair.
>
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
> On 7/17/18 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote:
> > How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization
is
> > having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots
> > to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
the
> > organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps
> > such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
last
> > year.
> >
> > 73,
> > Gabe
> > AL6D/VE6NJH
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
wrote:
> >
> >> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
> >> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
> >> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA
> >> office will not be counted.
> >>
> >> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
> >> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
> >>
> >> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> >> Tom Clark, K3IO
> >> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> >> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >> Peter Portanova, W2JV
> >>
> >> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
> >> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
> >> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Clayton
> >> W5PFG
> >> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:41:54 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to .kss file - part 2
Message-ID: <3c3ebbdb-4e63-1e46-6d1d-4d6bb61df9a6@???.?????.???>
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I got one step further, but haven't succeeded yet. I have some recorded
telemetry from XW2D and the decoded program from DK3WN up and running on
Linux using Wine. The telemetry program needs a .kss file to give some
useful data.
This is how far I got:
1) run a PulseAudio null sink with this command: pactl
load-module-null-sink sink-name=virtual-cable
2) play the audio with Audacity
3) run Dire Wolf
4) use pavucontrol to set the output (Playback tab) for Audicity and the
input (Recording tab) for Dire Wolf to the null sink
5) Dire Wolf will now happily take the audio from Audacity, which you
can see by checking the VU meter in pavucontrol
That's it.
Dire Wolf has the -l command line option to set a directory for log
files, but no option to set the file name or any other hint on how to
save data as a file. I know it is mainly used as a pipe to decoding
programs, but what is the option to save to file? It is not always
feasible to decode from a live signal, so what I try to achieve is to
decode from recorded material. Any hints appreciated.
73 de Hans
BX2ABT
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:02:11 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-198 SPECIAL BULLETIN: 2018 Corrected Board of
Directors Ballots
Message-ID:
<CAM5+sou46gBehPo0yMXyBF1c_U_79Woh8xgUewWytU=3LMuoqw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-198 SPECIAL BULLETIN: 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
In this edition:
* 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-198.01
ANS-198 SPECIAL AMSAT News Service Bulletin
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 198.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
July 17, 2018
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-198.01
2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots To Be Mailed
Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-
NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018
have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
AMSAT-NA office will not be counted.
New ballots labeled "CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018" and printed on
yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
Tom Clark, K3IO
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
Peter Portanova, W2JV
The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving
the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
[ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for the above
information]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:13:17 -0700
From: Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro@???.???>
To: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>, 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Completed QFH Ant project - WB1FXX
Message-ID: <x4ht6ixhbg6kt5oup680jepb.1531876397451@?????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Nice, is that based on the plans in a recent issue of QST?
Whatvfrequency is it cut for? Most folks build them for 137kHz to receive
the NOAA ad sats.
Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
On July 15, 2018, at 14:48, Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
Hello Sat Heads
Just wanted to "share" a project I just finished. It was a really fun VHF
satellite antenna project. Great looking and NO "pointy" antenna elements
to poke You in the Eye.
Here's the kink to the photo:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CAfYxyosnRe3c3zVA
Best to the Sat community. WB1FXX
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:18:57 -0700
From: Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro@???.???>
To: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>, 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Additional comments on VHF QHA antenna project
Message-ID: <8vrga94ccv06dyvkwxevxtj3.1531876582769@?????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
You should be able to access the article on line from the ARRL website.
A good resource for those wanting to build one at a different frequency is
here:
http://jcoppens.com/ant/qfh/calc.en.php
Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
On July 16, 2018, at 13:32, Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
Hello again, Sat Heads - WB1FXX
I had quite a few comments/questions on this antenna.
First : I have to give a HUGE "Shout-out" to David P. Finell, N7LRY for his
extremely concise article in the May, 2018 issue of QST. David is the 2nd
place winner in the 2017 QST Antenna Design Competition. He is "amazingly"
quick to answer my Emails with questions I had during the Project. Thank
You again, David.
I don't have a lot of performance reports yet. My Sat Shack is down for
some house renovations. The station is under plastic sheets.
Yes, It's a pretty exacting build. David does most of the dimensions in MM
/ CM . I had to "re-calibrate" my brain for the metric system. I'll never
go back to inches / feet.
I had a great time building the antenna. It WAS a challenge to my
metalworking skills. Installing the "phasing harness" was the toughest
part. Very small space to work in.
Patience Preservers. Take your time, walk away when You get frustrated and
"admire" your progress.
As an "aside", my YL, K3FXX said it's the coolest antenna I've built, which
is many. Calls it "A work of Art". I agree.
I hope all can find the QST article and consider building one. Maybe David
will "weigh-in" and provide a copy of the article to the Amsat group.
Best to Group - WB1FXX
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:42:08 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: Eric Fort <eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as
your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print with
anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a
voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for
QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort
<eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>
> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>
> Eric
> Af6ep
>
> Sent using SMTP.
>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:
>>
>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is
>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots
>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the
>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps
>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last
>> year.
>>
>> 73,
>> Gabe
>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA
>>> office will not be counted.
>>>
>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>
>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>
>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Clayton
>>> W5PFG
>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:48:15 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAmg74QVU4pyH4pzYC53q6fkVOTQQ13T+B6ZtO12-6Hkw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Thank you Mike!
There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
73, Stefan VE4NSA
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a
> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for
> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>
> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID
>
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
> >
> > Eric
> > Af6ep
> >
> > Sent using SMTP.
> >
> >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
> organization is
> >> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
> ballots
> >> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
> the
> >> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
> mishaps
> >> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
> last
> >> year.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Gabe
> >> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
> >>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
> >>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
> AMSAT-NA
> >>> office will not be counted.
> >>>
> >>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
> >>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
> >>>
> >>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> >>> Tom Clark, K3IO
> >>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> >>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> >>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
> >>>
> >>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
> >>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
> >>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Clayton
> >>> W5PFG
> >>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>> expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:52:54 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
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While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting?
EMike
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Thank you Mike!
>
> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
>
> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a
>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for
>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>>
>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Af6ep
>>>
>>> Sent using SMTP.
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
>> organization is
>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
>> ballots
>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
>> the
>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
>> mishaps
>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
>> last
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Gabe
>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
>> AMSAT-NA
>>>>> office will not be counted.
>>>>>
>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>>>
>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Clayton
>>>>> W5PFG
>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:06:53 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
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These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That
said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to
me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for
now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow.
EMike
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???> wrote:
>
> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting?
>
> EMike
>
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Mike!
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
>>
>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options
to a
>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW
for
>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>>>
>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Mike Diehl
>>> W8LID
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
>>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>> Af6ep
>>>>
>>>> Sent using SMTP.
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
>>> organization is
>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
>>> ballots
>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
>>> the
>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
>>> mishaps
>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
>>> last
>>>>> year.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Gabe
>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
>>> AMSAT-NA
>>>>>> office will not be counted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Clayton
>>>>>> W5PFG
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> program!
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