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Today's Topics:
1. Re: BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater (Robert Bruninga)
2. Re: ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue (John Brier)
3. Re: ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue (Zach Metzinger)
4. Re: BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater (Scott)
5. Re: ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue (John Brier)
6. Re: ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue (Don KB2YSI)
7. DM 07/08 Rove (Bob Keating)
8. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-08-24 05:00 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
9. OSCAR NEWS - Issue 223 (Graham Shirville)
10. Problems posting (Bob Keating)
11. Re: DM 07/08 Rove (Alan)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:47:25 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
Message-ID: <c451459387e1971fc5c72acaece04867@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
That audio sounds like something is sending a regular repeating packet
once every 3 seconds. Sounds too regularly spaced for randome user
packets. That is a pretty high load on the 145.825 channel if it is doing
that 24/7 around the world.. But maybe it is over a ground station and is
downlinking data. Then it is OK. But if it is so weak, it probably is
not a problem... Bob, WB4aPR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:56 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
Same here. I've monitored numerous passes and the SNR is just too low.
Here's a tweet I just posted w/ a link to how the audio sounded at my end:
https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1032716322679996421
... setup is a 2m X-Quad w/ AZ/EL tracking. Both UZ7HO Soundmodem &
Direwolf (iGate) are using the audio from my TM-V71A which does very well
with PSAT, FalconSat-3, & terrestrial 1200 packet. Of course worked great
with the ISS digipeater also.
So, they've just got too little RF power, deviation, antenna... or
something.
By the way, the 70cm CW beacons continue to operate on 437.375 & they are
pretty strong.
-Scott, K4KDR
==============================
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Frank G <wa2ndv@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi Roy,
>
> Im using the Sound Modem by UZ7HO and UISS vers 5.4 that I used on ISS
> passes and can monitor local APRS traffic.
> Antenna is dual band Jetstream fixed at 25 deg elevation on AZ rotor.
> Setup works great on all the linear and FM sats but wanted to try
> something new.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
> WA2NDV
>
> From: Roy Dean
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:39 PM
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
>
> My D72/Elk was able to decode a few packets from each of the
> callsigns, but not display them as they appear to be non-standard APRS
> format (like the PSAT beacons).
>
>
> The ISS packets were very strong compared to these, so that could be
> one reason. What antenna/transceiver/tnc are you using?
>
> --Roy
>
> K3RLD
>
> Wondering if its just me or does it seem like the deviation is low on
> these
> > sats. I can not distinguish which one I am hearing since I can not
> > decode anything yet. I used to copy the ISS packets no problem. BTW
> > has anyone heard any FM voice beacons ? Thanks Frank WA2NDV
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:48:35 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue
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If you're just trying to confirm that some data audio outs on analog radios
provide the spectrum FoxTelem needs, I can confirm they do.
I made a cable to get the data pin from my Kenwood TM-V71 and it worked.
The only issue I had is neither my Olympus or Zoom H1 audio recorders
captured that low frequency audio. I had to route the audio to the line in
on a 10 year old laptop to get the low end needed for FoxTelem, but it did
work.
I used this to decode the majority of the first and second images AO-92
transmitted.
If on the other hand you're curious if some Icom radios provide the low end
audio and hoping that means the 9100 will as well, carry on.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 16:09 Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I have a IC-746PRO. If I can get a little time, I'll try decoding this
> with my rinky-dink antenna setup using the 9k6 output on the back of the
> rig.
>
> ... and I'll write Santa for a IC-9100 :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:13:14 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue
Message-ID: <201fcc8d-9a70-28d1-e48b-2a0ea3c04efb@?????.???>
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On 8/23/18 3:48 PM, John Brier wrote:
> If on the other hand you're curious if some Icom radios provide the low
> end audio and hoping that means the 9100 will as well, carry on.
I wonder if I could get a grant to do this most important research... :-)
(I'm sure they'd let me keep the radio, right?)
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:22:44 -0400
From: "Scott" <scott23192@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
Message-ID: <1E0DC948107E4BE4995B86D3DDB696A9@???????>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original
Hi Bob!
