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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FoxTelem Set Up (Burns Fisher)
2. Launch window for the next Rocket Lab launch announced.
(Wendy and Terry Osborne)
3. A/C to ISS Contact (Steve Bossert)
4. Re: A/C to ISS Contact (Greg D)
5. Re: A/C to ISS Contact (kb2mjeff@???.????
6. Re: A/C to ISS Contact (Miles (WF1F))
7. N4KGL Roving at EM60 for the Nov 3rd RaDAR Challenge (Greg Lane)
8. Re: A/C to ISS Contact (Graham Shirville)
9. AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736 (johnv@????????.????
10. Re: AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736 (Zach Metzinger)
11. Ten-Koh and CubeBel 1 identified (Nico Janssen)
12. Re: AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736 (Burns Fisher)
13. Re: AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736 (Robert Bragg)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 23:06:50 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: spatrickfay@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Set Up
Message-ID:
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It was actually earlier this month. Here was the conclusion (not too
detailed, but you can ask the person who solved it):
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur@????.??> wrote:
> HI Burns,
>
> Sorry late reply but quite busy lately.. Think after just reading Hasan?s
> AMSAT Mailbox mail the solution in V3 has been found. (checked boxes
> equalizer etc)
>
> I did uncheck these boxes earlier (by coincidence I guess) and that must
> have been the reason why I started again to receive frames.
>
> Thanks yr contribution on solving this issue. 73 Albert PD0OXW
>
>
>
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:02 PM Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??> wrote:
> Another person had a similar problem with SDRConsole pretty recently.
> Nearly always with troubles decoding audio there is a high pass filter
> somewhere that blocks the really low frequency audio (below 200Hz) that
> carries the data. In the case of SDRConsole, as I recall there was a
> checkbox in some non-obvious place. You might try looking back in the
> archived of this BB for the last couple of months.
>
> I just listened to the commissioning audio. I can hear the telemetry but
> not very strongly. It seems logical that since this is really meant for
> audio, not telemetry, that it was probably recorded in such a way that you
> would not get the telemetry. (For example you are very unlikely to get
> telemetry recording off the headphone jack of your radio).
>
> Good luck and 73,
>
> Burns WB1FJ
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:31 PM sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I am working on getting FoxTelem working
>>
>> I am able to decode packets from recordings in the manual
>> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/recordings/
>>
>> I am not able to decode packets from recording at
>> https://www.amsat.org/ao-92-commissioned-open-for-amateur-use/
>>
>> I am not able to decode packets from my SDRconsole V3
>>
>>
>> Any help guidance would be appreciated
>>
>> I think my first step is, should i be able to decode packets from the
>> commissioning recording?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sean Fay
>> AA0AN
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:22:49 +1300
From: "Wendy and Terry Osborne" <wandtosborne@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch window for the next Rocket Lab launch
announced.
Message-ID: <C6CC0B172AEA47CE92908AB521151E00@??????????>
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Hi Launch Watchers,
Just announced: https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1057361750276730880
There should be another one later in November.
73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 03:50:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Bossert <k2gog@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
Message-ID: <454507145.19600985.1540957839462@????.?????.???>
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This came to mind recently.? Does anyone know if any aircraft using an
amateur frequency ever made contact with the ISS or even MIR back in its day
via voice?
How about even by boat or train to ISS/MIR?
Steve K2GOG FN31notebook.hvdn.org?
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:54:17 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Steve Bossert <k2gog@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
Message-ID: <853d27e6-8117-736a-3e7b-ab0b5efc2476@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I talked to John Blaha on MIR once, while driving down the freeway on
the way to work one morning. That count?
Greg KO6TH
Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> This came to mind recently. Does anyone know if any aircraft using an
amateur frequency ever made contact with the ISS or even MIR back in its day
via voice?
> How about even by boat or train to ISS/MIR?
> Steve K2GOG FN31notebook.hvdn.org
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:53:35 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "Steve Bossert" <k2gog@?????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
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I worked Mir voice from my boat many times, and also bicycle mobile :-)
73 Jeff kb2m
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 11:50 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
This came to mind recently. Does anyone know if any aircraft using an
amateur frequency ever made contact with the ISS or even MIR back in its day
via voice?
How about even by boat or train to ISS/MIR?
Steve K2GOG FN31notebook.hvdn.org
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:54:01 -0400
From: "Miles (WF1F)" <ka1rrw@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
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Not sure about Aircraft Intentionally making a 2-way contact.
However, the Mir station used a FM Repeater link for the official com
system on Mir.
The Up-link was in the 133.xx range (AM) of the aircraft band, and the
down link was in the 143.xx range.
Someone sent me a recording many years ago of an aircraft in Colorado
calling the tower.
