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Today's Topics:
1. Re: CQ SATELLITE! (Gus)
2. Re: CQ SATELLITE! (Paul Stoetzer)
3. Fwd: Tues night Roundtable (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Scouting Museum on SO-50 2/14 2205Z
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
5. WD9EWK DM03 activity on 14 February - report
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. help (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
7. help (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
8. Test Message (Mike Jones)
9. Recording your QSOs (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
10. Re: help (Jeff Moore)
11. Recording Contacts (Clint Bradford)
12. Re: help (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
13. Re: Recording Contacts (Clint Bradford)
14. Re: Recording your QSOs (Bryan Green)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:36:21 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CQ SATELLITE!
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On 02/16/2015 05:01 AM, Kevin M wrote:
> You are taking my message out of context and trying to turn it into a HEO
versus LEO debate.
You are putting words in my mouth. I made (and make) no comment on
satellite orbits, nor wish to imply one. Nor am I against solid
procedural principles (full duplex / hearing your own downlink, etc).
But if every word of my exchange has to be pared down to the bare
minimum to satisfy some OTHER operators specific needs, I don't imagine
being much motivated too soon.
I think I'm going to add the "Sushi" procedural to my call from now on.
Or "No Sushi" in my case. And if there is anyone who doesn't know what
it means, I'll happily explain it to them.
--
Gus 8P6SM / No Sushi
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:26:32 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CQ SATELLITE!
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Gus,
You don't have to operate FM! You can have a nice AOS to LOS conversation
if you wish on AO-73, FO-29, AO-7, or any other pending linear transponder
satellites.
Besides, based on what I hear on SO-50 when South America is in the
footprint, you probably could have a nice roundtable discussion until North
America gets into the footprint on FM satellites.
I've had some decent conversations on low SO-50 passes to the east, when
it's just a couple of us on the East Coast and the fishes in the Atlantic
Ocean in the footprint. Being a single channel shared resource, though,
when it's busy demands operator courtesy.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On 02/16/2015 05:01 AM, Kevin M wrote:
>
>> You are taking my message out of context and trying to turn it into a HEO
>> versus LEO debate.
>>
>
> You are putting words in my mouth. I made (and make) no comment on
> satellite orbits, nor wish to imply one. Nor am I against solid procedural
> principles (full duplex / hearing your own downlink, etc). But if every
> word of my exchange has to be pared down to the bare minimum to satisfy
> some OTHER operators specific needs, I don't imagine being much motivated
> too soon.
>
> I think I'm going to add the "Sushi" procedural to my call from now on.
> Or "No Sushi" in my case. And if there is anyone who doesn't know what it
> means, I'll happily explain it to them.
>
> --
> Gus 8P6SM / No Sushi
> The Easternmost Isle
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Tues night Roundtable
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Tom" <wa5kub@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Tom" <wa5kub@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:12:24 AM
Subject: Tues night Roundtable
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Amateur Radio Roundtable is an informal discussion of all aspects of ham
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Satellite, go-kits,emergency comm, SDR, digital modes, DXing, home brewing,
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? During the last half of the roundtable, every viewer is invited
to make a virtual appearance on the show. Guests will need a Google+
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We need your help with programming. If you have a specific subject that you
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Thanks, Tom W5KUB
--
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:46:07 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Scouting Museum on SO-50 2/14 2205Z
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Hi Tom!
Despite the conditions on that SO-50 pass Saturday afternoon, it was good
to briefly make contact with you and your Scout group. Thanks for doing that,
once again.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Tom Schuessler
<tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> K2BSA/5 on SO-50 for the 2205Z pass at the National Scouting Museum In
> Irving, Texas, EM12. Give the Scouts a shout.
>
>
>
> 73, Tom, N5HYP
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:15:25 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK DM03 activity on 14 February - report
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Hi!
Thanks to all the stations that worked WD9EWK on Saturday (14 February)
afternoon, while I was in Los Angeles. I had driven to California on Friday
night before giving a presentation on Saturday morning, then spent the
afternoon operating from Dockweiler State Beach in grid DM03sw for a few
passes in the afternoon before driving home in the evening. This was a
very quick road trip for me, driving 822 miles/1323km in the span of 30
hours.