The packets were indeed spaced out way more than on the recording. I
removed the gaps between each packet to make the recording shorter.
73!
-Scott, K4KDR
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:47 PM
To: Scott ; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
That audio sounds like something is sending a regular repeating packet
once every 3 seconds. Sounds too regularly spaced for randome user
packets. That is a pretty high load on the 145.825 channel if it is doing
that 24/7 around the world.. But maybe it is over a ground station and is
downlinking data. Then it is OK. But if it is so weak, it probably is
not a problem... Bob, WB4aPR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:56 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
Same here. I've monitored numerous passes and the SNR is just too low.
Here's a tweet I just posted w/ a link to how the audio sounded at my end:
https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1032716322679996421
... setup is a 2m X-Quad w/ AZ/EL tracking. Both UZ7HO Soundmodem &
Direwolf (iGate) are using the audio from my TM-V71A which does very well
with PSAT, FalconSat-3, & terrestrial 1200 packet. Of course worked great
with the ISS digipeater also.
So, they've just got too little RF power, deviation, antenna... or
something.
By the way, the 70cm CW beacons continue to operate on 437.375 & they are
pretty strong.
-Scott, K4KDR
==============================
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Frank G <wa2ndv@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi Roy,
>
> Im using the Sound Modem by UZ7HO and UISS vers 5.4 that I used on ISS
> passes and can monitor local APRS traffic.
> Antenna is dual band Jetstream fixed at 25 deg elevation on AZ rotor.
> Setup works great on all the linear and FM sats but wanted to try
> something new.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
> WA2NDV
>
> From: Roy Dean
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:39 PM
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BIRDS-2 Packet digipeater
>
> My D72/Elk was able to decode a few packets from each of the
> callsigns, but not display them as they appear to be non-standard APRS
> format (like the PSAT beacons).
>
>
> The ISS packets were very strong compared to these, so that could be
> one reason. What antenna/transceiver/tnc are you using?
>
> --Roy
>
> K3RLD
>
> Wondering if its just me or does it seem like the deviation is low on
> these
> > sats. I can not distinguish which one I am hearing since I can not
> > decode anything yet. I used to copy the ISS packets no problem. BTW
> > has anyone heard any FM voice beacons ? Thanks Frank WA2NDV
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:40:13 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKOuVn_sBoEPWHoJPT=Bhe6fByggN_LxiHmH+s=eTK5Ejw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
LOL. You wish. :-)
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 17:14 Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
> On 8/23/18 3:48 PM, John Brier wrote:
> > If on the other hand you're curious if some Icom radios provide the low
> > end audio and hoping that means the 9100 will as well, carry on.
>
> I wonder if I could get a grant to do this most important research... :-)
>
> (I'm sure they'd let me keep the radio, right?)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 19:56:39 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ao 92 fox satellite telemetry reception issue
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8OHMU1NitXkpzk1JeKVu2CWKTYzb=pdHyGPGh1-EFWqgA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Might as well aim for the ? IC-9700.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:41 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> LOL. You wish. :-)
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 17:14 Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > On 8/23/18 3:48 PM, John Brier wrote:
> > > If on the other hand you're curious if some Icom radios provide the low
> > > end audio and hoping that means the 9100 will as well, carry on.
> >
> > I wonder if I could get a grant to do this most important research... :-)
> >
> > (I'm sure they'd let me keep the radio, right?)
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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--
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:23:50 -0700
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM 07/08 Rove
Message-ID: <ad1a6410-ff42-72cb-4eab-0a3f09f9ff6d@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I will be in the Eastern Sierra next week working from DM-07. I plan to
work the AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92 passes on Aug. 27 at 11:55, 10:59 and
13:12 PDT respectively. I also plan to work the same satellites from the
DM-07/08 line on Aug. 31 at 10:39, 13:25 and 10:50 respectively. Then
again on Saturday, Sept.1 from the same location for their late morning
and afternoon passes. However, if the fish are biting, I will most
likely be holding my fishing pole instead of my antenna pole!
