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Today's Topics:

   1. SDX stops responding (Kevin Schuchmann)
   2. Current copy of Doppler SQF? (Mark D. Johns)
   3. DM07-DM08 Rove (Bob Keating)
   4. Re: WTB : AZ/EL Rotor (Don KB2YSI)
   5. Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (Robert Bruninga)
   6. Re: Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
   7. Re: Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (Glen Zook)
   8. Re: Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (JamesDuffey)
   9. doppler.sqf file (alex weimer)
  10. Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz (David G0MRF)
  11. Re: Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz (Zach Metzinger)
  12. Re: Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz (Stefan Wagener)
  13. Re: Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (Ted Krempa)
  14. Re: Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 13:32:36 -0700
From: Kevin Schuchmann <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDX stops responding
Message-ID: <6207dfc3-9094-0420-796d-f26df087a975@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


Hello All,
 ?? This is probably? a windows issue but I'm curious if anyone else has
seen it. I'm running windows 8.1? and about once a week or maybe two SDX
will stop responding, closing satpc32 fails to kill it and I have to go
in and manually kill it, I have tried many different serial ports
usb/hard from the pc to the rotor controller,? a different controller,
running satpc32 as admin, running it in compatibility mode for win 7 was
the only thing that "maybe" slowed it down a little.

Have I missed something? anyone else see SDX? stop responding?

Thanks
Kevin WA7FWF




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:34:34 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Current copy of Doppler SQF?
Message-ID:
<CAHKCqnB7nwizz1W0SgkDHTOGqSEVe7ygj24nCAcGTZdU=OyrhA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm recovering from a hard disk crash and lost all of my current SatPC32
various.SQF files. I did a Google search for Doppler.SQF and the most
recent I could find was something posted in 2015.

Does anyone know where a current copy of Doppler.SQF (with today's
satellites in it) can be downloaded?

Would save a lot of time. Thanks in advance.
--
Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA   EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
   you would stay out and your dog would go in."
    ---Mark Twain


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:34:32 -0700
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM07-DM08 Rove
Message-ID: <5ab89909-f5af-5d98-1892-257b725dd6bc@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I just wanted to let everyone know who contacted me this past week while
we were in the Eastern Sierra that I am in the process of uploading my
contacts to LoTW and QRZ.com as N6REK/P.? Since I have recordings of 7
satellite passes, it may take me a few days, but I will get them logged.
Thanks to all of you with whom I had a QSO and also to those I couldn't
quite reach. It was a fun trip, fishing was lousy, but I made up for it
bagging a good number of contacts on the satellites.

73,

Bob, N6REK



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:31:10 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: w3ab@?????.???
Cc: inservice2him@???????.???? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB : AZ/EL Rotor
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8Nshe1ohkSLk2YZ2r_QLAWOXHtw6XLJuJNR3G176xaw4A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If you are looking for a project, satnogs.org is a great place to take a
look at.

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:35 AM W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> I've seen some made with stepper motors. Ask Dr Goggle.
>
> ?___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
> On Sep 3, 2018, 06:00, at 06:00, Kirk P <inservice2him@???????.???> wrote:
> >Searching for a small AZ/EL system for a small M2 2m/435 SAT antenna.
> >
> >Kirk, N0KK
> >
> >
> >Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> >_______________________________________________
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> >of AMSAT-NA.
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> >program!
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> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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--
73,
Don KB2YSI
https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:35:35 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID:
<CALdCfN+Q92ESurFwWzKyzdbxcTGMXiKB-aKBZpOo3o7kKWG1yw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

White house planning to shut down WWV.
If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator  Tom Kelly in
Oregon:.


https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millio
ns-of-clocks/4554376.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=
website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:54:18 -0400
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV <glennmaillist@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID: <2b1ab779-ae08-edc8-062d-01f17aaffef7@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

.Is it the White House or a ploy by NIST, in their budget,? to list it
as an item to defund so that they can keep their conference money?
Having worked for the government, you list a high cost line item to
defund, knowing that public outcry will not let it happen and you keep
your pet project funds.

