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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Mike Diehl)
2. Misassembled May/June Journal (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
3. Re: Misassembled May/June Journal (Dino Papas)
4. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Jerry Buxton)
5. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(Tucker McGuire)
6. Re: Audio file to .kss file - part 2 (Scott)
7. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Frank)
8. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
(Gabriel Zeifman)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:16:43 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <AEDB3700-4577-4FFA-B053-EF2DBDC12FED@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Absolutely, nobody ever questioned the short term solution. Online voting
seems like the obvious choice in the future though.
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 22:06, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???> wrote:
>
> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That
said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to
me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for
now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow.
>
> EMike
>
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting?
>>
>> EMike
>>
>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Mike!
>>>
>>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
>>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
>>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options
to a
>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
>>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW
for
>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>>>>
>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Mike Diehl
>>>> W8LID
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
>>>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> Af6ep
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent using SMTP.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
>>>> organization is
>>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
>>>> ballots
>>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
>>>> the
>>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
>>>> mishaps
>>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
>>>> last
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
>>>> AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>> office will not be counted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Clayton
>>>>>>> W5PFG
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:25:52 -0400
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV <glennmaillist@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal
Message-ID: <5dc5734a-5156-7e25-2f1b-0a73a0b6852e@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing
and others duplicated and out of order and others missing.
Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem?
Thanks
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
--
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Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417
Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@????.??? AMSAT LM 2178
QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI LM NRA LM SBE ARRL TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:32:36 -0400
From: Dino Papas <kl0s@???.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal
Message-ID: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the
reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a
replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request
a replacement.
73 - Dino KL0S
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV
<glennmaillist@?????????.???> wrote:
>
> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and
others duplicated and out of order and others missing.
> Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem?
>
> Thanks
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:02:21 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <f9b1cb10-856f-c0c5-5e36-f063600e2ec4@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website,
regarding voting.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote:
> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That
said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to
me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for
now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow.
>
> EMike
>
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting?
>>
>> EMike
>>
>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Mike!
>>>
>>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
>>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
>>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options
to a
>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
>>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW
for
>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>>>>
>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Mike Diehl
>>>> W8LID
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
>>>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> Af6ep
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent using SMTP.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
>>>> organization is
>>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
>>>> ballots
>>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
>>>> the
>>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
>>>> mishaps
>>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
>>>> last
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
>>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
>>>> AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>> office will not be counted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Clayton
>>>>>>> W5PFG
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:17:18 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@???????????.???>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID:
<CA+gmQJSM_XkNKUagpWZeR0fWC-d+Z1uWGZ2FrDJrwb8po+Y+RA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I would also encourage the AMSAT-NA BOD to consider amending the bylaws,
regarding voting.
73,
Tucker
W4FS
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???> wrote:
> I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website,
> regarding voting.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote:
> > These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That
> said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to
> me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for
> now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization
> grow.
> >
> > EMike
> >
> > EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice
> voting?
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thank you Mike!
> >>>
> >>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
> >>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more,
> secure
> >>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to
> print
> >>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some
> options to a
> >>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient,
> you
> >>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like
> LOTW for
> >>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
> >>>>
> >>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking?
> the
> >>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>> Mike Diehl
> >>>> W8LID
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
> >>>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
> >>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack
> the
> >>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior
> to
> >>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
> >>>>> Eric
> >>>>> Af6ep
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent using SMTP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <
> gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
> >>>> organization is
> >>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
> >>>> ballots
> >>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would
> save
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
> >>>> mishaps
> >>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots
> like
> >>>> last
> >>>>>> year.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 73,
> >>>>>> Gabe
> >>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <
> tasmac@?????.??>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to
> AMSAT-NA
> >>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018
> have
> >>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
> >>>> AMSAT-NA
> >>>>>>> office will not be counted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
> >>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> >>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
> >>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> >>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> >>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving
> the
> >>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
> >>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 73,
> >>>>>>> Clayton
> >>>>>>> W5PFG
> >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>>>> expressed
> >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions expressed
> >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >>>> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:22:34 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Audio file to .kss file - part 2
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnOZPYpzCyMDypYKa4sD_SmLetc=sHxHSAZyYXVxRKkuArQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I work some with telemetry decoding in both linux & Windows, but have never
produced .KSS files in linux.
