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Today's Topics:
1. G-5500 Rotator Cable (Frank Karnauskas)
2. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Rick Tejera)
3. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Bill Booth)
4. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Burns Fisher)
5. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Mail)
6. AO-92 (kb2mjeff@???.????
7. Re: AO-92 (kb2mjeff@???.????
8. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
9. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (John)
10. W0LMD Satellite Tracker Jr - PC to Rotor Controller Interface
(CEE)
11. Two Kenwood 232C - Radio to PC Serial Interface (CEE)
12. Notes on PSAT / PSK31 decoding (Scott)
13. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (Kevin M)
14. Re: G-5500 Rotator Cable (H. Stephen Nipper)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:25:43 -0700
From: "Frank Karnauskas" <n1uw@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
All the rotor control cable I can find at the usual radio stores is:
Standard duty: 2x #18 & 6x #22 @ $.049
Or
Heavy duty: 2 x #16 & 6 x #18 @ $0.89/ft.
My control line run will only be under 35 feet. Maybe I'm being
overly cheap, but between the rotator and the M2 LEO pack, costs are
starting to add up.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
73,
Frank
FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
ARRL MINNESOTA AFFILIATED CLUB COORDINATOR
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ROTATING EDITOR
1402 SUMMIT SHORES DR.
BURNSVILLE, MN 55306
N1UW@???????.???
612-644-9174
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 19:03:41 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <SaguaroAstro@???.???>
To: <N1UW@???????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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Also found this. "
https://www.remingtonindustries.com/hook-up-wire/hook-up-wire-20-awg-strande
d-solid-10-colors-7-sizes-available/?sku=20UL1007STRBLA25&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI
q9XhptK53gIVhP5kCh0vCQgQEAQYBSABEgJfVPD_BwE
Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.W7TBC.org
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From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Frank Karnauskas
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:26 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
All the rotor control cable I can find at the usual radio stores is:
Standard duty: 2x #18 & 6x #22 @ $.049
Or
Heavy duty: 2 x #16 & 6 x #18 @ $0.89/ft.
My control line run will only be under 35 feet. Maybe I'm being overly
cheap, but between the rotator and the M2 LEO pack, costs are starting to
add up.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
73,
Frank
FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
ARRL MINNESOTA AFFILIATED CLUB COORDINATOR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ROTATING
EDITOR
1402 SUMMIT SHORES DR.
BURNSVILLE, MN 55306
N1UW@???????.???
612-644-9174
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 22:14:12 -0400
From: Bill Booth <ve3nxk@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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On 2018-11-03 9:25 PM, Frank Karnauskas wrote:
> The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
I just used the regular rotor wire.....works fine.
--
Bill Booth VE3NXK
Sundridge ON, Canada
79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 23:22:16 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: ve3nxk@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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At first I tried thermostat wire, but what a pain. Solid wire and stiff!
I finally found this stuff:
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/ret-control-cable
It's $1.25/ft, but what I liked is that it came with nice connectors. So
what I did was get two lengths (one az, one el) and cut them so I have one
connector a foot or 2 from the cut. I connect that end to the control box,
and the other cut end to the Yaesu plug. Now I have a nice plug that I can
use to disconnect the control box easily. I don't remember the size of the
wires, but the have to be at least #20.
That all said, bigger (i.e. a smaller number) than #20 will certainly work
ok.
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:20 PM Bill Booth <ve3nxk@?????.???> wrote:
> On 2018-11-03 9:25 PM, Frank Karnauskas wrote:
> > The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
>
> I just used the regular rotor wire.....works fine.
>
> --
> Bill Booth VE3NXK
> Sundridge ON, Canada
> 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
> FN05ns
>
> Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html
>
> Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life
> Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 05:49:54 -0500
From: Mail <nm3a@????.???>
To: N1UW@???????.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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You have 8 wires and only need 6. So, just double (or triple if you want) up
on the 22g and use that and the two 18g wires for E4,5&6 and A4,5&6. Those
are the only ones going to the motor and the only ones needing to handle
high currents. A/E1,2&3 only carry low currents for the positioning
potentiometer.
Two 22g wires are approximately the same current carrying capacity as a 20g
wire. Three would be closer to 19g equivalence. For short runs you can get
away with a lot, but for longer runs, I?d go with the heavy duty line.