Hope to catch some of you on the birds.
73,
Bob, N6REK
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 00:43:31 -0400
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-08-24
05:00 UTC
Message-ID: <1656a3e97d4-1ebb-b906@?????????????.???.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-08-24 05:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Vidya Mandir Inter College, Meerut, India, telebridge via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
Contact was successful: Thu 2018-08-23 08:22:00 UTC 47 deg (***)
?
Glenden State School, Glenden, Queensland, Australia, telebridge via VK5ZAI
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-08-24 09:45:17 UTC 54 deg
See notes below for live stream.
?
Friedrich-Franz-Gymnasium Parchim, Parchim, Germany, direct via DC1RSN
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Contact is a go for: Sat 2018-08-25 09:52:16 UTC 58 deg
?
Shri Timli Vidyapeet, Devikhet, India, telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-08-27 08:06:33 UTC 88 deg via ON4ISS
?
Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal, NY, direct via K2ZRO
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-08-28 16:41:36 UTC 88 deg
?
Integrierte Gesamtschule Osterholz-Scharmbeck, Osterholz ? Scharmbeck,
Germany and Gymnasium Soltau, Soltau, Germany, direct via DN3HB and DN5ABG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Contact is a go for: Sat 2018-09-01 08:36:33 UTC 32 deg
?
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
?
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
?
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*
?
All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
?
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*
Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.
****************************************************************************
Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS???
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?
?
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:?
Francesco IK?WGF with 132
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 132 (***)
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Sergey RV3DR with 106
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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date
webpages?were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format?YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-08-23 05:00 UTC.? (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1245. (***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1194. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas
Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL?information may be found at:??
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?
ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS
****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-08-24 05:00 UTC. (***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp. 55 on orbit
Drew Feustel
Oleg Artemyev
Ricky Arnold KE5DAU
?
Exp. 56 on orbit
Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Sergei Propopev
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:47:45 +0100
From: Graham Shirville <graham@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR NEWS - Issue 223
Message-ID: <26993185-c209-d860-1ae0-27f578fdf22c@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Hi All,
The editors are starting to put together the next issue of the
AMSAT-UK's Oscar News quarterly magazine which will be published at the
end of September.
We always welcome articles - long or short, technical or not. We are
happy to include current operational reports as well as historical
reflections! With so many new spaceships carrying amateur radio having
been launched recently both into earth orbit and beyond, it is a busy
time and quite hard to stay up-to-date with everything. So if you can
help us we will be very grateful!
Simply send your copy or questions to on-editor@?????.??? and we will do
the rest.
Many thanks in advance
73
The editors
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:13:29 -0700
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Problems posting
Message-ID: <c2436e16-085c-cdd3-39b9-8fa25877a14e@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I attempted to post an email last night to the bulletin board regarding
my rove trip next week, but have not seen it appear on the bulletin
board. Why are my emails not getting posted to the board, I am an AMSAT
member and I do believe that I am registered on the board.
73,
Bob, N6REK
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:19:18 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Bob Keating'" <bkeating1954@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DM 07/08 Rove
Message-ID: <000001d43bbd$d3c50830$7b4f1890$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bob,
If this is the one you sent, it came through fine. I see you have a Gmail
account. They have a great "feature" in which mail you send does not get
echoed back to you from a mailing list since you have the original.
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Bob
<Keating
<Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 23:24 PM
<To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
<Subject: [amsat-bb] DM 07/08 Rove
<
<I will be in the Eastern Sierra next week working from DM-07. I plan to
<work the AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92 passes on Aug. 27 at 11:55, 10:59 and
<13:12 PDT respectively. I also plan to work the same satellites from the
<DM-07/08 line on Aug. 31 at 10:39, 13:25 and 10:50 respectively. Then
<again on Saturday, Sept.1 from the same location for their late morning
<and afternoon passes. However, if the fish are biting, I will most
<likely be holding my fishing pole instead of my antenna pole!
<
<Hope to catch some of you on the birds.
<
<73,
<
<Bob, N6REK
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
<expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-
<NA.
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<program!
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