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Today's Topics:
1. Re: BIRDS-2 digipeater (Jean Marc Momple)
2. Re: BIRDS-2 digipeater (alex weimer)
3. BIRDS-2 Digipeters (alex weimer)
4. Re: SiriusSat-1/SiriusSat-2 Information (Stewart Morgan)
5. Re: BIRDS-2 Digipeters (Jean Marc Momple)
6. IC-9100 cross band (Bob- W7LRD)
7. analog the hard way (Ron VE8RT)
8. Re: analog the hard way (Koos van den Hout)
9. Re: analog the hard way (Scott)
10. Re: analog the hard way (Ron VE8RT)
11. Re: analog the hard way (Ron VE8RT)
12. Re: analog the hard way (Jim Walls)
13. Re: analog the hard way (Ron VE8RT)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:44:58 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@?????.??.??>
Cc: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 digipeater
Message-ID: <861E95C7-D49E-4B86-B467-4D3E159E31D6@?????.???>
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Nitin,
I confirm receiving both Bhutan-1 and UitmSat-1 fine this side but not Maya-1.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Noted & thanks for the info.Will try again Jack. I am based in Bangalore
and not affected by the floods but it is a very grim situation in the state
of Kerala and in parts of my state as well.
> 73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
> On Sunday, 19 August, 2018, 9:24:16 PM IST, alex weimer
<ingejack@???.???> wrote:
>
> MAYA-1 was not transmitting however the other 2 sats were very strong
here.. I think they are still testing the digipeaters .. Hope the floods are
not getting your area 73 JACK KC7MG
>
>
> On August 19, 2018 at 11:49 AM Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@?????.??.??> wrote:
>
> Tried today over India but was unable to hear. I was using an arrow
antenna. Will try with a higher gain antenna soon.
> 73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
> On Sunday, 19 August, 2018, 8:24:49 PM IST, alex weimer
<ingejack@???.???> wrote:
>
> Birds-2 digipeaters beacons on this morning at 1444 UTC however only
BHUTAN-1 and UiTMSAT were transmitting beacons. MAYA-1 was not on !! Great
signals even at a max 13 degree elevation here in DM42 grid JACK KC7MG
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 12:47:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@?????.??.??>, Jean Marc Momple
<jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 digipeater
Message-ID: <235149813.5333769.1534697271302@???????.???.???>
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Same here !! Evidently they have turned MAYA-1 off for some reason !! Hope
they turn the digipeaters on for use soon.. 73 Alex JACK KC7MG
By the way they have the 3 satellites listed in AMSAT satellite status page
now !!
> On August 19, 2018 at 12:44 PM Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > > Nitin, > > I
confirm receiving both Bhutan-1 and UitmSat-1 fine this side but not Maya-1.
> > 73 > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > > > On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Nitin Muttin
via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > Noted & thanks for the info.Will try again Jack.
I am based in Bangalore and not affected by the floods but it is a very grim
situation in the state of Kerala and in parts of my state as well. > > 73 >
> Nitin [VU3TYG] > > > > On Sunday, 19 August, 2018, 9:24:16 PM IST, alex
weimer wrote: > > > > MAYA-1 was not transmitting however the other 2 sats
were very strong here.. I think they are still testing the digipeaters ..
Hope the floods are not getting your area 73 JACK KC7MG > > > > > > On
August 19, 2018 at 11:49 AM Nitin Muttin wrote: > > > > Tried today over
India but was unable to hear. I was using an arrow antenna. Will try with a
higher gain antenna soon. > > 73 > > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > > > On Sunday, 19
August, 2018, 8:24:49
PM IST, alex weimer wrote: > > > > Birds-2 digipeaters beacons on this
morning at 1444 UTC however only BHUTAN-1 and UiTMSAT were transmitting
beacons. MAYA-1 was not on !! Great signals even at a max 13 degree
elevation here in DM42 grid JACK KC7MG > >
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:24:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Digipeters
Message-ID: <1479818658.1735751.1534613088123@???????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Last pass at 1704 UTC they had the digipeater beacon for BHUTAN-1 turned on.
The callsign is BIRDBT. Last pass they had all three digipeater beacons
turned on UiTMSAT and MAYA callsigns are both BIRDMY
Signals were exceptional using a Baofeng FP8 HT for the downlink... Of
course the M2 yagis didn't hurt either.
Hopefully they will release the sats for general use among amateurs soon.
73 JACX KC7MG DM42 Arizona
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 12:32:58 +0000
From: Stewart Morgan <morgan_st@????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SiriusSat-1/SiriusSat-2 Information
Message-ID:
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SPUTNIX has added a Linux version of the SPUTNIX Telemetry Viewer for
SiriusSat-1/SiriusSat-2:
Download SPUTNIX Telemetry Viewer (Linux Russian, 21.7 MB):
http://sputnix.ru/tpl/docs/SX-TLM-Viewer-0.0.0-linux64-ru.tar.gz
Download SPUTNIX Telemetry Viewer (Linux English, 21.7 MB):
http://sputnix.ru/tpl/docs/SX-TLM-Viewer-0.0.0-linux64-en.tar.gz
Source:? http://sputnix.ru/en/satellites-en/siriussat-1-en
Telemetry has been received from both satellites according to Russian
language posts at https://vk.com/sputnixru.? Ground stations are
preparing to command the satellites.