73, Dan
Sent from here. NM3A
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 21:25, Frank Karnauskas <n1uw@???????.???> wrote:
>
> The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
>
> All the rotor control cable I can find at the usual radio stores is:
>
> Standard duty: 2x #18 & 6x #22 @ $.049
>
> Or
>
> Heavy duty: 2 x #16 & 6 x #18 @ $0.89/ft.
>
> My control line run will only be under 35 feet. Maybe I'm being
> overly cheap, but between the rotator and the M2 LEO pack, costs are
> starting to add up.
>
> Your thoughts are appreciated.
>
> 73,
> Frank
>
> FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> ARRL MINNESOTA AFFILIATED CLUB COORDINATOR
> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ROTATING EDITOR
> 1402 SUMMIT SHORES DR.
> BURNSVILLE, MN 55306
> N1UW@???????.???
> 612-644-9174
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 08:39:40 -0500
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "Amsat" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92
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AO-92 L/V ?
73 Jeff kb2m
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 08:58:08 -0500
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "Amsat" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92
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Just saw on Twitter that no L/V today because of the AMSAT Symposium....
73 Jeff kb2m
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AO-92 L/V ?
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 11:50:56 +0000
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
To: N1UW@???????.???
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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I used what ever they brand in the UK rotator cable for my home install.
Portable (same rotator) used ethernet cable with good success.
Pete 2M0SQL
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, 01:27 Frank Karnauskas <n1uw@???????.??? wrote:
> The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
>
> All the rotor control cable I can find at the usual radio stores is:
>
> Standard duty: 2x #18 & 6x #22 @ $.049
>
> Or
>
> Heavy duty: 2 x #16 & 6 x #18 @ $0.89/ft.
>
> My control line run will only be under 35 feet. Maybe I'm being
> overly cheap, but between the rotator and the M2 LEO pack, costs are
> starting to add up.
>
> Your thoughts are appreciated.
>
> 73,
> Frank
>
> FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> ARRL MINNESOTA AFFILIATED CLUB COORDINATOR
> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ROTATING EDITOR
> 1402 SUMMIT SHORES DR.
> BURNSVILLE, MN 55306
> N1UW@???????.???
> 612-644-9174
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 14:24:28 -0000
From: "John" <john@?????.???.??>
To: <peter@??????.???>, <N1UW@???????.???>
Cc: 'Amsat' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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Frank,
I find that standard automotive trailer cable is more than adequate. Each
side of the G5500 only needs six lines, so two sets of six-core trailer
cable will do the job nicely.
Probably a lot cheaper than official "rotator cable" too.
73,
John (M5ET)
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Peter Goodhall
(2M0SQL)
Sent: 04 November 2018 11:51
To: N1UW@???????.???
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
I used what ever they brand in the UK rotator cable for my home install.
Portable (same rotator) used ethernet cable with good success.
Pete 2M0SQL
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, 01:27 Frank Karnauskas <n1uw@???????.??? wrote:
> The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
>
> All the rotor control cable I can find at the usual radio stores is:
>
> Standard duty: 2x #18 & 6x #22 @ $.049
>
> Or
>
> Heavy duty: 2 x #16 & 6 x #18 @ $0.89/ft.
>
> My control line run will only be under 35 feet. Maybe I'm being
> overly cheap, but between the rotator and the M2 LEO pack, costs are
> starting to add up.
>
> Your thoughts are appreciated.
>
> 73,
> Frank
>
> FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> ARRL MINNESOTA AFFILIATED CLUB COORDINATOR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ROTATING
> EDITOR
> 1402 SUMMIT SHORES DR.
> BURNSVILLE, MN 55306
> N1UW@???????.???
> 612-644-9174
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 09:15:56 -0800
From: CEE <cee@????????????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] W0LMD Satellite Tracker Jr - PC to Rotor
Controller Interface
Message-ID: <8444ece1-0fca-a6de-2b58-051747ec1b70@????????????.???>
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I am "trying" to clean out much "stuff" in shack and garage. I have a
W0LMD Satellite Tracker Jr, PC to Yaesu controller serial interface. The
Tracker Jr is included in SATPC 32 and includes a DIN cable for G5500
and G5400 controller. $40 plus $20 US shipping. PayPal only, no returns.
please see my QRZ swapmeet listing.
