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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Jerry Buxton)
   2. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
      (Mark L. Hammond)
   3. Re: New Software Tool for Verifying If Roving Locations Are
      Within Your VUCC Circle (Milen KG2C)
   4. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots

      (E.Mike McCardel)
   5. 67 Hz filter (Ashhar Farhan)
   6. Re: 67 Hz filter (Zach Metzinger)
   7. Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots (Glen Zook)
   8. pictures from satellites (skristof@???????.????
   9. Re: pictures from satellites (Mike Diehl)
  10. Re: pictures from satellites (skristof@???????.????


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:09:31 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <a922d441-27a7-0cc1-aba1-aacea1889ef4@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

True, and like it or not, "not everybody has email".

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 7/18/2018 11:54, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't
> have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something
> like that.



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:10:07 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>,	AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	"E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>,	Gabriel
Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
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<CAPRXzypAZyDwiRzfqcpVdUEOxZrNL0LQ4saSU-XffPAE+4FnLQ@????.?????.???>
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Paul hits on a real issue-making sure that folks have a chance to vote,
regardless of media type.

As mentioned already in this thread, and from my perspective as a Board
member now up for election renewal--rest assured that a well researched
written proposal for something like moving to electronic voting would be
given a good fair and full review by the Board and Officers.  There are
many points being brought up in this thread right now--but suggesting a
change that requires a change to the by-laws of an organization should
obviously be well researched and reviewed.   It'll take a good amount of
time and thought, certainly worth doing for something so important to an
organization.

73,

Mark N8MH

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:

> Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't
> have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something
> like that.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Eric Fort
> <eric.fort.listmail@??????????????.???> wrote:
> > Perhaps there is a happy medium here. How about emailing the ballot as a
> pdf to each member. If necessary each pdf could be encoded slightly
> different (possibly serialized) for each member. It is then up to the
> member to print and mail the return ballot. If one wanted to squabble over
> postage that can be printed as well. The key to this is that the info that
> identifies the unique ballot is not linked in any way to the member it was
> sent to but the member can verify from the serial number that is known only
> to them that the ballot was received and counted.
> >
> > Eric
> > Af6ep
> >
> > Sent using SMTP.
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce
> the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am
> aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable
> cost.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Gabe
> >> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems
> to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front
> cost verses ?free? power down the road.
> >>> If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own
> time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a
> cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even
> for lower cost in the future?
> >>> Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a
> satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both
> software and social.
> >>> I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of
> electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit

> more complicated and costly than one might think.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>> EMike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger <devin@????????.???>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing
> them *correctly* is not.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> >>> > email: devin@????????.???
> >>> > web: Devin on Earth
> >>> > cell: +1 425.239.2575
> >>> >
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Eric Fort
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM
> >>> >> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
> >>> >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <tasmac@?????.??>; AMSAT Mailing List
> >>> >> <amsat-bb@?????.???>; Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
> Ballots
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind
> the
> >>> >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter
> only casts
> >>> >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is
> the paper ballot
> >>> >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature
> and
> >>> >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that
> one and
> >>> >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then
> separated
> >>> >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the
> voter. In the
> >>> >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and
> verifiablity
> >>> >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire
> papers
> >>> >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact
> thing. Do
> >>> >> the research.  Paper verified ballots really are the only way.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Eric
> >>> >> Af6ep
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sent using SMTP.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more,
> secure as
> >>> >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to
> print
> >>> >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some
> options to a
> >>> >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more
> convenient, you can
> >>> >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW
> for
> >>> >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people
> ?hacking? the
> >>> >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> 73,
> >>> >>> Mike Diehl
> >>> >>> W8LID
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort <eric.fort.listmail@
> fortconsulting.org>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to
> ?hack the
> >>> >> vote?.   It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught
> prior to
> >>> >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Eric
> >>> >>>> Af6ep
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Sent using SMTP.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman
> >>> >> <gabrielzeifman@?????.???> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented
> >>> >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail
> two
> >>> >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that
> >>> >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting
> >>> >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and
> prevent
> >>> >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> 73,
> >>> >>>>> Gabe
> >>> >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG
> >>> >> <tasmac@?????.??> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to
> >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on
> July
> >>> >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots
> >>> >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
> >>> >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> >>> >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO
> >>> >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> >>> >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> >>> >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >>> >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates
> receiving
> >>> >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two
> >>> >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of
> >>> >> votes received.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> 73,
> >>> >>>>>> Clayton
> >>> >>>>>> W5PFG
> >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >>> >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> >>> >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author,
> and
> >>> >>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
> satellite
> >>> >> program!
> >>> >>>>>> Subscription settings:
> >>> >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >>> >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> >>> >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author,

