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Today's Topics:
1. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-10-31 23:00 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
2. Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (Hasan al-Basri)
3. Re: Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (John)
4. Re: Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (Mark L. Hammond)
5. FVUCC Awards-Endorsements for October 2018 (Ronald G. Parsons)
6. Re: Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (w0km@???.????
7. Re: Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (Rolf Krogstad)
8. PSK31 on PSAT -- it works! (Scott)
9. Re: Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler (Daniel Holmes)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:08:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: <aj9n@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-10-31
23:00 UTC
Message-ID: <170528482.20163919.1541023699156@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-10-31 23:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
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Tallmadge Community Learning Center, Lancaster, OH, direct via K8QIK
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Contact was successful: Wed 2018-10-31 14:56:40 UTC 27 deg (***)
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Pathfinder Regional Vocational Technical High School, Palmer, MA, direct via
KB1MDS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-11-02 14:50:19 UTC 36 deg
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Bishop O?Connell High School, Arlington, VA, telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-11-08 15:56:28 UTC 51 deg
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If you are interested in applying for an ARISS contact, please go to
http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html
?
The information below is from the ARISS webpage:
?
International Space Station Astronauts are Calling CQ ARISS Students
??? ARISS-US program?s education proposal window open Oct. 1 - Nov. 30, 2018
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September 25, 2018:? ARISS is seeking proposals beginning October 1, 2018
from US schools, museums, science centers and community youth organizations
(working individually or together) to host amateur radio contacts with an
orbiting crew member aboard the International Space Station (ISS) between
July 1 and December 30, 2019.
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Each year, ARISS provides tens of thousands of students with learning
opportunities about space technologies, communications, and much more
through the exploration of Amateur Radio and space. ARISS has been pleased
of late, to be one of many possibilities of interest to educators during
NASA?s A Year of Education on Station, which celebrates an almost 12-month
presence of a teacher aboard the ISS.? The ARISS program connects students
to astronauts on the ISS through a partnership between NASA, the Radio
Amateur Satellite Corporation, the American Radio Relay League, other
Amateur Radio global organizations and the worldwide space agencies. The
program?s goal is to inspire students to pursue interests and careers in
science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) and in Amateur Radio.
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Educators report regularly that student participation in the ARISS program
stimulates interest in STEM subjects and STEM careers. One educator wrote,
?Many of the middle school students who took part in and attended the ARISS
contact have selected science courses in high school as a result of that
contact.?? Educators are setting up ham radio clubs in schools and learning
centers because of students? interest.
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ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed, exciting
education plan. Students can learn about satellite communications, wireless
technology, science research conducted on the ISS, radio science, and other
STEM subjects. Students learn to use Amateur Radio to talk directly to an
astronaut and ask their STEM-related questions. ARISS will help educational
organizations locate Amateur Radio groups who can assist with equipment for
a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for students.
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The proposal window opens October 1, 2018 and the proposal deadline is
November 30, 2018.
For proposal guidelines and forms and more details, visit:
http://www.ariss.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact-in-the-us.html
?
Proposal webinars for guidance and getting questions answered will be
offered October 11 and October 23, 2018, both at 8 pm Eastern Time. Advance
registration is necessary. To sign up, go to:
ariss-proposal-webinar-fall-2018.eventbrite.com/
?
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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
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Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
?
?
?
ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
?
Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
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For the application, click here.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD
ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Keigo Komuro, JA1KAB, Japan
Amateur Radio League (JARL)
ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR)
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.
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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS???
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?
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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:?
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135
Francesco IK?WGF with 132
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Sergey RV3DR with 108
****************************************************************************
The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date
webpages?were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format?YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-10-31 23:00 UTC.? (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1274. ?(***)
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1218. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL?information may be found at:??
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?
ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-10-31 23:00 UTC. (***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 56 on orbit
Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT
Alexander Gerst KF5ONO
Sergei Propopev
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:53:59 -0500
From: Hasan al-Basri <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't know
if I might be doing something wrong.
Here is how it behaves:
If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go
right out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
unintelligible.
As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the FT-857D
will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this problem
with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
1. Assert PTT and start talking.
2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT, tx
freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was asserted)
4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking and
letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
while I'm listening.
*If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best, before I
slide away.
Equipment and Setup:
Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
Doppler to Rx
Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the same
way.
Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck with
the way you are currently doing it.
73, N0AN
Hasan
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:07:32 -0000
From: "John" <john@?????.???.??>
To: "'Hasan al-Basri'" <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>,
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
Message-ID: <037f01d471ec$3c1f93f0$b45ebbd0$@?????.???.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hasan,
It's a "design feature". As you said, you've been told correctly. It doesn't
accept CAT commands for changing frequency whilst in TX.
73,
John (M5ET)
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
Sent: 01 November 2018 13:54
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't know
if I might be doing something wrong.
Here is how it behaves:
If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go right
out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
unintelligible.
