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Today's Topics:

   1. Terrestrial Data Transmission & 38K4 Baud satellite
      (Vincenzo Mone)
   2. Re: Terrestrial Data Transmission & 38K4 Baud satellite
      (jeff griffin)
   3. LVB Tracker For Sale (Tom Lubbers K8TL)
   4. SatPC32 Rotor Control Question (Richard Lawn)
   5. Re: portable ops (Robert Bruninga)
   6. Re: portable ops (Ryan Noguchi)
   7. meeting-point to spot rare grids and events on SATs
      (Juan Antonio Fernandez)
   8. Mounting Coax feed lines to Az/El rotator (Patrick Dohmen)
   9. Re: meeting-point to spot rare grids and events on SATs
      (Juan Antonio Fernandez)
  10. 2018 AMSAT Symposium Second Call for Papers (Daniel Schultz)
  11. OpenLST  "an open radio solution" ? (Butch)
  12. Decoding the data from the XW satellites (Ross Biggar)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 15:10:37 +0200
From: Vincenzo Mone <cencinoit@?????.???>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Terrestrial Data Transmission & 38K4 Baud
satellite
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Guys, hope in an help.
I have mounted the 38k4 Baud into my Kenwood TS-2000X.It has been mounted
from the technical that make the 38k4 baud board.
When I saw the radio after the modifications I have noticed that, he has
used for the RX and TX connections the ACC2 Connector.
Now I have two ACC cables that I have to keep plugging and unplugging. I
mean when I have to do Terrestrial data communications

like RTTY BPSK Packet etc. I have to use the old ACC2 cable, When I have to
use the 38k4 I have to use the new one.

Anybody can suggest me a way to avoid to plug and unplug the cables when
necessary?
Any help will be really appreciated.





73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 10:28:29 -0400
From: "jeff griffin" <kb2m@????.???>
To: "'Vincenzo Mone'" <cencinoit@?????.???>,	"'Amsat - BBs'"
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Terrestrial Data Transmission & 38K4 Baud
satellite
Message-ID: <008f01d42cc8$950178d0$bf046a70$@???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Years ago when I modded my FT-847 to RX 38k4 baud from the pacsats I left
everything connected and used a simple multi pole switch to go back and
forth. I had everything wired to the same ACC jack. I still have my Symek
38k4/9k6 TNC3S, but no receiver to go with it if anyone is interested :-)

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Vincenzo
Mone
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 9:11 AM
To: Amsat - BBs
Subject: [amsat-bb] Terrestrial Data Transmission & 38K4 Baud satellite

Guys, hope in an help.
I have mounted the 38k4 Baud into my Kenwood TS-2000X.It has been mounted
from the technical that make the 38k4 baud board.
When I saw the radio after the modifications I have noticed that, he has
used for the RX and TX connections the ACC2 Connector.
Now I have two ACC cables that I have to keep plugging and unplugging. I
mean when I have to do Terrestrial data communications

like RTTY BPSK Packet etc. I have to use the old ACC2 cable, When I have to
use the 38k4 I have to use the new one.

Anybody can suggest me a way to avoid to plug and unplug the cables when
necessary?
Any help will be really appreciated.





73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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      ******   GSM  +39 328 7110193  ******

      *****     SMS  +39 328 7110193    *****

      *********************************



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:17:50 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Tom Lubbers K8TL <k8tl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker For Sale
Message-ID:
<1638503307.3702.1533500270751@???????????.???.??.?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

No longer using the LVB Tracker.  Thought would ask here before going to
E-BAY  k8tl@?????????.???


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:48:37 -0400
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Rotor Control Question
Message-ID:
<CADQmrTF_CoYbXGOtkeaOigGUecBwKpNb0btbeSQMBzbXOw75mg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm using a G5400B for portable operation and controlling things with
SatPC32. The rotor interface is an older FoxDelta serial port version which
is using the EasyComm protocol. My question concerns the software in
SatPC32, specifically the carriage return/line feed specification. Should
either of these be checked in the rotor control aspect of SatPC32?

73
Rick, W2JAZ


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 19:36:30 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] portable ops
Message-ID:
<CALdCfNKKvXLPQgx5OQK0r_vRU079r+XLmTJe7Q57XVg26E_BCw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm not following the thread, but are you using the THD74 in SSB receive
mode on the linear sats?

