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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Recording your QSOs (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Re: Recording your QSOs (Doug - k4gkj)
3. Re: Recording your QSOs (Bryan Green)
4. WD9EWK at Yuma (Arizona) Hamfest, 20-21 February 2015
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
5. WD9EWK @ DM32 - between 19 and 22 February 2015
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. ISS (Kevin Deane)
7. ISS Thanks (Kevin Deane)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:47:49 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
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Hi Bryan!
Thanks for the contact on Saturday afternoon!
I use a splitter with my Sony recorder, which works like your recorder
that shows up like a USB drive when plugged into a computer. If you
don't want to use the splitter, you could use the recorder - or recording
app on a phone, tablet, etc. - and just record your own voice. Make sure
to know when the recording starts, and say the other station's call with
each QSO. Then you can play back the recording later and log the
contacts. This may not capture the audio from the satellite, but it will
certainly capture the information you need to log QSOs. I sometimes
go this way, if I'm using a different radio or don't have my splitter with
patch cable and earbuds/earpiece handy. The recording app on my
phone or iPod is useful as a second audio recorder, like when I am
trying to work the ISS or some really rare location, in case something
happens to the recorder.
My recorder uses MP3 as its native file format. I don't use the lowest
quality for the recordings, in case I want to put them into videos like
those I just posted from Saturday. I think I have my recorder set to
encode MP3s at 48kbps. The higher quality settings also help when
playing back SSTV recordings, to get good pictures from what I
recorded. I name the files in a manner like you do - the date and UTC
time the recording started, the satellite name, and the grid locator(s)
where I operated from. Even though I won't go back to 99.9% of the
recordings I have made, I usually keep them all. The more memorable
passes or contacts may end up in a slideshow video, or I will keep a
copy of those recordings somewhere else for future use.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Bryan Green <bryan@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Here's my experience:
>
> I used to juggle a little notebook along with everything else. That was a
challenge.
>
> Then I got a little recorder, the Sony ICD-UX70 Voice Recorder. It can be
wired inline from the audio output of your radio to your headset as Steve
described.
>
> It works well for me. I have it set to UTC and follow a little system to
name the files, for example:
>
> 20150213T0029Z KL7CN_W6 CM98fn SO-50.mp3
>
> The unit plugs directly into a USB port, and appears as a Flash Drive.
>
> This model is not in production, but there are a few sources online.
>
> It still takes time to review the recordings and log them, but it is a far
superior system to the notebook.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:08:29 -0500
From: Doug - k4gkj <k4gkj@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: w6gyc@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
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I have several digital recorders, Olympus, Sony, and Zoom.?
The Zoom recorder is a very nice unit.... It records surprisingly great for
a handheld unit..... The target audience was musicians, to be able to record
on the fly, not forgetting a cord, phrase, etc. ?It isn't the least
expensive at $100 + (depending on where you buy it), but has replaceable /
upgradeable memory, records in mp3 or wave, user adjustable sample rate, &
much more..... It's also in stereo if you want to use it for other
projects.....and has a line input too.?
I like some types of sushi..... Not all... ?But I'll save that conversation
for the next pass (grin)........
Some of yall are too much, bickering over pleasantries that are part of our
hobby from day one..... Both funny and sad..... Stuff like this will
certainly chase more folks off!?
Doug Bennight
K4GKJ
850-528-5772
850-926-2052?
-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Jones, W6GYC" <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx>
Date:
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
Steve
A good quality digital recorder will (should) allow you to do this.
If you get one that has both a mic in and audio out, you just put this
in-line between the speaker or audio jack and your headphones, it should
record what you hear.
Thus:
1) Plug your audio out from your radio to the digital recorder mic jack
2) plug your headphones or earpiece into the audio out of the digital
recorder
3) When you hit record, you should hear the audio from the radio.?
This will, of course take a couple of 1/8" to 1/8" audio cables to? hook
up, well actually just one.
At least that is how my set up works for me.? I have a digital recorder
I picked up at Fry's for about $60.? Make sure you get one that you can
download in a compatible format to your PC.
The other method mentioned (Y-adapter) is less expensive, and does not
require you to be recording as you listen.
Hope this helps.
73 de Mike, W6GYC
On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 13:52 -0500, Steve Kristoff wrote:
> As a newbie, I appreciate the reminders, Clint! I've just started working
> SO-50 over the last couple of weeks. I don't call "CQ satellite" since I
> read up a little on protocol before I started. I do hope that I have not
> stepped on anybody as I learn the techniques. I very much hope that someone
> will, politely and discreetly, let me know if I screw up!
> Your post does bring up a question I've been pondering for a while. You
> mention using an earpiece to monitor the downlink and also mention recording
> the satellite pass. I have been recording the satellite passes and that
> works pretty well for sorting out my contacts, but I'm not sure how to
> record the pass AND use an earpiece at the same time. Using headphones or an
> earpiece cuts out the speaker, so how do you record and use an earpiece at
> the same time?
> I'd really appreciate some help with this. Thank you!
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:01 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ SATELLITE! CQ SATELLITE!
>
>
> This post does NOT apply to about 99.4% of the members here ... So if you
> are a seasoned FM bird operator, just skip reading. BUT if you are new to
> the FM satellites ...
>
> I have heard a couple hams trying to work SO-50 the past week. They have
> their sat prediction software all set up properly ... have improved their
> antennas ... and have the proper set of frequencies programmed ...
>
> But they are not working full duplex (where you can monitor the downlink as
> you key your mic) and are stepping on other transmissions. AND they are
> simply declaring, "CQ satellite ... " over and over and over.