As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the FT-857D
will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this problem
with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
1. Assert PTT and start talking.
2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT, tx
freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was asserted)
4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking and
letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
while I'm listening.
*If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best, before I
slide away.
Equipment and Setup:
Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
Doppler to Rx
Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the same
way.
Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck with
the way you are currently doing it.
73, N0AN
Hasan
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:14:01 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: John <john@?????.???.??>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
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Hasan, is this a possible solution?
https://www.arrl.org/shop/files/pdfs/Satellite%2520Kit.pdf
Mark N8MH
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:09 AM John <john@?????.???.??> wrote:
> Hasan,
>
> It's a "design feature". As you said, you've been told correctly. It
> doesn't
> accept CAT commands for changing frequency whilst in TX.
>
> 73,
> John (M5ET)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
> Sent: 01 November 2018 13:54
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
>
> I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
> while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't know
> if I might be doing something wrong.
>
> Here is how it behaves:
>
> If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
> doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
> passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go
> right
> out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
> unintelligible.
>
> As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
> long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the FT-857D
> will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
>
> At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this problem
> with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
>
> 1. Assert PTT and start talking.
>
> 2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
>
> 3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT, tx
> freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was asserted)
>
> 4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
>
> Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking and
> letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
> while I'm listening.
>
> *If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
>
> Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
> prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best, before I
> slide away.
>
> Equipment and Setup:
>
> Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
> Doppler to Rx
>
> Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
> providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
>
> p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the same
> way.
>
> Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck with
> the way you are currently doing it.
>
> 73, N0AN
>
>
>
>
>
> Hasan
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
> all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:08:11 -0500
From: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FVUCC Awards-Endorsements for October 2018
Message-ID: <3CA1AFABB40F4935847C75AF9594D578@?????????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite
Awards issued by the ARRL for the period October 1, 2018
through November 1, 2018.
Congratulations to all those who made the list this month!
Our ranks are growing. The Awards list went to three pages this month.
CALL 01Oct 01Nov
K8YSE 1879 1884
AA5PK 1042 1049
N0JE 400 562
WD9EWK 485 500
VE7CEW 304 356
AF5CC 338 351
AE5B 239 295
MI6GTY 110 281
XE2RV 158 262
KE8FZT 225 254
G0ABI 250 252
PS8ET 198 201
AC9E 150 200
KE0PBR 122 200
AB1OC 115 150
K4RGK 108 133
W4AQT 100 125
W9TWJ New 113
WD9EWK(DM22) New 108
WD9EWK(DM41) New 107
KK4YEL New 102
VE3NKL New 100
W8MGM New 100
If you find errors or omissions. please contact me
off-list at <mycall>@<??????>.com
and I'll revise the announcement.
This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf
listings for October 1, 2018 and November 1, 2018.
It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible.
Apologies if your call was not mentioned.
Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are
rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work!
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: w0km@???.???
To: John <john@?????.???.??>, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
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I'm curious, does the ft-817 behave the same way??
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM -0400, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@?????.???> wrote:
Hasan, is this a possible solution?
https://www.arrl.org/shop/files/pdfs/Satellite%2520Kit.pdf
Mark N8MH
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:09 AM John wrote:
> Hasan,
>
> It's a "design feature". As you said, you've been told correctly. It
> doesn't
> accept CAT commands for changing frequency whilst in TX.
>
> 73,
> John (M5ET)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
> Sent: 01 November 2018 13:54
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
>
> I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
> while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't know
> if I might be doing something wrong.
>
> Here is how it behaves:
>
> If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
> doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
> passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go
> right
> out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
> unintelligible.
>
> As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
> long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the FT-857D
> will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
>
> At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this problem
> with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
>
> 1. Assert PTT and start talking.
>
> 2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
>
> 3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT, tx
> freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was asserted)
>
> 4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
>
> Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking and
> letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
> while I'm listening.
>
> *If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
>
> Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
> prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best, before I
> slide away.
>
> Equipment and Setup:
>
> Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
> Doppler to Rx
>
> Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
> providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
>
> p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the same
> way.
>
> Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck with
> the way you are currently doing it.
>
> 73, N0AN
>
>
>
>
>
> Hasan
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
> all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 11:49:30 -0500
From: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@?????.???>
To: w0km@???.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
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The FT897D performs the same way, no CAT frequency adjustment while
transmitting.
Rolf NR0T
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 10:52 AM <w0km@???.??? wrote:
> I'm curious, does the ft-817 behave the same way??
>
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM -0400, "Mark L. Hammond" <
> marklhammond@?????.???> wrote:
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> Hasan, is this a possible solution?
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> https://www.arrl.org/shop/files/pdfs/Satellite%2520Kit.pdf
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> Mark N8MH
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:09 AM John wrote:
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> > Hasan,
> >
> > It's a "design feature". As you said, you've been told correctly. It
> > doesn't
> > accept CAT commands for changing frequency whilst in TX.