> and do
> >>> >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> >> program!
> >>> >>>>> Subscription settings:
> >>> >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >>> >> available
> >>> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not
> reflect the
> >>> >> official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> >> program!
> >>> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> >>
> >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>> >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views
> >>> >> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> >> program!
> >>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:20:36 -0400
From: Milen KG2C <milen.bourilkov+amsatbb@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New Software Tool for Verifying If Roving
Locations Are Within Your VUCC Circle
Message-ID:
<CA+oUq1ih9TxZ2Kedguxqj2xhQwymnSm-3KOYsQXq1mxDWaWrZA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi Ron,

That's a nice tool but it is a pity that it requires people to have Python
installed, as this is beyond what most people do with their computers.
I decided to make it more accessible by writing something similar in Python
that runs in Windows, has a decent-enough GUI. It requires only that the
files be extracted using a self-extracting archive and then running the
kg2c_vucc.exe application.
I've compiled it using 64bit Windows 10, so it won't work for 32bit Windows
operating systems. If there's any interest I can see about compiling it for
32bit Windows.
It can be downloaded from https://goo.gl/dc7948
Btw I used your haversine(lat1, lon1, lat2, lon2) function so distance
calculations will be the same.

Best wishes,
Milen KG2C

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Ron Bondy via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> I have written a software tool in Python for determining if a set of local
> rover locations (specified in decimal degrees latitude and longitude) are
> all within 200km of each other.  I used this for myself to determine which
> of my local roving locations were within my 200km VUCC circle.
> The script uses the Haversine method for determining the distance between
> two locations on the earths surface, assuming the earth has a constant
> radius.  References are given in the readme.txt file provided below in the
> DropBox folder.
> It's a good planning tool too; if I'm going to go roving to a new local
> spot then I'd prefer to rove to a location within my VUCC circle so my
> contacts count toward my VUCC award totals.
> This is a Python script that is run from the command line, so I'm sorry
> but there is no user interface.  If you're not sure what the command line
> is and you've never heard of the Python programming language this software
> tool is probably not for you.
> You can download the files here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xkvbaj41060h4vy/AAC0n_D3uDAjEgWwcwxxxjnba?dl=0
>
> The DropBox folder contains the Python script, along with
> ad0dx_vucc_circle.txt, the file with my roving locations to give you an
> example of how to use the script.
> A readme.txt file is provided to give some more background and also a
> results file with the results from using the script on my roving locations
> file.  You could examine the results file to determine if you think this
> Python script might be useful to you.
> Another great application is to put all your local WalMart's in the file
> to confirm if those WMPLOTA locations count toward your VUCC totals.
> Currently only latitude and longitude in decimal degrees are supported for
> locations.
> I haven't actually found the center of my own VUCC cirle at this point,
> but the tool has let me confirm and investigate all the locations I use for
> roving.  It turns out for me that the DM68 69 78 79 four corner grid is in
> my circle as well as the location I operate from on the DM 88 89 grid
> line.  My qth is in DM78 and is close to 39N latitude so DM79 is just a few
> miles north of me.  The tool has shown me that I can also include DM77 in
> my VUCC circle, so that gives me a lot of options for roaming and counting
> grids towards my VUCC award.
> If you have any questions or comments please contact me off list at ad0dx
> at yahoo dot com.
> Thanks and 73's,
> Ron, ad0dx
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:49:58 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: "Samudra Haque [TTLLC]" <sehaque@??????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <098508D8-EC44-4BA9-9888-8D63B75159A6@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I believe that presenting an online method of printing a new ballot could
easily result in stuffing the ballot box.
Under the circumstances a new ballot is really the only way to maintain any
control.
Too bad the inconvenience, too bad the cost.
I applaud the Directors for taking prompt action.