Todd
AL0I
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:08:59 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Digipeters
Message-ID: <59DBA85B-EA95-408B-9366-A87631B5D9E2@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Alex,
Will check this side at next pass. Thanks for the info.
73
Jean Marc (3B8du)
> On Aug 18, 2018, at 9:24 PM, alex weimer <ingejack@???.???> wrote:
>
> Last pass at 1704 UTC they had the digipeater beacon for BHUTAN-1 turned
on. The callsign is BIRDBT. Last pass they had all three digipeater beacons
turned on UiTMSAT and MAYA callsigns are both BIRDMY
>
> Signals were exceptional using a Baofeng FP8 HT for the downlink... Of
course the M2 yagis didn't hurt either.
>
> Hopefully they will release the sats for general use among amateurs soon.
73 JACX KC7MG DM42 Arizona
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 cross band
Message-ID: <1956721995.437187.1534710704320@???????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi
anyone use a IC9100 - will it operate hf to vhf (mode A)
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:42:26 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <20180819144226.82ef4574aa47878ed8f8bce6@?????.??>
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Fortunately I'm far enough north that I can work at, and mess up a
bit, getting into the analog sats while I have the footprint all to
myself for part of some passes.
Making slow progress, I've been working at this for a long time,
getting back on the satellites. Trying to do it with older equipment
is challenging.
The radio is a FT-726R (no CAT provision) so Doppler correction is
manual. The antenna pair are a helix on 435 and 8 element quad on 2M.
on a 10M (33 ft) tower. Elevation is fixed at about 25 degrees,
rotator is Ham IV (I need to move the rotator controller closer - it
weighs less than the radio). I can copy, without preamps, satellites
on both bands down to about 1.5 degrees above the horizon.
Software is GPredict (OS is Elementary, Linux).
Yes, lots of complications as I can't manage everything fast enough,
so I'm looking to simplify things one at a time.
First, I need to get the actual Doppler shift info up on a screen as
I must enter is manually. Using the Doppler per 100MHz shown on
GPredict which a calculator to set the radio works but is far from
practical. I'd like to bring up actual Uplink, Downlink Doppler on the
screen, but it hasn't been evident how to do that. GPredict maybe
isn't the right solution, as I remember it was available in the DOS
Instant Track.
Then maybe an Arduino controller for the antenna pointing.
With better organization of the shack I think it would work. The
longer term goal is to get familiar with digital satellites.
I'd like some help, starting maybe with the Doppler display problem.
Thanks,
Ron VE8RT in DP22
--
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:57:45 +0200
From: Koos van den Hout <koos@??????.??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <05b3b817-4815-051b-e7ad-536029088b50@??????.??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 08/19/2018 10:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> First, I need to get the actual Doppler shift info up on a screen as
> I must enter is manually. Using the Doppler per 100MHz shown on
> GPredict which a calculator to set the radio works but is far from
> practical. I'd like to bring up actual Uplink, Downlink Doppler on the
> screen, but it hasn't been evident how to do that.
GPredict will show these values in the 'radio control' window. Even when
there is no radio to control.
Clicking on the little triangle on the top right of the main window will
show options like 'radio control' if you had not found that already.
Koos van den Hout PE4KH
--
Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 via keyservers
https://idefix.net/
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:08:17 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnOb0-XjrzoqHPwGDPy5iaGtoku5UfmoL=UgcV7psJSXizg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
If you have Windows available, Orbitron has a nice display of
doppler-corrected frequencies.
Here is a screen shot just as an example:
http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/orbitron-doppler.png
... Orbitron is available from:
http://www.stoff.pl/
-Scott, K4KDR
=================================
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Koos van den Hout <koos@??????.??????.??>
wrote:
> On 08/19/2018 10:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
>
> > First, I need to get the actual Doppler shift info up on a screen as
> > I must enter is manually. Using the Doppler per 100MHz shown on
> > GPredict which a calculator to set the radio works but is far from
> > practical. I'd like to bring up actual Uplink, Downlink Doppler on the
> > screen, but it hasn't been evident how to do that.
>
> GPredict will show these values in the 'radio control' window. Even when
> there is no radio to control.
>
> Clicking on the little triangle on the top right of the main window will
> show options like 'radio control' if you had not found that already.
>
> Koos van den Hout PE4KH
>
> --
> Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 via keyservers
> https://idefix.net/
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:41:30 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <20180819154130.3f4617d26788752f6604f409@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Missed that somehow this morning. Still must manually enter the
frequencies but the displayed Doppler corrected frequencies are big
enough. Tried it on a pass of XW-2F, it was manageable as I could
leave the antenna alone for a while. Could hear myself without
"hunting" for the downlink signal.