> >
> > 73,
> > John (M5ET)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
> > Sent: 01 November 2018 13:54
> > To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
> >
> > I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
> > while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't
> know
> > if I might be doing something wrong.
> >
> > Here is how it behaves:
> >
> > If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
> > doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
> > passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go
> > right
> > out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
> > unintelligible.
> >
> > As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
> > long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the
> FT-857D
> > will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
> >
> > At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this
> problem
> > with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
> >
> > 1. Assert PTT and start talking.
> >
> > 2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
> >
> > 3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT,
> tx
> > freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was
> asserted)
> >
> > 4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
> >
> > Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking
> and
> > letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
> > while I'm listening.
> >
> > *If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
> >
> > Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
> > prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best,
> before I
> > slide away.
> >
> > Equipment and Setup:
> >
> > Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
> > Doppler to Rx
> >
> > Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
> > providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
> >
> > p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the
> same
> > way.
> >
> > Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck
> with
> > the way you are currently doing it.
> >
> > 73, N0AN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hasan
> > _______________________________________________
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> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:04:12 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT -- it works!
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Now that I have successfully transmitted a 10m PSK31 signal to PSAT (NO-84)
and have found it on the 70cm FM downlink, I feel foolish that it took me
this long to figure it all out.
The antenna for 10m is a My Antennas EFHW-8010 (130 ft. wire), so it did
not require a beam or anything directional:
http://myantennas.com/wp/product/efhw-8010/
Here is a tweet w/ screen shots that I posted:
https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1058007013265944576
... and here is the excellent how-to from 2M0SQL that finally got me going
with this mode:
https://www.2m0sql.com/2018/10/29/using-the-no-84-psat-psk-transponder/
Hope to complete a QSO with another station soon!
-Scott, K4KDR
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:53:37 -0600
From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@???????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
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Yep, it works the same way. Not sure about the FT-818, but I have no reason
to believe it won?t behave the same as well.
Dan
--
Daniel Holmes, danielh@???????????.???
"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 9:47 AM, w0km@???.??? wrote:
>
> I'm curious, does the ft-817 behave the same way??
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM -0400, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@?????.???> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hasan, is this a possible solution?
>
> https://www.arrl.org/shop/files/pdfs/Satellite%2520Kit.pdf
>
>
> Mark N8MH
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:09 AM John wrote:
>
>> Hasan,
>>
>> It's a "design feature". As you said, you've been told correctly. It
>> doesn't
>> accept CAT commands for changing frequency whilst in TX.
>>
>> 73,
>> John (M5ET)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
>> Sent: 01 November 2018 13:54
>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D and Doppler
>>
>> I have been told that this radio will not accept CAT doppler adjustments
>> while it is transmitting. I definitely see that it doesn't, but don't know
>> if I might be doing something wrong.
>>
>> Here is how it behaves:
>>
>> If not transmitting, doppler correction works perfectly. As I assert PTT,
>> doppler adjustment stops and I slide up the band...pretty quickly on high
>> passes. If I hold the ptt for more than a couple of seconds, I will go
>> right
>> out of the passband of my 2.2 kHz filter...and of course become
>> unintelligible.
>>
>> As soon as I drop PTT, and key the mike again, I'm dead on freq...and as
>> long as I hold the PTT on, I drift up the band. *It appears the the FT-857D
>> will not accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.*
>>
>> At this point I need to know that there is no real solution to this problem
>> with this radio. If that's true, I can get pretty good at doing this:
>>
>> 1. Assert PTT and start talking.
>>
>> 2. Grab VFO knob, adjust as I talk to keep sounding good.
>>
>> 3. Drop PTT and begin to listen to other station. (at the drop of PTT, tx
>> freq snaps to "proper" place that it couldn't get to when PTT was asserted)
>>
>> 4. My turn to talk: Assert PTT and I'm dead on freq where I belong.
>>
>> Basically, I'm doing manual uplink adjustment to freq while I'm talking and
>> letting the CAT adjustment for doppler to take place (to the uplink freq)
>> while I'm listening.
>>
>> *If there is a better way to do this, please advise*.
>>
>> Note, it is not practical to drop PTT quickly enough and often enough to
>> prevent the problem...I can only speak a couple syllables at best, before I
>> slide away.
>>
>> Equipment and Setup:
>>
>> Rx: SDRPlay RSP2 Sofware Defined Radio with SDR Console v 3.03 providing
>> Doppler to Rx
>>
>> Tx: Yaesu FT-857D controlled as External Radio by SDR Console v 3.03
>> providing doppler correction to the External Radio.
>>
>> p.s. I have tried other doppler control programs and they behave the same
>> way.
>>
>> Any and all help would be most appreciated, even simply: You are stuck with
>> the way you are currently doing it.
>>
>> 73, N0AN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
>> all
>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> _______________________________________________
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AMSAT-NA.
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