EMike

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2018, at 2:52 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC]
<sehaque@??????????.???> wrote:
>
> Hmmm. Why would a completely separate mailing, at additional production
and mailing cost,  be necessary to correct mis-printed  ballots?
>
> Conventionally If there are known errors (errata) of a publication, often
the authors issue a notice and direct readers to download/print out the
notice for their own use. Later those edits/changes are inserted in the next
edition.
>
> As long as the notice is properly authorized,  widely distributed (web,
e-mail should be fine - after all that is how AMSAT membership is managed),
then anyone who wants to vote, only needs to follow the errata instructions
(e.g., "print out the new ballot form", "modify line 1: omit 'xxx' and
insert 'yyy') on the ballot they have received, and then they can go ahead
and walk to the post office, put on a stamp and post it. That would be the
equivalent of writing in candidates if a voting system allows it, and their
names are not on the official ballot for some reason votes.
>
> I vote in IEEE and AIAA groups, so what would be the advantage (other than
following SOP another expensive paper ballot) - that doesn't preclude the
risk of making another mistake in preparing the ballot. What would happen if
there is another mistake? Perhaps a THIRD ballot then?
>
> Seriously, a special resolution by AMSAT BOD at any meeting could solve
this issue. Disclaimer: I haven't read the by-laws but they can't possibly
be detailed enough to instruct a board how to handle bungled ballot cards (I
hope) in such a rigid manner.
>
> Apologies if I am wrong on the mechanism of votes.
>
> 73 de N3RDX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Clayton
Coleman W5PFG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:33 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots
>
> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA
members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been
declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office
will not be counted.
>
> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on
yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members.
>
> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates:
> Tom Clark, K3IO
> Mark Hammond, N8MH
> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> Peter Portanova, W2JV
>
> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.
>
> 73,
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be
privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named
addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly
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using any information contained within this communication. If you have
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or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of
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loss or damage caused by software viruses.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 00:13:57 +0530
From: Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter
Message-ID:
<CACUhZhW27g1PuM4S0JYy=e326KgBvtGTGy4QudWyLRnWZkb67g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying.
Is there anyway to easily filter it out?

- f


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:54:58 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter
Message-ID: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

On 07/18/18 13:43, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
> I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying.
> Is there anyway to easily filter it out?

How about a simple high-pass filter?

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_3.html

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:15:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@?????.???>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors
Ballots
Message-ID: <255974422.6714488.1531941308415@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The fact that not everyone has E-Mail or access to a computer necessitates
having a mail-in alternative to on-line voting.? It would not be that hard
to amend the by-laws to allow either method of voting.

Having a serial number on the mailing label of the newsletter allows either
method to be used without the expense of mailing ballots and the manpower to
tabulate the paper ballots.? Yes, there will still be a relatively few paper
type ballots sent in.? However, the small number of those ballots would be
easily handled by a single person.

All that would be involved is to come up with a computer program that
recognizes the serial number and that allows the serial number to be used
only 1-time.? I am sure that there are organization members who can write
such a program virtually blindfolded and at no cost to AMSAT.

I have been a member of AMSAT since the 2nd month of the establishment of
the organization and definitely am in favor of things that can reduce the
administrative costs of the organization.
?Glen, K9STH?

AMSAT 239 / LM063

Website: http://k9sth.net

      From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
 To: amsat-bb@?????.???
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots

True, and like it or not, "not everybody has email".



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:32:53 -0400
From: skristof@???????.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites
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I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the
same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using
WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear
to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the
synchronization tone?

I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every
once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92
(which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR#
waterfall does not disappear at those times.

When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off
anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing
changed.

My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update
that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus
features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and
how did you fix it?

All constructive suggestions will be appreciated.

Steve AI9IN

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:50:50 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: skristof@???????.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites
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Have you tried running the task manager to see what might be hogging
resources when you experience issues?

73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID

> On Jul 18, 2018, at 15:32, skristof@???????.??? wrote:
>
> I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the
> same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using
> WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear
> to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the
> synchronization tone?
>
> I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every
> once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92
> (which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR#
> waterfall does not disappear at those times.
>
> When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off
> anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing
> changed.
>
> My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update
> that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus
> features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and
> how did you fix it?
>
> All constructive suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> Steve AI9IN
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:25:09 -0400
From: skristof@???????.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites
Message-ID: <49b4ad593f8ca7df26610f8e1e1ee236@???????.???>
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Yes. There didn't seem to be anything except the VB virtual audio cable,
SDR#, and FoxTelem, as best I could tell.

On 2018-07-18 16:50, Mike Diehl wrote:

> Have you tried running the task manager to see what might be hogging
resources when you experience issues?
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID
>
>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 15:32, skristof@???????.??? wrote:
>>
>> I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the
>> same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using
>> WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear
>> to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the
>> synchronization tone?
>>
>> I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every
>> once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92
>> (which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR#
>> waterfall does not disappear at those times.
>>
>> When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off
>> anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing
>> changed.
>>
>> My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update
>> that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus
>> features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and
>> how did you fix it?
>>
>> All constructive suggestions will be appreciated.
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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