The beach is west of the LAX airport and the end of the I-105 freeway and
Imperial Highway along the Los Angeles/El Segundo city limits. The beach,
being lower than the road running parallel to the beach (Vista del Mar), gave
me a buffer from the airport QRM I observed when I tried to operate from a
parking garage north of LAX earlier in the afternoon. This was the first time
I worked satellites from DM03, making it the 76th different grid I have worked
from.
I worked two SO-50 passes, two ISS passes, and one pass each on AO-7
and FO-29. I logged a total of 27 QSOs - 4 on AO-7, 3 on FO-29, and the
other 20 on SO-50. The 2202 UTC pass, which has been discussed on here
and in other forums lately, saw 13 QSOs go in my log. I was able to work
Dale KL7XJ in Alaska early in this SO-50 pass, something I haven't done
on SO-50 from home due to obstructions in that direction. Seven more QSOs
were logged on the later pass at 2344 UTC, which was much more orderly
than the earlier pass. Unfortunately, I did not log any QSOs on the two
ISS passes - one of those passing directly overhead.
If you'd like to hear what those SO-50 passes sounded like from my location
on the beach, I posted them as YouTube videos. First, the pass at 2202
UTC Saturday afternoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KrUH6pDCQ
And the later pass at 2344 UTC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvI2Dowf2kA
Audio was recorded by my Sony digital audio recorder, connected to my
IC-2820H through a splitter cable. The other side of the splitter went to an
earpiece, so I could hear the downlink without any audio feedback into my
microphone.
I uploaded my DM03 log to Logbook of the World yesterday. If you worked
me on Saturday and want a QSL card to confirm the contact, please e-mail
me with the QSO details. There's no need to send me your QSL card or
an SASE first. If you're in my log, I will be happy to send you my QSL card.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 07:28:23 -0800
From: "Mike Jones, W6GYC" <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] help
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:05:03 -0800
From: "Mike Jones, W6GYC" <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] help
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:18:36 -0800
From: Mike Jones <mike@xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test Message
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Please disregard
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:28:20 -0800
From: "Mike Jones, W6GYC" <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
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Steve
A good quality digital recorder will (should) allow you to do this.
If you get one that has both a mic in and audio out, you just put this
in-line between the speaker or audio jack and your headphones, it should
record what you hear.
Thus:
1) Plug your audio out from your radio to the digital recorder mic jack
2) plug your headphones or earpiece into the audio out of the digital
recorder
3) When you hit record, you should hear the audio from the radio.
This will, of course take a couple of 1/8" to 1/8" audio cables to hook
up, well actually just one.
At least that is how my set up works for me. I have a digital recorder
I picked up at Fry's for about $60. Make sure you get one that you can
download in a compatible format to your PC.
The other method mentioned (Y-adapter) is less expensive, and does not
require you to be recording as you listen.
Hope this helps.
73 de Mike, W6GYC
On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 13:52 -0500, Steve Kristoff wrote:
> As a newbie, I appreciate the reminders, Clint! I've just started working
> SO-50 over the last couple of weeks. I don't call "CQ satellite" since I
> read up a little on protocol before I started. I do hope that I have not
> stepped on anybody as I learn the techniques. I very much hope that someone
> will, politely and discreetly, let me know if I screw up!
> Your post does bring up a question I've been pondering for a while. You
> mention using an earpiece to monitor the downlink and also mention recording
> the satellite pass. I have been recording the satellite passes and that
> works pretty well for sorting out my contacts, but I'm not sure how to
> record the pass AND use an earpiece at the same time. Using headphones or an
> earpiece cuts out the speaker, so how do you record and use an earpiece at
> the same time?
> I'd really appreciate some help with this. Thank you!
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:01 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ SATELLITE! CQ SATELLITE!
>
>
> This post does NOT apply to about 99.4% of the members here ... So if you
> are a seasoned FM bird operator, just skip reading. BUT if you are new to
> the FM satellites ...