The station listening to Mir 143.xx heard the down link in Texas.
The gal in Texas looked up the airport name and planes tail number and
determined the call had originated in Colorado.
I checked the time-stamp of the recoding.
Then I configured Insta-Track backwards in time to that time and
verified Mir was passing over Colorado during that time frame.
The Mir FM repeater did not have any type of PL tone.
Any signal on the up-link (including an AM Aircraft) would be
rebroadcast on the down link.
Types of know Mir contacts.
Boat to Mir (I was on a cruise ship with an HT at 2 am near Bermuda).
Car to Mir (too many to count)
HT on Land to Mir (VX-5R with attached whip, ERP aprox 1.5 watts,
Conditions were perfect and band was empty, 80 degree pass, Alexander
Serebrov on Mir.)
Mir Bounce (Joe W2?? in NJ running 200+ watts in to a beam, bounced his
voice off Mir and was heard in Boston with a 22 element beam).
Regards WF1F, Miles
On 10/30/2018 11:50 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> This came to mind recently. Does anyone know if any aircraft using an
amateur frequency ever made contact with the ISS or even MIR back in its day
via voice?
> How about even by boat or train to ISS/MIR?
> Steve K2GOG FN31notebook.hvdn.org
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 06:55:52 -0500
From: Greg Lane <lanekg@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] N4KGL Roving at EM60 for the Nov 3rd RaDAR
Challenge
Message-ID:
<CAKBWdLprZpdtdfH_rjj=pipDeNmo+cFK1FqNDnVr5qiHfw84xg@????.?????.???>
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N4KGL will be operating portable for the SO-50 pass on Saturday, Nov 3rd at
15:43 UTC from EM60.
I am doing RaDAR Challenge from Top Sail Preserve State Park in Florida.
The park is K-3664 for Parks On The Air (POTA). I will make five contacts
and walk one kilometer to the next location. I will repeat for a four hour
period starting from 15:45 UTC. Five contacts on SO-50 would be a big
help. After the SO-50 pass, I will be on HF primarily 40 and 20 meters.
73, Greg N4KGL
https://parksontheair.com
https://www.n4kgl.info/2018/09/get-ready-for-November-3rd-2018-radar.html
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:05:02 +0000
From: Graham Shirville <graham@?????????.???>
To: "Miles (WF1F)" <ka1rrw@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A/C to ISS Contact
Message-ID: <d3b277ca-de59-147c-d590-dbe30953ff12@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Not quite the same but I remember listening to the ATC at Luton Airport
trying to respond to a call from MIR - both use(d) 121.75MHz. Presumably
the Doppler on the FM signal from MIR was sufficient for the AM receiver
at Luton to slope detect the audio. I cannot remember if the cosmonaut
actually replied...
73
Graham
G3VZV
On 31/10/2018 11:54, Miles (WF1F) via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
>
>
> Not sure about Aircraft Intentionally making a 2-way contact.
> However, the Mir station used a FM Repeater link for the official com
> system on Mir.
> The Up-link was in the 133.xx range (AM) of the aircraft band, and the
> down link was in the 143.xx range.
> Someone sent me a recording many years ago of an aircraft in Colorado
> calling the tower.
> The station listening to Mir 143.xx heard the down link in Texas.
> The gal in Texas looked up the airport name and planes tail number and
> determined the call had originated in Colorado.
>
> I checked the time-stamp of the recoding.
> Then I configured Insta-Track backwards in time to that time and
> verified Mir was passing over Colorado during that time frame.
> The Mir FM repeater did not have any type of PL tone.
> Any signal on the up-link (including an AM Aircraft) would be
> rebroadcast on the down link.
>
> Types of know Mir contacts.
>
> Boat to Mir (I was on a cruise ship with an HT at 2 am near Bermuda).
> Car to Mir (too many to count)
> HT on Land to Mir (VX-5R with attached whip, ERP aprox 1.5 watts,
> Conditions were perfect and band was empty, 80 degree pass, Alexander
> Serebrov on Mir.)
> Mir Bounce (Joe W2?? in NJ running 200+ watts in to a beam, bounced
> his voice off Mir and was heard in Boston with a 22 element beam).
>
> Regards WF1F, Miles
>
>
>
> On 10/30/2018 11:50 PM, Steve Bossert via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> This came to mind recently.? Does anyone know if any aircraft using
>> an amateur frequency ever made contact with the ISS or even MIR back
>> in its day via voice?
>> How about even by boat or train to ISS/MIR?
>> Steve K2GOG FN31notebook.hvdn.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:10:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: "johnv@????????.???? <johnv@????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736
Message-ID: <744875393.20630654.1541013017927@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I have yet to find a tape recorder that works correctly.???? I'm on my third
one today.???? My hearing is not the best so I rely heavily on it.