Neat
Bob, WB4APR

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

>  Seems like most portable ops are using a second FT-817 to receive for
> operating the linear sats. I started out with a Kenwood TH-F6A, which I
> found marginal for this purpose. Then one of my Elecraft KX3s got the 2m
> transverter module and got used for only a month before being replaced by a
> Kenwood TH-D74A just after Field Day. The TH-D74A has been working out very
> well for me so far. From a portability perspective, I think the TH-D74A is
> tough to beat, especially since it's also usable for packet satellite QSOs
> and has a very convenient integrated audio recorder. I find I get quite a
> bit of desense on FO-29 with my pedenstrian-portable setup using the Elk
> antenna, but not with the Arrow II, nor with any of the Mode B birds.
>
> I know some have been using SDRs with tablets or notebook computers, but I
> think that approach will generally be heavier and less conveniently
> portable than a single TH-D74A. That may not be important if you don't
> operate pedestrian-portable, as I do. The SDR approach offers the advantage
> of providing a panadapter capability, which was one of the two reasons I
> wanted to use the KX3 (and PX3 panadapter) as a receiver. (The other was to
> provide a much more sensitive receiver than the TH-F6A it replaced,
> although the TH-D74A is a close second.)  Unfortunately, having the PX3
> connected resulted in total desense of the KX3. Also, the KX3 was quite
> heavy and awkward to mount for pedestrian-portable use, compared to the
> TH-D74A.
>
> Around the same time, I also replaced the FT-857D with a FT-818ND, which
> has been also working out well. The only down side has been losing the
> ability to crank the power up to 11 (watts) to get into AO-85 more
> reliably.
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
>
>     On Saturday, August 4, 2018, 11:52:48 AM PDT, James Brown <
> jimki6wj@?????????.???> wrote:
>
>   Need to get active again on sats. Was last using  a single ft-817 for
> portable ops  both  fm  and ssb.Could use input on the latest trends such
> as a sdr for receive or back to a second ft-817.Also thinking of trying
> raspberry Pi over laptop. What would be best portable set up.
> Jim KI6WJ
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 01:39:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] portable ops
Message-ID: <2114676657.2467126.1533519591774@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Yes, and I find the TH-D74A works very well as a receiver for the linear
satellites. The Elecraft KX3 has greater sensitivity if the preamp is
enabled, but at the expense of deafening background noise. In contrast, the
TH-D74A has very little background noise in SSB mode, so copy is much more
"comfortable."?
The tuning knob is much easier to control than that of the TH-F6A, with much
less frequent inadvertent turning of the concentric audio volume knob while
tuning. Even when I do accidentally turn the audio volume knob while tuning,
audio level is unaffected when using the Bluetooth earpiece, which I find
works very well for SSB, not so well for FM.?
This is a link to a description and photo of my pedestrian-portable radio
setup:?https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/kenwood-th-d74a-for-satellite-
work.540096/page-11#post-4746587
I also hope to use the TH-D74A much more frequently for packet work once ISS
and BIRDS-2 are operational.?


73, Ryan AI6DO



    On Sunday, August 5, 2018, 4:36:33 PM PDT, Robert Bruninga
<bruninga@????.???> wrote:

 I'm not following the thread, but are you using the THD74 in SSB receive
mode on the linear sats?
NeatBob, WB4APR

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

?Seems like most portable ops are using a second FT-817 to receive for
operating the linear sats. I started out with a Kenwood TH-F6A, which I
found marginal for this purpose. Then one of my Elecraft KX3s got the 2m
transverter module and got used for only a month before being replaced by a
Kenwood TH-D74A just after Field Day. The TH-D74A has been working out very
well for me so far. From a portability perspective, I think the TH-D74A is
tough to beat, especially since it's also usable for packet satellite QSOs
and has a very convenient integrated audio recorder. I find I get quite a
bit of desense on FO-29 with my pedenstrian-portable setup using the Elk
antenna, but not with the Arrow II, nor with any of the Mode B birds.?

I know some have been using SDRs with tablets or notebook computers, but I
think that approach will generally be heavier and less conveniently portable
than a single TH-D74A. That may not be important if you don't operate
pedestrian-portable, as I do. The SDR approach offers the advantage of
providing a panadapter capability, which was one of the two reasons I wanted
to use the KX3 (and PX3 panadapter) as a receiver. (The other was to provide
a much more sensitive receiver than the TH-F6A it replaced, although the
TH-D74A is a close second.)? Unfortunately, having the PX3 connected
resulted in total desense of the KX3. Also, the KX3 was quite heavy and
awkward to mount for pedestrian-portable use, compared to the TH-D74A.?

Around the same time, I also replaced the FT-857D with a FT-818ND, which has
been also working out well. The only down side has been losing the ability
to crank the power up to 11 (watts) to get into AO-85 more reliably.?

73, Ryan AI6DO



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:54:41 +0200
From: Juan Antonio Fernandez <ea4cyq@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] meeting-point to spot rare grids and events on
SATs
Message-ID:
<CA+5nehNbQt-p5EmkAszL7Q5NUO9mkPRJiBq5jpmUN8O5mX_Jtw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Information and its organization is a relevant issue nowadays where so many
webs, whatsapp groups, twitter, etc., supply us with interesting news.



I think AMSAT needs a meeting-point on his web where whatever ham can spot
its portable/event  activation, so will not need to subscribe to several
webs, forums, whatsapp groups and twitter.