I have already signed the petition, even though iit is a NIST proposal
and not a White House proposal.

Glenn
WB4UIV

On 9/3/2018 10:35 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> White house planning to shut down WWV.
> If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator  Tom Kelly in
> Oregon:.
>
>
> https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millio
> ns-of-clocks/4554376.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=
> website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Glenn Little                ARRL Technical Specialist   QCWA  LM 28417
Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            wb4uiv@????.???    AMSAT LM 2178
QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 04:54:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@?????.???>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>, amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID: <654546313.747307.1536036853117@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

NOT a White House proposal!? The proposal is by the NIST.? The petition is
to attempt to get the President to intervene to stop the elimination of WWV
/ WWVH.

?Glen, K9STH?
Website: http://k9sth.net

      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
 To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
 Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:36 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV

White house planning to shut down WWV.
If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator? Tom Kelly in
Oregon:.





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 08:49:40 -0600
From: JamesDuffey <jamesduffey@???????.???>
To: Glen Zook <gzook@?????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID: <1CF0DF02-D43F-42ED-8CD2-DEA1BFAE0446@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

To be clear, NIST did not propose the cuts in a vacuum. They are a response
to the budget allocation they get from the executive branch. The allocation
is lower than what their current budget is, so they have to cut something. I
suspect that NIST allocated budget cuts to the various departments and when
the Fundamental Measurement, Quantum Science and Measurement Dissemination
group received its cut allocation it prioritized its programs and the
WWV/WWVH/WWVB programs fell below the line. Most of us that have been
involved in hard budget decisions know the drill. Something ugly usually
happens. In essence, the proposed budget allocations are forcing NIST to
take a poison pill.

In context, the overall federal budget proposed is increased. The cuts in
WWV/WWVH/WWVB go to expenditures elsewhere by the government. Each
individual needs to determine whether the expenditures elsewhere in the
government are more important to them than the WWV/WWVH/WWVB cuts. To me,
the lower priority given to science and technology in the 2019 proposed
budget, evidenced in part by the NIST cuts, is disturbing. I fear that in
time it will flow to other programs, including NASA, that are important to us.

At the risk of introducing politics into what should be an apolitical AMSAT
BBS, sending your elected representatives a post card declaring how you feel
about this issue and what you want them to do about it is as important, or
more important, than signing the petition. But, the ballot box is a longer
term solution to the problem. Register to vote in November and vote for
candidates that will support federal expenditures on science and technology.
Encourage your friends, family, and colleagues to do the same.

Off the soap box. - Duffey KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Sep 3, 2018, at 22:54, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> NOT a White House proposal!  The proposal is by the NIST.  The petition is
to attempt to get the President to intervene to stop the elimination of WWV
/ WWVH.
>
>  Glen, K9STH
> Website: http://k9sth.net
>
>      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
> To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:36 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
>
> White house planning to shut down WWV.
> If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator  Tom Kelly in
> Oregon:.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:13:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler.sqf file
Message-ID: <621696648.2385926.1536073984838@???????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Complete file sent this morning  73  JACK  KC7MG


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:00:14 -0400
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz
Message-ID: <165a662bf7a-1ebf-12a01@?????????????.???.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Hi everyone.


Does anyone know a cost effective way of measuring VSWR or reflected power
at 2.4GHz ?



I'm building a 70cm to S band upconverter with 25 Watts output.
Before I connect it to my dish feed, it would be nice to know that the match
is reasonably close to 50 ohms.
It would be nice for the PA transistor to last more than 1 QSO



2.4G inserts for bird watt meters are few and far between.....I wonder if
the one that covers 400M to 1GHz would work.?