I I am sorry to ask but would the three contacts with me, N7AME CN87 please
confirm these contacts.
Thank you and any suggestion on tape recorders, pleas let me know.
Thank youJohn
1728 - K8FYE - EN91
1728 Ki7UNJ CM931730 - WC7W - DN45
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:28:10 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736
Message-ID: <5d47cd2c-4b2d-3c35-dd07-c5a252c68760@?????.???>
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On 10/31/18 2:10 PM, johnv@????????.??? wrote:
> Thank you and any suggestion on tape recorders, pleas let me know.
This model purports to have a line-in jack, if that's what you wanted.
https://www.amazon.com/EVISTR-16gb-Digital-Voice-Recorder/dp/B07FF2STKQ
Depending on your rig, a cheap SDR dongle attached to the IF/Panadapter
jack will let you capture a large chunk of the receive spectrum. You can
later sort through this for the calls that you missed by playing back
the recorded I&Q data.
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/big-list-rtl-sdr-supported-software/
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 20:56:55 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Ray Hoad <ray.hoad@????????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ten-Koh and CubeBel 1 identified
Message-ID: <9609c938-21ba-0f5a-a0d0-57f66ead4ba1@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Doppler measurements show that Ten-Koh is object 43677, 2018-084G,
and that CubeBel 1 (BSUSat 1) is object 43666, 2018-083E.
73,
Nico PA0DLO
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:31:54 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxV2tVR7AiOzg5S49XmNeakAz2a2Ts-C3CHc7S07-vN0uw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Just realized that I did not copy the BB on this before.
I'm pretty happy with
Sony ICDPX370 Mono Digital Voice Recorder with Built-in USB
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFTWCBJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?i
e=UTF8&psc=1
It does have a line in, so you can plug it right into your headphones with
a headphone splitter to let you hear too. Seems to do a nice job, although
I've only used it a few times.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:32 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
> On 10/31/18 2:10 PM, johnv@????????.??? wrote:
> > Thank you and any suggestion on tape recorders, pleas let me know.
>
> This model purports to have a line-in jack, if that's what you wanted.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/EVISTR-16gb-Digital-Voice-Recorder/dp/B07FF2STKQ
>
> Depending on your rig, a cheap SDR dongle attached to the IF/Panadapter
> jack will let you capture a large chunk of the receive spectrum. You can
> later sort through this for the calls that you missed by playing back
> the recorded I&Q data.
>
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/big-list-rtl-sdr-supported-software/
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:06:15 -0600
From: Robert Bragg <airrj1@?????.???>
To: burns@??????.??
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 pass at 1726 - 1736
Message-ID:
<CAJ9ASBF+t9D76JFjiAzSA-pq4yuWpPh_qUKvXhnMtjGgS+UBgg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I have been very pleased with the Sony ICDPX370. It is creates a very
clear recording for playback.
I have found that it took me a while to find the ideal headphone best
suited to Satellite Ops. Right now I have settled on $0.99 ear buds from
Wal-Mart. I have tried several different types and found that these cheap
earbuds have great high frequency response and are very clear and crisp. I
have an expensive set of ISO Tunes earbuds that I use in the workshop and I
love them for music, but when I have used them for Sat work the strong bass
that sounds good with music makes for a terrible voice earbud. It doesn't
matter what volume I use the ISO Tunes at, the deep bass makes for a
muffled sound that is very difficult to follow.
John, if you have any questions or I can help show you my setup please let
me know and I will be happy to help.
R.J.
WY7AA
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??> wrote:
> Just realized that I did not copy the BB on this before.
>
> I'm pretty happy with
> Sony ICDPX370 Mono Digital Voice Recorder with Built-in USB
>
>
>
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFTWCBJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?i
e=UTF8&psc=1
>
> It does have a line in, so you can plug it right into your headphones with
> a headphone splitter to let you hear too. Seems to do a nice job, although
> I've only used it a few times.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:32 PM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > On 10/31/18 2:10 PM, johnv@????????.??? wrote:
> > > Thank you and any suggestion on tape recorders, pleas let me know.
> >
> > This model purports to have a line-in jack, if that's what you wanted.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/EVISTR-16gb-Digital-Voice-Recorder/dp/B07FF2STKQ
> >
> > Depending on your rig, a cheap SDR dongle attached to the IF/Panadapter
> > jack will let you capture a large chunk of the receive spectrum. You can
> > later sort through this for the calls that you missed by playing back
> > the recorded I&Q data.
> >
> > https://www.rtl-sdr.com/big-list-rtl-sdr-supported-software/
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> program!
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> >
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