We only need to visit the web of AMSAT each moornig to see the folllowing
rare grids or events activations during the day.



I hope to see it some day.



73, Juan Antonio

EA4CYQ


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 14:21:20 +0200
From: Patrick Dohmen <dl4pd@????.??>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mounting Coax feed lines to Az/El rotator
Message-ID: <4474876d-d354-b97c-779e-9f734f6d27c4@????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hey all,

Nearly one year ago I installed two cross-yagis on a Hummel Teletower
with a YAESU G5400B rotator system. I have made a lot of thoughts on how
to "wind" the coaxial feed lines around both: the azimuth and also the
elevation axis. With elevation I am very fine, but maybe this is just a
matter of time as it seems to be with azimuth!

Some days ago I found some flipping faint/strong signals on my SatNOGS
station (https://network.satnogs.org/stations/37/) in the 2m band. First
I thought this could be some kind of frontend-overloading with the RF
amplifier, but it turned out: this is not!

Today I ran some tests while driving the antenna with my YAESU FT-847 at
minimum output power (around 1.5W). I could see that with elevation
rotation everything is fine from 0? to 180? el. Then I tried to turn the
azimuth and - guess what? - SWR "jumps" at around 270? from 1.1 to >4!
That truely indicates a broken cable.

As I installed that wires, I made a short connection of flexible coax
cable (HIGHFLEXX 7) from the phasing line box, down the mast and made a
connection to ECOFLEX 15 running into the shack. The flexible lines are
"wrapped" around the azimuth pipe with a radius of around 30cm. I am not
sure, but it could be broken just on top of the N-connector... Do I need
to somehow support that short piece of wrapped line?

Any hints on how to mount the cables to prevent this are really appreciated!


Kind regards,

Patrick, DL4PD



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 14:40:17 +0200
From: Juan Antonio Fernandez <ea4cyq@?????.???>
To: kk5do@????.???? AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] meeting-point to spot rare grids and events on
SATs
Message-ID: <8A74FA1E-8057-40FC-8662-021DF1D2B189@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Yes...,

But I was thinking on something more visual, such as a calendar with a bar
diagram covering all days of the activation. Something similar to the
calendar of the Outlook. Each activaron a bar.

And clearly seeing the call sign and grid. Even we could filter by FM SAT,
SSB SATs or both.

With a nice tool and a simple sight with colours more people will use it and
it will be really a meeting-point for all of us.

And even each person could configure its own filters, perhaps only
activations with couverture USA-EU.

Imagination takes lead!

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ


> El 6 ago 2018, a las 14:20, Bruce <kk5do@????.???> escribi?:
>
> Here you go. Been in use for several years.
>
> https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/
>
> 73...bruce
>
>> On 8/6/2018 2:54 AM, Juan Antonio Fernandez wrote:
>> Information and its organization is a relevant issue nowadays where so many
>> webs, whatsapp groups, twitter, etc., supply us with interesting news.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think AMSAT needs a meeting-point on his web where whatever ham can spot
>> its portable/event  activation, so will not need to subscribe to several
>> webs, forums, whatsapp groups and twitter.
>>
>>
>>
>> We only need to visit the web of AMSAT each moornig to see the folllowing
>> rare grids or events activations during the day.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope to see it some day.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Juan Antonio
>>
>> EA4CYQ
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>                     AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
>  ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>          Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
>              Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> http://www.arrl.org
>
> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
>


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 11:51:32 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 AMSAT Symposium Second Call for Papers
Message-ID: <583wHFPYG7824Set.1533570692@?????.???.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

This is the second call for papers for the 2018 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and
Space Symposium to be held at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville AL
on the weekend of November 2 - 4. Proposals for papers, symposium
presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest
to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your
presentation as soon as possible. The final copy must be submitted by October
15th for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be
sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv(at)amsat.org

73,
Dan Schultz  N8FGV



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:17:48 -0400
From: Butch <occamrazr@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] OpenLST  "an open radio solution" ?
Message-ID: <6E735C64-61DA-4D8B-BD28-7C5012023A36@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Anyone have any info/background/experience with this?

https://www.planet.com/pulse/planet-openlst-radio-solution-for-cubesats/
<https://www.planet.com/pulse/planet-openlst-radio-solution-for-cubesats/>

 Butch K8KO

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 01:02:59 +0000
From: Ross Biggar <ross.biggar@???????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding the data from the XW satellites
Message-ID:
<BN6PR2201MB1298DC5CA0AA2BED1175E558F7200@???????????????.????????.????.??????
?.???>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Can someone please send me details as to where or how I can find data on
receiving/decoding  the  9k2 /19k6 data from the XW satellites.

I can receive them perfectly,  but what software do I need to decode the
data and importantly what settings should I use in the software . Si far I
have tried HS_sound modem without any sucess.


Thanks

Ross

ZL1WN


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