Chuck N7BFO
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 09:19:30 -0800
From: CEE <cee@????????????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Two Kenwood 232C - Radio to PC Serial Interface
Message-ID: <89066543-5c0f-9124-48ba-e066d0580500@????????????.???>
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I have two Kenwood 232C radio to PC, serial interface. Compatible with
SATPC 32 software to control Kenwood radios like the TS-790A, or many
Kenwood HF radios with HRD. Power cubes 13.8 volts, 0.15 amps are not
included. Some serial and radio DIN cables included. $60 for the pair,
$20 US shipping, PayPal only . No returns.
Please see my QRZ Swapmeet listing.
Chuck - N7BFO
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:43:22 -0500
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Notes on PSAT / PSK31 decoding
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Hi everyone.
If you would like to make some satellite contacts using a digital mode that
doesn't require linux, it turns out that the PSK31 transponder on PSAT
(NO-84) works very well.
A few days ago I posted that I had successfully used PSAT's PSK31
transponder:
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2018-November/070178.html
I had always seen in the documentation that the 435.350 FM downlink from
PSAT transmitted PSK31 and I had even decoded its telemetry beacons using
FLDigi. However, until a new How-To came out last week, I had never
figured out how to use the 10m USB PSK31 uplink to add my own signal to
PSAT's 70cm downlink stream.
Here is that excellent How-To from 2M0SQL:
https://www.2m0sql.com/2018/10/29/using-the-no-84-psat-psk-transponder/
... and I am making this post to share a couple of additional notes.
Please forgive if this is old news, but it was new to me.
I have uploaded some screen shots to illustrate. First, please note the
bottom waterfall in this image showing -2- PSK31 streams in PSAT's downlink:
https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//how-to/psat-psk31/fldigi-decoding.png
... the stream at the 310 Hz. mark is PSAT's telemetry beacon, but the mark
at 2369 is a repeat of what I am transmitting on 28.120!
Since the key to this is FLDigi's ability to decode multiple streams at the
same time, it's extremely helpful to SEE each of those streams separately.
In the following image, please note how to enable the left-hand "channels"
browser window in FLDigi:
https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//how-to/psat-psk31/fldigi-view-channels.png
... and this is a matter of personal preference, but I find that the most
helpful display setting in that left-hand window is to label each stream
with the audio frequency it's on:
https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//how-to/psat-psk31/fldigi-freq-view-settings.png
... when you click on any of those decode streams, that selects which
stream appears in the main upper decode window in FLDigi.
So that's the decode side of this. If you combine that with the
information provided in the How-To by 2M0SQL on how to transmit, we ought
to be able to get some 2-station or even multi-station QSO's logged.
Finally, if you don't have 10m transmit capability -or- even if you only
own an FM radio, this is a digital mode that you can absolutely decode to
enjoy another aspect of one of our long-orbiting satellites.
If you would like to practice using FLDigi to decode the PSK31 signals from
PSAT, here is the audio file that produces the two streams you see in the
screen shots I have mentioned above:
https://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//how-to/psat-psk31/psat-psk31-sample-audio.wav
-Scott, K4KDR
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 20:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin M <n4ufo@?????.???>
To: "Kevin M. via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
Message-ID: <732763034.577764.1541363081295@????.?????.???>
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> The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
I recommend Wireman #311 6 conductors 18 gauge, PE jacket. Remember you
need two... one for AZ and one for EL. =^)
https://www.thewireman.com/rotorp.html
73, Kevin N4UFO
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 13:42:47 -0700
From: "H. Stephen Nipper" <stephennipper@?????.???>
To: n4ufo@?????.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 Rotator Cable
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That is what I told him too. Good company that is where I purchased mine.
I also gave him KF7P.com in Salt Lake. He has lots of Grounding and
handles Spider Rotors. Plus he is the grounding guru.
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:28 PM Kevin M via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> > The Yaesu manual calls for six wires #20AWG each.
>
> I recommend Wireman #311 6 conductors 18 gauge, PE jacket. Remember you
> need two... one for AZ and one for EL. =^)
>
> https://www.thewireman.com/rotorp.html
>
> 73, Kevin N4UFO
>
>
>
>
>
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Boise, Idaho
N7DJX
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