If you have Wine installed to run the DK3WN decoder anyway, then the
easiest path might be to play your audio file in Windows, feed the output
to the appropriate UZ7HO software modem, and use Mike's "AGW Online Kiss"
program which is at:
http://www.dk3wn.info/files/agw_online_kiss.zip
... you'll be left with a .KSS file which of course is what you're looking
for to use in the decoder.
Not a "linux" solution, but the DK3WN decoders are Windows apps and I find
them easiest to use with other Windows software. In contrast, decoders
that run in GNU Radio on linux tend to be more compatible with output
formats that we get from various linux programs.
-Scott, K4KDR
==========================
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
wrote:
> I got one step further, but haven't succeeded yet. I have some recorded
> telemetry from XW2D and the decoded program from DK3WN up and running on
> Linux using Wine. The telemetry program needs a .kss file to give some
> useful data.
>
> This is how far I got:
>
> 1) run a PulseAudio null sink with this command: pactl
> load-module-null-sink sink-name=virtual-cable
>
> 2) play the audio with Audacity
>
> 3) run Dire Wolf
>
> 4) use pavucontrol to set the output (Playback tab) for Audicity and the
> input (Recording tab) for Dire Wolf to the null sink
>
> 5) Dire Wolf will now happily take the audio from Audacity, which you can
> see by checking the VU meter in pavucontrol
>
> That's it.
>
> Dire Wolf has the -l command line option to set a directory for log files,
> but no option to set the file name or any other hint on how to save data as
> a file. I know it is mainly used as a pipe to decoding programs, but what
> is the option to save to file? It is not always feasible to decode from a
> live signal, so what I try to achieve is to decode from recorded material.
> Any hints appreciated.
>
> 73 de Hans
>
> BX2ABT
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:24:51 -0700
From: Frank <k6fw1@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <30bc382c-ec95-f2fb-90a8-8203986c4349@???????.???>
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Bylaws can be changed to allow other forms of voting besides mail in
ballots.? All is takes is 2/3 of the Directors to vote to amend the
bylaws to allow electronic ballots.? This topic should be on the agenda
for the annual meeting in November 2018.
Frank Westphal, K6FW
On 7/17/18 9:02 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website,
> regarding voting.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote:
>> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That
said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to
me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for
now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow.
>>
>> EMike
>>
>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting?
>>>
>>> EMike
>>>
>>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Mike!
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great
>>>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more,
secure
>>>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to
print
>>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options
to a
>>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient,
you
>>>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like
LOTW for
>>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
>>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Mike Diehl
>>>>> W8LID
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
>>>>> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
>>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
>>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
>>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> Af6ep
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent using SMTP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman
<gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
>>>>> organization is
>>>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
>>>>> ballots
>>>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would
save
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
>>>>> mishaps
>>>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
>>>>> last
>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018
have
>>>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
>>>>> AMSAT-NA
>>>>>>>> office will not be counted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
>>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
>>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
>>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
>>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
>>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
>>>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
>>>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>> Clayton
>>>>>>>> W5PFG
>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>> program!
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions expressed
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>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>> program!
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>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> _______________________________________________
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> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:09:31 -0800
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
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Mike,
I disagree. I think mailing anonymous postcards on stock paper I can buy at
Office Depot is superior in every way. First of all, 128-bit encryption is
very succeptible to hacking by people trying to sabotage our small
non-profit's election. Second, I think most of our members enjoy getting
out, going to the post office, buying a stamp, and praying that USPS
manages to get it there on time and in one piece. Not only that, but when a
member accidentally does not receive a ballot, they simply cannot vote,
which weeds out the non-dedicated members. The obvious choice for an
organization looking to move forward and into the future is paper, forever.
73,
Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 5:42 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure
> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print
> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a
> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you
> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for
> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
>
> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the
> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID
>
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <
> eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the
> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to
> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
> >
> > Eric
> > Af6ep
> >
> > Sent using SMTP.
> >
> >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
> organization is
> >> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper
> ballots
> >> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save
> the
> >> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent
> mishaps
> >> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like
> last
> >> year.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Gabe
> >> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
> >>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have
> >>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the
> AMSAT-NA
> >>> office will not be counted.
> >>>
> >>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
> >>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
> >>>
> >>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> >>> Tom Clark, K3IO
> >>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> >>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> >>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
> >>>
> >>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
> >>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate
> >>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Clayton
> >>> W5PFG
> >>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>> expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
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> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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