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Today's Topics:
1. Antenna questions (wa7dxz)
2. Re: AO-92 QSO (skristof@???????.????
3. SatPC32 on Windows 10? (Peter J. McClosky)
4. Re: SatPC32 on Windows 10? (Stefan Wagener)
5. Re: Antenna questions (Greg D)
6. Re: SatPC32 on Windows 10? (George Sakai)
7. Help ARISS Raise Funds for Critical ISS Radio Infrustructure
Upgrade (E.Mike McCardel)
8. How to use a Kenwood TS-2000 with the internale TNC and Wisp
(Vincenzo Mone)
9. AMSAT - (Tom Mikkelsen)
10. Updated BBS Post (Tom Mikkelsen)
11. Update Price (Tom Mikkelsen)
12. Re: sat32 and ic7100 (Erich Eichmann)
13. Re: Antenna questions (Burns Fisher)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:46:23 -0700
From: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna questions
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I had previously used an ELK, with a az/el rotor. Seemed to work fine for
ao91, ao92, so50, and fo29.Decided to upgrade to the M2 Leo Pack. It works
fine, but frankly no better than my ELK.? Is the major. (only?) advantage of
the m2 system the circular polarization??If I had to do it again, Im not
sure I would have spent nearly $600 for the system, as opposed to my cheaper
ELK, but, I thought more is better, any comments?Bob?Wa7dxzDm33
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:59:42 -0400
From: skristof@???????.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 QSO
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Better supply my off-list email address!
skristof@???????.???
On 2018-09-20 12:09, skristof@???????.??? wrote:
> I got my first QSO on AO-92 today, but my voice recorder malfunctioned
> and I don't have the recording. If you contacted AI9IN on AO-92 around
> 1600 UTC today, please reply off-list. Thank you!
>
> Steve AI9IN
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:46:53 -0700
From: "Peter J. McClosky" <pmcclosky@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Windows 10?
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Hello All,
I am new to satellites, and need to buy a tracking program.
I am interest in getting SATPC32, but can not determine if it will run under
Windows 10.
Does anyone know if it will?
Thanks in advance,
Peter, N7IY
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Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
Eugene, Oregon
pmcclosky@?????????.???
n7iy@????.???
http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:00:03 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: pmcclosky@?????????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Windows 10?
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Yes it will!
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:56 PM Peter J. McClosky <pmcclosky@?????????.???>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am new to satellites, and need to buy a tracking program.
>
> I am interest in getting SATPC32, but can not determine if it will run
> under Windows 10.
>
> Does anyone know if it will?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Peter, N7IY
> -----
> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
> Eugene, Oregon
> pmcclosky@?????????.???
> n7iy@????.???
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:43:55 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: wa7dxz <wa7dxz@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna questions
Message-ID: <33e32b67-6eba-a917-f4c6-e8c05d489d98@?????.???>
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When things are loud, almost any antenna will work. I think you will
find the LEO Pack will shine when you need to work a satellite that's a
bit harder to reach. Uplink into AO-85, downlinks from AO-7 mode B,
FO-29, etc. As long as you can aim the antennas, larger is pretty much
always better, and for satellites, circular is nearly always better than
linear.
I've actually not been too impressed with the Elk's pattern, especially
outside the 2m band. Been contemplating switching to an Arrow, but like
the Elk's configuration where both up and downlink bands in the same
polarization (so one doesn't have to do the wrist flipping thing). I
also use the antenna at community support events, where I need to have
both bands available, and both needing to be vertically polarized. So,
the Elk stays, but for at-home satellite operation, I always use the big
antennas, circularly polarized.
Greg KO6TH
wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I had previously used an ELK, with a az/el rotor. Seemed to work fine for
ao91, ao92, so50, and fo29.Decided to upgrade to the M2 Leo Pack. It works
fine, but frankly no better than my ELK. Is the major. (only?) advantage of
the m2 system the circular polarization? If I had to do it again, Im not
sure I would have spent nearly $600 for the system, as opposed to my cheaper
ELK, but, I thought more is better, any comments?Bob Wa7dxzDm33
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Sakai <grsakai5120@?????.???>
To: pmcclosky@?????????.???? Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Windows 10?
Message-ID: <1953826993.522080.1537469699808@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Peter,
I have SATPC32 running on my Windows 10 laptop since November 2017.? A
couple of months ago, I was adding new satellites to SATPC32 and something
happened.? I had to re-install SATPC32 and it is working just fine now. ?
73, George N3GS, EM28
On ?Thursday?, ?September? ?20?, ?2018? ?01?:?01?:?29? ?PM? ?CDT, Stefan
Wagener <wageners@?????.???> wrote:
Yes it will!
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:56 PM Peter J. McClosky <pmcclosky@?????????.???>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am new to satellites, and need to buy a tracking program.
>
> I am interest in getting SATPC32, but can not determine if it will run
> under Windows 10.