Thanks,
Ron
On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:57:45 +0200
Koos van den Hout <koos@??????.??????.??> wrote:
> On 08/19/2018 10:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
>
> > First, I need to get the actual Doppler shift info up on a screen as
> > I must enter is manually. Using the Doppler per 100MHz shown on
> > GPredict which a calculator to set the radio works but is far from
> > practical. I'd like to bring up actual Uplink, Downlink Doppler on the
> > screen, but it hasn't been evident how to do that.
>
> GPredict will show these values in the 'radio control' window. Even when
> there is no radio to control.
>
> Clicking on the little triangle on the top right of the main window will
> show options like 'radio control' if you had not found that already.
>
> Koos van den Hout PE4KH
>
> --
> Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 via keyservers
> https://idefix.net/
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:42:38 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <20180819154238.fc7dfffde4264f27cc67ab5d@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I used Orbitron years back, I thought it was no longer supported. It
may be an answer if it will work in "WINE" Very nice to use, and
familiar software.
Thanks,
Ron
On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 17:08:17 -0400
Scott <scott23192@?????.???> wrote:
> If you have Windows available, Orbitron has a nice display of
> doppler-corrected frequencies.
>
> Here is a screen shot just as an example:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/orbitron-doppler.png
>
> ... Orbitron is available from:
>
> http://www.stoff.pl/
>
> -Scott, K4KDR
>
> =================================
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Koos van den Hout <koos@??????.??????.??>
> wrote:
>
> > On 08/19/2018 10:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> >
> > > First, I need to get the actual Doppler shift info up on a screen as
> > > I must enter is manually. Using the Doppler per 100MHz shown on
> > > GPredict which a calculator to set the radio works but is far from
> > > practical. I'd like to bring up actual Uplink, Downlink Doppler on the
> > > screen, but it hasn't been evident how to do that.
> >
> > GPredict will show these values in the 'radio control' window. Even when
> > there is no radio to control.
> >
> > Clicking on the little triangle on the top right of the main window will
> > show options like 'radio control' if you had not found that already.
> >
> > Koos van den Hout PE4KH
> >
> > --
> > Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 via keyservers
> > https://idefix.net/
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:50:09 -0700
From: Jim Walls <jim@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <73feb020-85d8-47d8-5eb1-f2866d5fc401@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 8/19/2018 1:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> Fortunately I'm far enough north that I can work at, and mess up a
> bit, getting into the analog sats while I have the footprint all to
> myself for part of some passes.
<snip>
Welcome to the analog sats world.? Here's my opinion.? With a little
practice, you will find that you can manually deal with the doppler
quite easily.? In my couple thousand contacts on analog satellites, I
almost never let the computer control the frequencies.? I was running
one step above you with an early Yaesu FT-736, so one way only CAT
control.? I found that controlling the frequency from the keyboard to be
a royal pain in the ass.? I did however have the computer control the
antenna pointing.? I was running 22 elements of crossed yagi on 2M, 40
elements of crossed yagi on 430, and a 2 x 3 foot offset dish for 2.4
GHz, so elevation and azimuth control were a requirement.? Having the
computer take card of that task simplified things for me.
--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:11:17 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] analog the hard way
Message-ID: <20180819161117.54a59b8ef0123985d113033d@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Thanks Jim,
I started off in the early 90's with a Ten Tec 2510 :-) I'm using
the same Helix antenna that I've dragged through every move since.
From what I've read the practice has changed a little, we aim for a
constant frequency at the transponder input.
The parts, for the most part, are here to make an Arduino controller
for the rotator. The Doppler correction is now manageable, as long as
I enter the right figures into the GPredict calculator.
I'll poke away at this, and getting some current QSL cards printed
(I do that and paper log books).
Ron
On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:50:09 -0700
Jim Walls <jim@?????.???> wrote:
> On 8/19/2018 1:42 PM, Ron VE8RT wrote:
> > Fortunately I'm far enough north that I can work at, and mess up a
> > bit, getting into the analog sats while I have the footprint all to
> > myself for part of some passes.
> <snip>
>
> Welcome to the analog sats world.? Here's my opinion.? With a little
> practice, you will find that you can manually deal with the doppler
> quite easily.? In my couple thousand contacts on analog satellites, I
> almost never let the computer control the frequencies.? I was running
> one step above you with an early Yaesu FT-736, so one way only CAT
> control.? I found that controlling the frequency from the keyboard to be
> a royal pain in the ass.? I did however have the computer control the
> antenna pointing.? I was running 22 elements of crossed yagi on 2M, 40
> elements of crossed yagi on 430, and a 2 x 3 foot offset dish for 2.4
> GHz, so elevation and azimuth control were a requirement.? Having the
> computer take card of that task simplified things for me.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim@?????.???
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
> _______________________________________________
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