73


David  G0MRF



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:37:31 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz
Message-ID: <9ef4f541-f783-6c4a-2c2f-f46a4651555e@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 09/04/18 16:00, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Does anyone know a cost effective way of measuring VSWR or reflected power
at 2.4GHz ?
>
> I'm building a 70cm to S band upconverter with 25 Watts output.
> Before I connect it to my dish feed, it would be nice to know that the
match is reasonably close to 50 ohms.
> It would be nice for the PA transistor to last more than 1 QSO

David,

Try building the surface-mount version at the bottom of this page:

https://ludens.cl/Electron/swr/swr.html

They don't need (or tolerate) much power, but they are cheap to build!

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:50:05 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: zmetzing@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Measuring VSWR at 2.4GHz
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAQ+XFx1CY1XoaN531aocWUneHCMBo3vRf2T5uXhKKoLQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Look for:

"N1201SA"

on Ebay ~$150

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 4:39 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:

> On 09/04/18 16:00, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Does anyone know a cost effective way of measuring VSWR or reflected
> power at 2.4GHz ?
> >
> > I'm building a 70cm to S band upconverter with 25 Watts output.
> > Before I connect it to my dish feed, it would be nice to know that the
> match is reasonably close to 50 ohms.
> > It would be nice for the PA transistor to last more than 1 QSO
>
> David,
>
> Try building the surface-mount version at the bottom of this page:
>
> https://ludens.cl/Electron/swr/swr.html
>
> They don't need (or tolerate) much power, but they are cheap to build!
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:58:56 -0700
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@????.???>, "'amsat bb'"
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID: <005401d444a2$dc4076f0$94c164d0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Nonsense !

It was clearly pointed out in the ARRL Letter of 8-22-18:

"According to the NIST Fiscal Year (FY) 2019 budget request, the specific
cut would come from the NIST Fundamental Measurement, Quantum Science, and
Measurement Dissemination budget and would amount to $6.3 million.
"NIST has a long-standing history of providing time and frequency services
through our radio stations and we appreciate that many people use these
services," NIST said in a statement. "WWV is the longest continuously
operating radio service in the US. At the same time, the proposed NIST
budget for FY 2019 required difficult choices about budget priorities."
NIST said that it plans to eliminate "efforts that have been replaced by
newer technologies, measurement science research that lies outside NIST's
core mission space, and programs that can no longer be supported due to
facility deterioration."

The decision has NOTHING to do with the White House (aka Trump Bashing)

K7TRK said that

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:36 PM
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV

White house planning to shut down WWV.
If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator  Tom Kelly in
Oregon:.


https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millio
ns-of-clocks/4554376.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=
website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 19:21:05 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOo+ThcE3tr11jUN-t9agtXgKK8C=0Zfeeh5b7MiVJyAXw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

The Office of Management and Budget (OMB), which is part of the
Executive Office of the President, works very closely with the
agencies on their budget requests. The request is technically the
agency's, but it is heavily influenced by the White House.

73,

Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:04 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> Nonsense !
>
> It was clearly pointed out in the ARRL Letter of 8-22-18:
>
> "According to the NIST Fiscal Year (FY) 2019 budget request, the specific
> cut would come from the NIST Fundamental Measurement, Quantum Science, and
> Measurement Dissemination budget and would amount to $6.3 million.
> "NIST has a long-standing history of providing time and frequency services
> through our radio stations and we appreciate that many people use these
> services," NIST said in a statement. "WWV is the longest continuously
> operating radio service in the US. At the same time, the proposed NIST
> budget for FY 2019 required difficult choices about budget priorities."
> NIST said that it plans to eliminate "efforts that have been replaced by
> newer technologies, measurement science research that lies outside NIST's
> core mission space, and programs that can no longer be supported due to
> facility deterioration."
>
> The decision has NOTHING to do with the White House (aka Trump Bashing)
>
> K7TRK said that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:36 PM
> To: amsat bb
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: White House wants to eliminate WWV
>
> White house planning to shut down WWV.
> If you disagree, sign the petition started by Ham Operator  Tom Kelly in
> Oregon:.
>
>
> https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millio
> ns-of-clocks/4554376.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=
> website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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