>
> I have heard a couple hams trying to work SO-50 the past week. They have
> their sat prediction software all set up properly ... have improved their
> antennas ... and have the proper set of frequencies programmed ...
>
> But they are not working full duplex (where you can monitor the downlink as
> you key your mic) and are stepping on other transmissions. AND they are
> simply declaring, "CQ satellite ... " over and over and over.
>
> That is not how we should be working the FM birds.
>
> Ideally, we should be working the FM voice satellites in full duplex mode,
> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting.
> This might mean a second radio with an earpiece (to avoid feedback) to make
> sure you are "making it" and are not stepping on others' contacts. Carefully
> monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations to announce
> yourself. You might find it helpful to record your sessions for later
> review. Even if you don?t make a contact during a pass, a recording can help
> you recognize the callsigns and voices of other operators. Pocket recorders
> or smartphone apps are great for this.
>
> Knowing your grid square - and having a grid square map - is a quick way of
> identifying locations of what you will hear. There are also fellow satellite
> operators who are working towards awards based on the number of unique grid
> squares they contact: that is why you should know yours as you work the
> birds. The ARRL and Icom have grid square maps: Icom?s is free and available
> at better ham radio stores.
>
> When you clearly hear others, listen for a break in the action, and use the
> ITU-approved phonetics to announce your callsign, grid square, and operating
> mode. I am K6LCS in grid square DM-13, so it becomes ...
>
> "KILO-SIX-LIMA-CHARLIE-SIERRA, DELTA-MIKE - ONE-THREE, handheld."
>
> There's a little "debate" on the necessity of the "operating mode"
> declaration. If you state, "handheld," it used to tell seasoned satellite
> operators to let you in and get your contact made - knowing you were working
> low power. Some might use "demo" as their op mode - as they operate in front
> of a club or hamfest. It is not "improper" to include an op mode - many do
> not.
>
> SO ... simply keying up and declaring "CQ satellite" over and over again is
> simply not the proper protocol to be using. It does not identify neither you
> nor your location.
>
> More information on working the "easy birds" always at ...
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> 909-241-7666 - cell, Pacific coast time
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:00:21 -0800
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] help
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Are you asking or offering???
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Mike Jones, W6GYC <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:08:13 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recording Contacts
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>> ... As a newbie, I appreciate the reminders, Clint!
>> ... how do you record and use an earpiece at the same time?
It can be as simple as a "Y" audio adapter cable - the type that
MONOPRICE.COM sells for less than a dollar ... On their site,
search for Product Number 667.
You would feed one lead to your earpiece, and the other to
your recorder.
Others here will certainly have other suggestions, too, for you.
Clint K6LCS
909-241-7666 - cell
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:10:53 -0800
From: "Mike Jones, W6GYC" <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] help
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Trying to troubleshoot some issues on getting messages to the list. I
think that "help" should have been in the body. Sorry for the spam
On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 11:00 -0800, Jeff Moore wrote:
> Are you asking or offering???
>
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Mike Jones, W6GYC <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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> >
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:29:01 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: KA9QJG <ka9qjg@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording Contacts
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>> ... can anyone recommend a Software or Reg one with
a Time and Date Stamp on it
Check out Olympus' units ...
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/audio/digital-recorders.html
For iOS devices, I have heard of this one, but have not personally
tried it ...
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-activated-recorder/id598268211?mt=8
I do use HT Recorder Pro ... and it has that capability ...
http://www.appliedvoices.com/avllc/products/ht-recorder/index.html
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:33:53 -0800
From: Bryan Green <bryan@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording your QSOs
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Here's my experience:
I used to juggle a little notebook along with everything else. That was a
challenge.
Then I got a little recorder, the Sony ICD-UX70 Voice Recorder. It can be
wired inline from the audio output of your radio to your headset as Steve
described.
It works well for me. I have it set to UTC and follow a little system to
name the files, for example:
20150213T0029Z KL7CN_W6 CM98fn SO-50.mp3
The unit plugs directly into a USB port, and appears as a Flash Drive.
This model is not in production, but there are a few sources online.
It still takes time to review the recordings and log them, but it is a far
superior system to the notebook.