>
> Does anyone know if it will?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Peter, N7IY
> -----
> Peter J. McClosky, N7IY
> Eugene, Oregon
> pmcclosky@?????????.???
> n7iy@????.???
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:39:10 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help ARISS Raise Funds for Critical ISS Radio
Infrustructure Upgrade
Message-ID: <54A7A8F6-0BDD-461D-8EC0-BE45191D28A8@?????.???>
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Help ARISS Raise Funds for Critical ISS Radio Infrustructure Upgrade
AMSAT and ARISS are currently supporting a FundRazr campaign to raise
$150,000 for critical radio infrastructure upgrade on ISS to enable students
to talk to astronauts in space via amateur radio.
Please help by donating today
https://fundrazr.com/arissnextgen?ref=ab_e7Htwa_ab_47IcJ9
ARISS is in critical need of the infrastructure upgrade to ensure that
programs like talking in space using amateur radio can continue. Through
your donations ARISS seeks the following upgrades:
+ Next Generation radio system will support easier radio mode transition,
to enable new, exciting capabilities for hams, students and the general
public including:
* New amateur radio communication and experimental capabilities,
including an enhanced voice repeater and updated digital packet radio (APRS)
capabilities
* Slow Scan TV (picture up and downlinks) in both US and Russian segments
of ISS
+ New multi voltage power supply will support present and future radio
capabilities and allow wireless experiments to be conducted
+ ARISS needs to build ten Next Generation radio systems to support our
development on orbit operations, training and long term maintenance. This
includes on-orbit (two units, one unit each in US and Russian segment),
flight spares (two units), training (three units), testing (one unit), and
ground-based maintenance and troubleshooting (two units)
Donations are fully tax deductible within the USA as AMSAT IS A 501(c)(3)
organization.
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:57:47 +0200
From: Vincenzo Mone <cencinoit@?????.???>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to use a Kenwood TS-2000 with the internale
TNC and Wisp
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Anybody that uses PSTROTATOR with a Kenwood TS-2000 and internal TNC??????
I cannot get both to comunicate as they should be both on the same Comport.
Somebody has suggested me to, use the VSPE software.
I have tried with it and could get both the PSTRotator and the Internal TNC
of the
Kenwood TS-2000 comunicate but get just one problem.
I have tested with a Terminal program and i can see that the both is
displayed on the terminal program
So it is mixed between the commands sent and recieved fron the radio to the
PSTRotator and the Received
Packet i get from the radio.Is there a possibility to split the two signals
on two terminal programs
So one program gets the Radio commands and one get the packet traffic
without mixing.
Or anybody had success to get the internal TNC of the Kenwood TS-2000 Wisp,
and PSTRotator ( controls Radio Frequencies and Rotators )
To work all togheter without problems?
If yes please can you tell me how to do maybe in private mail to not disturb
the list?
Thanks in advance for any help
73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:21:05 -0700
From: Tom Mikkelsen <tomm@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT -
Message-ID: <0A6B8C0B-248A-4F20-9343-D6FF7682EC83@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Please post the following for the next release of the AMSAT BB.
Thank you..Tom
Satellite Antennas and Rotor Package for Sale
I am moving and will not be able to use my larger satellite antenna package
and AZ/EL rotator.
The systems consist of:
-Yaesu G-5500 AZ/EL +Yaesu controller. LVB Tracker with Serial interface.
-M2, UHF, 436CP30, 15 El, 15.5 dB, 9.4ft, N, Boom MntUHF Ant 335
-M2, VHF, 2MCP14, 7 El, 12.4 dB, 10ft 6 in, N, Boom Mnt
-One set (AZ/EL) 50 ft control cables, One set (AZ/EL) 30 foot control cables.
Below is a link with photos of the items for sale. The tripod mast is not
part of the package for sale.
https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/
<https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/>
Price = $1,1100
-Buyer will pay for actual shipping costs unless picked up in the LA Area.
-The system is currently packaged in to 6 boxes and ready to ship.
-Buyer will need to provide/purchase 3/16? retainer clips for the antenna
element assembly.
http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/
<http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/>
2 Bags of 50 clips required $20.99 a bag (Total $41.98)
Request push on tool for installation when ordering from Lee at M2.
Contact:
Tom Mikkelsen
WA?POD
AMSAT Member 07597
e-mail: tomm@???.???
Cell: 858-692-8314
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:28:31 -0700
From: Tom Mikkelsen <tomm@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated BBS Post
Message-ID: <2EC49DBC-3671-4A47-99B5-84568B274DC4@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Please use this post rather the original I just sent.
Sorry for the update, I see I had an error plus an addition.
Updated post for the next release of the AMSAT BB.
Thank you..Tom
Satellite Antennas and Rotor Package for Sale
I am moving and will not be able to use my larger satellite antenna package
and AZ/EL rotator.
The systems consist of:
-Yaesu G-5500 AZ/EL +Yaesu controller. LVB Tracker with Serial interface.
