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Today's Topics:
1. Re: XW2 satellites (Gabriel Zeifman)
2. Re: XW2 satellites (k6vug@?????????.????
3. Re: XW2 satellites (Scott)
4. DSLWP-B UHF Plan (???)
5. Tnx PSAT Report (Hasan al-Basri)
6. Bhutan-1 and uiTMSAT-1 (Hasan al-Basri)
7. 9100 PAT panadapter board (kb2mjeff@???.????
8. AO-91 or 92 problem receiving (Burns Fisher)
9. 1746 AO91 satellite demo - November 8th (Ruth Willet)
10. Re: Tnx PSAT Report (Robert Bruninga)
11. Re: Bhutan-1 and uiTMSAT-1 (Scott)
12. HRD tracking errors (Francis Geraci)
13. Re: AO-91 or 92 problem receiving (Mike Diehl)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:42:18 -0600
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
To: Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] XW2 satellites
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Hi Eli,
The XW series of satellites have linear transponders and are accessible
with SSB (or CW). You may be able to hear the beacons to an extent with
your HT, but I wouldn't expect much more. But generally you'll need SSB
gear to get on the linear sats. Additionally, the XWs aren't used nearly as
much as the FM sats or more popular SSB sats like FO-29 and AO-7, but it's
definitely not hard to find a QSO on them.
73,
Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 8:45 PM Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.??? wrote:
> Hi folks -
>
> I've had great luck on AO-91, AO-92, SO-50 using an FM HT and the Arrow
> antenna. However, I've never been able to hear any of the XW satellites,
> and I'm seeing them as active on the AMSAT status page. XW2-C just went
> by 500 miles away at decent elevation and not a peep.
>
> I'm concerned that I'm reading the frequency chart wrong, or ? - Could
> someone please send me a sample setup for one of them so I can be sure I'm
> interpreting everything correctly?
>
> Any assistance much appreciated!
>
> 73 de KK6ZHZ,
>
> - Eli Caul
> Director of Customer Care
> Sonic.net, Inc.
> 707-237-6201 Direct
> 707-521-0131 Faxline
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 04:15:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] XW2 satellites
Message-ID: <1784285796.201569.1541650539256@????.?????.???>
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Firstly, the XWs are SSB/CW birds and would be pretty much unreadable on FM.
Secondly, the SSB portion of the XWs is pretty unused, however their CW
beacons are loud with a vertical, and should be very loud with a beam and a
SSB/CW radio.
Thirdly, when you start listening to XWs with a SSB/CW radio, you'll find
the Doppler shift in SSB/CW is very real, compared to FM, but is a whole lot
of fun !
Hope that helps.
73!Umesh (CM97)
k6vug
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 6:46:30 PM PST, Eli Caul
<eli.caul@?????.???> wrote:
Hi folks -
I've had great luck on AO-91, AO-92, SO-50 using an FM HT and the Arrow
antenna.? However, I've never been able to hear any of the XW satellites,
and I'm seeing them as active on the AMSAT status page.? ? XW2-C just went
by 500 miles away at decent elevation and not a peep.
I'm concerned that I'm reading the frequency chart wrong, or ? - Could
someone please send me a sample setup for one of them so I can be sure I'm
interpreting everything correctly?
Any assistance much appreciated!
73 de KK6ZHZ,
- Eli Caul
Director of Customer Care
Sonic.net, Inc.
707-237-6201 Direct
707-521-0131 Faxline
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 20:25:54 -0800
From: Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
To: Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] XW2 satellites
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Eli,
Glad you are having good luck with the FM birds. Hope to catch you on one
of them. The XW birds are all SSB linear transponders. Your FM HT won't
work for those. You will need all mode tranceivers to work those.
73. Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Alternate Board of Director - AMSAT amsat.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net
> On Nov 7, 2018, at 18:08, Eli Caul <eli.caul@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi folks -
>
> I've had great luck on AO-91, AO-92, SO-50 using an FM HT and the Arrow
antenna. However, I've never been able to hear any of the XW satellites,
and I'm seeing them as active on the AMSAT status page. XW2-C just went
by 500 miles away at decent elevation and not a peep.
>
> I'm concerned that I'm reading the frequency chart wrong, or ? - Could
someone please send me a sample setup for one of them so I can be sure I'm
interpreting everything correctly?
>
> Any assistance much appreciated!
>
> 73 de KK6ZHZ,
>
> - Eli Caul
> Director of Customer Care
> Sonic.net, Inc.