-- bag
On Feb 16, 2015, at 09:28, Mike Jones, W6GYC <w6gyc@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Steve
A good quality digital recorder will (should) allow you to do this.
If you get one that has both a mic in and audio out, you just put this
in-line between the speaker or audio jack and your headphones, it should
record what you hear.
Thus:
1) Plug your audio out from your radio to the digital recorder mic jack
2) plug your headphones or earpiece into the audio out of the digital
recorder
3) When you hit record, you should hear the audio from the radio.
This will, of course take a couple of 1/8" to 1/8" audio cables to hook
up, well actually just one.
At least that is how my set up works for me. I have a digital recorder
I picked up at Fry's for about $60. Make sure you get one that you can
download in a compatible format to your PC.
The other method mentioned (Y-adapter) is less expensive, and does not
require you to be recording as you listen.
Hope this helps.
73 de Mike, W6GYC
On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 13:52 -0500, Steve Kristoff wrote:
> As a newbie, I appreciate the reminders, Clint! I've just started working
> SO-50 over the last couple of weeks. I don't call "CQ satellite" since I
> read up a little on protocol before I started. I do hope that I have not
> stepped on anybody as I learn the techniques. I very much hope that someone
> will, politely and discreetly, let me know if I screw up!
> Your post does bring up a question I've been pondering for a while. You
> mention using an earpiece to monitor the downlink and also mention recording
> the satellite pass. I have been recording the satellite passes and that
> works pretty well for sorting out my contacts, but I'm not sure how to
> record the pass AND use an earpiece at the same time. Using headphones or an
> earpiece cuts out the speaker, so how do you record and use an earpiece at
> the same time?
> I'd really appreciate some help with this. Thank you!
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:01 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ SATELLITE! CQ SATELLITE!
>
>
> This post does NOT apply to about 99.4% of the members here ... So if you
> are a seasoned FM bird operator, just skip reading. BUT if you are new to
> the FM satellites ...
>
> I have heard a couple hams trying to work SO-50 the past week. They have
> their sat prediction software all set up properly ... have improved their
> antennas ... and have the proper set of frequencies programmed ...
>
> But they are not working full duplex (where you can monitor the downlink as
> you key your mic) and are stepping on other transmissions. AND they are
> simply declaring, "CQ satellite ... " over and over and over.
>
> That is not how we should be working the FM birds.
>
> Ideally, we should be working the FM voice satellites in full duplex mode,
> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting.
> This might mean a second radio with an earpiece (to avoid feedback) to make
> sure you are "making it" and are not stepping on others' contacts. Carefully
> monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations to announce
> yourself. You might find it helpful to record your sessions for later
> review. Even if you don?t make a contact during a pass, a recording can help
> you recognize the callsigns and voices of other operators. Pocket recorders
> or smartphone apps are great for this.
>
> Knowing your grid square - and having a grid square map - is a quick way of
> identifying locations of what you will hear. There are also fellow satellite
> operators who are working towards awards based on the number of unique grid
> squares they contact: that is why you should know yours as you work the
> birds. The ARRL and Icom have grid square maps: Icom?s is free and available
> at better ham radio stores.
>
> When you clearly hear others, listen for a break in the action, and use the
> ITU-approved phonetics to announce your callsign, grid square, and operating
> mode. I am K6LCS in grid square DM-13, so it becomes ...
>
> "KILO-SIX-LIMA-CHARLIE-SIERRA, DELTA-MIKE - ONE-THREE, handheld."
>
> There's a little "debate" on the necessity of the "operating mode"
> declaration. If you state, "handheld," it used to tell seasoned satellite
> operators to let you in and get your contact made - knowing you were working
> low power. Some might use "demo" as their op mode - as they operate in front
> of a club or hamfest. It is not "improper" to include an op mode - many do
> not.
>
> SO ... simply keying up and declaring "CQ satellite" over and over again is
> simply not the proper protocol to be using. It does not identify neither you
> nor your location.
>
> More information on working the "easy birds" always at ...
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> 909-241-7666 - cell, Pacific coast time
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