>
> That is not how we should be working the FM birds.
>
> Ideally, we should be working the FM voice satellites in full duplex mode,
> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting.
> This might mean a second radio with an earpiece (to avoid feedback) to make
> sure you are "making it" and are not stepping on others' contacts. Carefully
> monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations to announce
> yourself. You might find it helpful to record your sessions for later
> review. Even if you don?t make a contact during a pass, a recording can help
> you recognize the callsigns and voices of other operators. Pocket recorders
> or smartphone apps are great for this.
>
> Knowing your grid square - and having a grid square map - is a quick way of
> identifying locations of what you will hear. There are also fellow satellite
> operators who are working towards awards based on the number of unique grid
> squares they contact: that is why you should know yours as you work the
> birds. The ARRL and Icom have grid square maps: Icom?s is free and available
> at better ham radio stores.
>
> When you clearly hear others, listen for a break in the action, and use the
> ITU-approved phonetics to announce your callsign, grid square, and operating
> mode. I am K6LCS in grid square DM-13, so it becomes ...
>
> "KILO-SIX-LIMA-CHARLIE-SIERRA, DELTA-MIKE - ONE-THREE, handheld."
>
> There's a little "debate" on the necessity of the "operating mode"
> declaration. If you state, "handheld," it used to tell seasoned satellite
> operators to let you in and get your contact made - knowing you were working
> low power. Some might use "demo" as their op mode - as they operate in front
> of a club or hamfest. It is not "improper" to include an op mode - many do
> not.
>
> SO ... simply keying up and declaring "CQ satellite" over and over again is
> simply not the proper protocol to be using. It does not identify neither you
> nor your location.
>
> More information on working the "easy birds" always at ...
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> 909-241-7666 - cell, Pacific coast time
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:12:31 -0800
From: Bryan Green <bryan@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
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And just for the record, the best sushi I've ever had has been in the
Sacramento region right here in CM98.
You're invited. :)
-- bag
On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08, Doug - k4gkj <k4gkj@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
I like some types of sushi..... Not all... But I'll save that conversation
for the next pass (grin)........
Some of yall are too much, bickering over pleasantries that are part of our
hobby from day one..... Both funny and sad..... Stuff like this will
certainly chase more folks off!
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:05:49 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK at Yuma (Arizona) Hamfest, 20-21 February
2015
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Hi!
I will have an AMSAT booth at the Yuma Hamfest in Arizona this Friday
and Saturday, 20-21 February 2015. The hamfest will be at the Yuma
County Fairgrounds, along 32nd Street between Pacific Avenue and
Avenue 3E, across the street from Yuma International Airport and
Marine Corps Air Station Yuma (they share runways and the control
tower, but have separate facilities on each side of the runways). This
is the 7th consecutive year AMSAT has had a booth at the Yuma
Hamfest - thanks to Roger Hunt K7MEX and the Yuma Hamfest
committee for providing AMSAT with a booth! More information about
the hamfest is available at:
http://www.yumahamfest.org/
I plan on some on-air demonstrations of satellite operating from outside
the main hall at the hamfest. If you hear WD9EWK on the air Friday
afternoon (hamfest starts at 12 noon/1900 UTC Friday) or during the day
Saturday, please call and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest
site is in grid DM22qq. All QSOs logged by WD9EWK during the Yuma
Hamfest will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. Please e-mail me
directly with QSO details if you would like a QSL card to confirm a QSO
during any of the demonstrations. You don't have to first send me your
QSL card or SASE to get my QSL card.
During the hamfest, I will try to tweet photos and updates - especially
when I will be on the air - using my @xxxxxx Twitter feed. If you do
not use Twitter, you can still view my tweets at this link:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
Thanks in advance, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:51:45 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM32 - between 19 and 22 February 2015
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Hi!
While I am at the Yuma (Arizona) Hamfest, I will be near the rarely-heard
grid DM32. I will drive through it on Thursday (19 February) evening, and
drive home through it either on Saturday (21 February) evening or Sunday
(22 February) morning. There is also a chance I can go out there Friday
(20 February) evening, since the western edge of DM32 isn't too far from
Yuma - only 35 miles/56km east. I will try to post here on AMSAT-BB my
plans to operate from this grid, as well as on my @xxxxxx Twitter feed.
If you do not use Twitter, my @xxxxxx feed is accessible with a web
browser at:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
I don't know for sure what passes I can work from there, but I will have a
listing of available passes. If the opportunity arises to work passes while
driving through DM32, I will try to do that. While on the road, APRS should
show my location using WD9EWK-9 as my call sign. This should be
visible online at:
http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9
among other sites.
As with my other trips, I will upload my log to Logbook of the World after
the weekend. If you would like a QSL card to confirm a QSO with me from
DM32, please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. If you're in the log,
I will send you a QSL card. No need to first send me a QSL card. I don't
normally collect cards for QSOs I make away from the Phoenix area, or
outside my 200km limit per the VUCC rules.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:53:36 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS
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Is it just me or is the ISS APRS extremely weak?
The SSTV signals were the strongest I has ever received from space. Of
course they were 25 watts...
Any help I am using UISS and works perfect off the local digipeater... :(>
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:00:19 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Thanks
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Thanks for all the input guys.
I remember now about the US antenna didnt know about the handheld. Probably
had a horible SWR is why that mobile blew the finals.
Oh well, I just miss all the digi contacts was so easy back then. Really not
worth my time now I have tried 30 times and made it through once. I have had
better luck with NO-44 for cryin out loud.
Anyway thanks again!
Kevin
KF7MYK
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