> 707-237-6201 Direct
> 707-521-0131 Faxline
>
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 16:45:17 +0800 (CST)
From: ??? <wmc_jx@???.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <3c2206f5.b9e1.166f27f3d8a.Coremail.wmc_jx@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
Hi OMs,
The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned:
8 Nov 2018 09:40 to 8 Nov 2018 11:40
9 Nov 2018 12:00 to 9 Nov 2018 14:00
10 Nov 2018 14:00 to 10 Nov 2018 16:00
11 Nov 2018 13:30 to 11 Nov 2018 15:30
All time in UTC. GMSK telemetry and JT4G beacon on 435.4. GMSK
telemetry/image and JT4G repeater on 436.4.
SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html
Online JT4G telemetry forwarder:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html
VY TNX & 73!
Wei BG2BHC
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Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx@???.???? bg2bhc@?????.???
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 04:11:50 -0600
From: Hasan al-Basri <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tnx PSAT Report
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Pat,
Nice!
Fm N0AN-10 To CQ Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=43 >[14:50:57]
=4206.15N/09402.30W`73 v. ISS de Hasan N0AN
Fm WD9EWK To APK002 Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=21 >[14:51:11]
:N0AN-10 :hi dm43{N
73, N0AN
Hasan
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 04:55:07 -0600
From: Hasan al-Basri <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bhutan-1 and uiTMSAT-1
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I see beacons from these two aprs digipeating sats, but I am unsure what
the Via field is to be used in order for packets to be digipeated.
For PSAT and ISS, I use ARISS and it works fine. I don't see a similar
response from either of these other two birds.
I'm a bit uneasy about using a generic field like WIDE1-1.
BTW:
*Is there a generic via path I can use that will encompass (work for), both
the ARISS birds and these two birds from Bhutan and Maylaysia?*
It would be nice, while puttering around the shack, and all of a sudden
hearing packet activity on 145.825, to be able to jump on the keyboard and
begin packeting without having to alter the Via path.
Data captured from yesterday:
Fm BIRDBT To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[01:15:59]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF BHUTAN-1 CUBESAT
Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[01:22:09]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESAT
I didn't see any digipeated packets from anyone from either of these two
sats. Perhaps their digipeaters are not active? (I did read on-line that at
least one of them was supposed to be active, but it was old news and I've
been out of the loop)
Setup:
UISS/UT7HO (Soundmodem) > Kenwood G-707 > Arrow J-Pole @ 15' (Rx and Tx) .
This station is on 24x7 monitoring, and tx's when I have time. N0AN-10
Direwolf (Win10) > VBAudio > SDRPlay RSP2 > M2 Eggbeater @ 7' (Rx only
Igate) . This station (N0AN-6) is active only when I'm not using the
Eggbeater and SDRC Console/SDRPlay RSP2 for other satellite activities.
Any advice would be most welcome.
73, N0AN
Hasan
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 07:34:24 -0500
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "Amsat" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 9100 PAT panadapter board
Message-ID: <6F486647924E464B9EA57366D25F1BBC@???????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Has anyone installed the 9100 PAT V panadapter board described here...
https://kd2c.com/pat-v-9100
If so have you installed it with the newly documented higher gain tap points
for VHF and UHF....
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/539f6433-783a-448b-b978-2cb9dd19e2d3/download
s/1cnddlt1h_216575.pdf
When Dave KD2C came out with the original board with the low gain tap point
I found that it wasn?t acceptable for satellite use. Now I see he has higher
gain tap points for UHF and VHF. In a few days, after L/V Sunday I?m going
to open up my 9100 and redo the tap points.
73 Jeff kb2m
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 09:22:01 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 or 92 problem receiving
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I could not find the earlier note about 91 or 92 receive problem, but I
just remembered that I had trouble with 91 a few weeks ago and discovered
that a network camera that I had observing my antenna was generating a
strong signal right on the AO-91 downlink frequency. Ferrites on the CAT5
helped some, but not enough. So until I can examine it more, I power the
camera off when I'm working 91.
I found it using an HT and just noticed the squelch breaking as I tuned
over the frequency. From then on it just used the HT as a probe. Narrowed
it down to the network, and then had to do some unplugging to find the
actual culprit.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:38:35 -0500
From: Ruth Willet <ruthwillet@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1746 AO91 satellite demo - November 8th
Message-ID: <9755033B-D420-4464-8238-1A4F1D706C92@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Good morning,
I will be doing a satellite demo for the Kettering University Amateur Radio
Club today, November 8th, during the 1746z AO91 pass. I will be operating
under my callsign, KM4LAO, from EN83. I hope to work some of you!