-M2, UHF, 436CP30, 15 El, 15.5 dB, 9.4ft, N, Boom Mnt
-M2, VHF, 2MCP14, 7 El, 12.4 dB, 10ft 6 in, N, Boom Mnt
-Includes fiberglass boom assembly for antenna mounting as shown.
-One set (AZ/EL) 50 ft control cables, One set (AZ/EL) 30 foot control cables.
Below is a link with photos of the items for sale. The tripod mast is not
part of the package for sale.
https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/
<https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/>
Price = $1,1100
-Buyer will pay for actual shipping costs unless picked up in the LA Area.
-The system is currently packaged in to 6 boxes and ready to ship.
-Buyer will need to provide/purchase 3/16? retainer clips for the antenna
element assembly.
http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/
<http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/>
2 Bags of 50 clips required $20.99 a bag (Total $41.98)
Request push on tool for installation when ordering from Lee at M2.
Contact:
Tom Mikkelsen
WA?POD
AMSAT Member 07597
e-mail: tomm@???.??? <mailto:tomm@???.???>
Cell: 858-692-8314
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:52:50 -0700
From: Tom Mikkelsen <tomm@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Update Price
Message-ID: <31FAF895-C9F9-4C5D-B259-A66B9DB14C61@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
All, Sorry for the pricing error. This was my first BB post and I see from
Bruce that it gets posted
automatically rather than by an administrator.
Satellite Antennas and Rotor Package for Sale
I am moving and will not be able to use my larger satellite antenna package
and AZ/EL rotator.
The systems consist of:
-Yaesu G-5500 AZ/EL +Yaesu controller. LVB Tracker with Serial interface.
-M2, UHF, 436CP30, 15 El, 15.5 dB, 9.4ft, N, Boom Mnt
-M2, VHF, 2MCP14, 7 El, 12.4 dB, 10ft 6 in, N, Boom Mnt
-Includes fiberglass boom assembly for antenna mounting as shown.
-One set (AZ/EL) 50 ft control cables, One set (AZ/EL) 30 foot control cables.
Below is a link with photos of the items for sale. The tripod mast is not
part of the package for sale.
https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/
<https://mikkelsen.smugmug.com/Hamradio/Satellite-Antenna-System-2018/>
Price = $1,100
-Buyer will pay for actual shipping costs unless picked up in the LA Area.
-The system is currently packaged in to 6 boxes and ready to ship.
-Buyer will need to provide/purchase 3/16? retainer clips for the antenna
element assembly.
http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/
<http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/3-16-retainer-clip-bag-of-50/>
2 Bags of 50 clips required $20.99 a bag (Total $41.98)
Request push on tool for installation when ordering from Lee at M2.
Contact:
Tom Mikkelsen
WA?POD
AMSAT Member 07597
e-mail: tomm@???.??? <mailto:tomm@???.???>
Cell: 858-692-8314
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:24:55 +0200
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
To: James Brown <jimki6wj@?????????.???>, AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat32 and ic7100
Message-ID: <7a5a24f9-ff11-0f3e-f8af-4a67e2b23dd3@????????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
In 'Radio Setup' choose the IC-7000 as model but? the IC-7100 address.
Use 19200 bd at the PC and the radio.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
Am 22.08.2018 um 00:40 schrieb James Brown:
> Howdy!
> I want to connect? a Icom 7100 to satpc32. Anyone know the baud? and
access code? for this radio. If I can get this to work? I will add my ft 817
as second radio.
> Thanksjim KI6WJ
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:30:49 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: wa7dxz@???.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna questions
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Of course reality trumps theory every time, but the LEO pack circular
polarization SHOULD get you more consistent results as a satellite turns
during a pass and from one pass to another. Since the LEO pack should have
more gain then the Elk, I would also expect that, as KO6TH says, you would
have much better luck at low elevations and maybe better reception on weak
transmitters like SO-50. And finally you did not say what radio you were
using, but I'd guess that you could also turn the power down and get the
same results with the LEO pack vs the Elk.
Oh, one other thing: I think that AO-7 actually has a circularly polarized
antenna (would have to look up which bands). If you are using that band,
you might get much better and you might get much worse behavior depending
on the directional match of the Rx vs Tx antenna.
Just a thought: With the LEO Pack, getting the aiming right is more
important than with the Elk. I wonder if your rotator might be a bit off,
and the better performance of the LEO Pack is being offset by its narrower
beam being not aimed quite right.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:47 PM wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> I had previously used an ELK, with a az/el rotor. Seemed to work fine for
> ao91, ao92, so50, and fo29.Decided to upgrade to the M2 Leo Pack. It works
> fine, but frankly no better than my ELK. Is the major. (only?) advantage
> of the m2 system the circular polarization? If I had to do it again, Im not
> sure I would have spent nearly $600 for the system, as opposed to my
> cheaper ELK, but, I thought more is better, any comments?Bob Wa7dxzDm33
>
>
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