73,
Ruth Willet
KM4LAO
Kettering University Amateur Radio Club President
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 09:53:42 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: Hasan al-Basri <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tnx PSAT Report
Message-ID: <7a3dce65df9650044a76742a461a44c2@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Can you recreate the positions of the ISS and PSAT at the time of this
dual hop packet?
That would mak e a great graphic.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Hasan al-Basri
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:12 AM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tnx PSAT Report
Pat,
Nice!
Fm N0AN-10 To CQ Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=43 >[14:50:57]
=4206.15N/09402.30W`73 v. ISS de Hasan N0AN
Fm WD9EWK To APK002 Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=21 >[14:51:11]
:N0AN-10 :hi dm43{N
73, N0AN
Hasan
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 10:57:41 -0500
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Bhutan-1 and uiTMSAT-1
Message-ID:
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I have repeatedly tried every combination of:
CQ, APTT4, or APRS
-via-
ARISS, BIRDBT, BIRDMY, BIRD-PH, JG6YKL, JG6YKM, JG6YKN, APRS, or WIDE1-1
... without any evidence of digipeater activity. Included in those
attempts I have used doppler tracking on the uplink and at other times just
set on 145.825 without tuning. All via a 50w radio w/ an AZ-EL tracked
directional gain antenna. I have also replaced properly formatted payload
messages w/ the plain text non-APRS formatted message style used in their
beacons without success.
-Scott, K4KDR
====================================
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:56 AM Hasan al-Basri <hbasri.schiers6@?????.???>
wrote:
> I see beacons from these two aprs digipeating sats, but I am unsure what
> the Via field is to be used in order for packets to be digipeated.
>
> For PSAT and ISS, I use ARISS and it works fine. I don't see a similar
> response from either of these other two birds.
>
> I'm a bit uneasy about using a generic field like WIDE1-1.
>
> BTW:
>
> *Is there a generic via path I can use that will encompass (work for), both
> the ARISS birds and these two birds from Bhutan and Maylaysia?*
>
> It would be nice, while puttering around the shack, and all of a sudden
> hearing packet activity on 145.825, to be able to jump on the keyboard and
> begin packeting without having to alter the Via path.
>
> Data captured from yesterday:
>
> Fm BIRDBT To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[01:15:59]
> HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF BHUTAN-1 CUBESAT
>
> Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[01:22:09]
> HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESAT
>
> I didn't see any digipeated packets from anyone from either of these two
> sats. Perhaps their digipeaters are not active? (I did read on-line that at
> least one of them was supposed to be active, but it was old news and I've
> been out of the loop)
>
>
> Setup:
>
> UISS/UT7HO (Soundmodem) > Kenwood G-707 > Arrow J-Pole @ 15' (Rx and Tx) .
> This station is on 24x7 monitoring, and tx's when I have time. N0AN-10
>
> Direwolf (Win10) > VBAudio > SDRPlay RSP2 > M2 Eggbeater @ 7' (Rx only
> Igate) . This station (N0AN-6) is active only when I'm not using the
> Eggbeater and SDRC Console/SDRPlay RSP2 for other satellite activities.
>
> Any advice would be most welcome.
> 73, N0AN
> Hasan
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:24:05 -0500
From: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
Message-ID:
<CA+QL-dDphzBGKtF5ckmbkZd5tGuhCBa471ELV+wwKrsvjePKfg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some birds
30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else noticed
this tracking error ?
I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing seems
to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
Best to All - WB1FXX
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 14:03:22 -0500
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-91 or 92 problem receiving
Message-ID: <601FB297-9C07-4BD3-80DD-FC03AD87672A@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Interesting. I ran into a similar problem but with SO-50. I mounted a GoPro
to the boom of my arrow and worked an AO-85 pass and everything seemed fine.
I then had a fairly shallow pass of SO-50 and could barley make out
anything, I quickly detached it and moved it away and I could hear the bird
just fine.
You may want to look into shielded CAT-6, I hear this helps.
73
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 09:22, Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??> wrote:
>
> I could not find the earlier note about 91 or 92 receive problem, but I
> just remembered that I had trouble with 91 a few weeks ago and discovered
> that a network camera that I had observing my antenna was generating a
> strong signal right on the AO-91 downlink frequency. Ferrites on the CAT5
> helped some, but not enough. So until I can examine it more, I power the
> camera off when I'm working 91.
>
> I found it using an HT and just noticed the squelch breaking as I tuned
> over the frequency. From then on it just used the HT as a probe. Narrowed
> it down to the network, and then had to do some unplugging to find the
> actual culprit.
>
> 73,
>
> Burns WB1FJ
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