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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Up and down converters (Gopal Madhavan)
2. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383 (Michael)
3. Re: Up and down converters (Gopal Madhavan)
4. Re: Up and down converters (Simon Brown)
5. Re: an opinion (Iain Young,G7III)
6. Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle (Jeff Yanko)
7. Re: Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle (Don KB2YSI)
8. Re: Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle (Ryan Butler)
9. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383 (Michael)
10. Beginner Sat's Leo's - Ask advise. (cl.rudi@?????.????
11. DSLWP-B UHF Plan (???)
12. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383 (Jean Marc Momple)
13. AO73 L band (Bob- W7LRD)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:39:32 +0530
From: Gopal Madhavan <gopal@?????????.???>
To: Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
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Thanks for the info.
Gopal
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 23:37 Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.??? wrote:
> The new P4-A (Es?hail 2) satellite will be located a 26? East longitude
> (west of Istanbul, Turkey). You should ?bookmark? the AMSAT-DL web page on
> P4-A.
> https://amsat-dl.org/eshail-2-amsat-phase-4-a
> This web page has the basic information on the P4-A / Es?hail 2 satellite.
>
> The satellite is NOT yet ?in GEO position? for operation (typically
> several weeks)
> AMSAT-DL will announce, when open in 2019.
>
>
https://amsat-dl.org/p4a-positionining-and-iot?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=t
witter
> ?
> The P4-A Satellite only has ?S-band? UPLINK with RHCP and ?Ku-band?
> DOWNLINK (Vertical for narrow; Horizontal for Wide) transponders.
> Their are Two (2) Linear Transponders : Narrow (250 kHz) and Wide Band (8
> MHz)
> ?
> I would suggest that you FIRST focus on your DOWNLINK (Receiver) setup.
> While Commercial solutions will require $$$, numerous Ku-band satellite TV
> components exist in the global market ? as starting points for DIY builder.
> DIY solutions will require previous ?Maker? / ?Builder? fabrication skills
> & technical knowledge. IF you are an appliance radio operator, this is not
> a good ?first DIY build?.
> ?
> Roland, DF3LZ has been documenting his DIY Receiver Build (follow on
> Twitter @????? ) , using the Octagon Optima OTLSO LNB and the DF9NP PLL
> with 10 MHz GPS.
>
>
http://lnbreviews.blogspot.com/2017/04/octagon-optima-otlso-pll-slim-twin.html
>
> Dieter Leupold, DF9NP
> http://www.df9np.de/page2.html
> Price List
> http://www.df9np.de/Contents/Price%20List%20PLLs.pdf
> ====
> From: "Gopal Madhavan"
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
>
> Any information available for up and down converters that use VHF and
> UHF radios to work the new Geo-Stationary satellite? (P4-A, Es?hail 2)
>
> Gopal Madhavan VU2GMN / M0GDB
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 20:55:19 -0500
From: Michael <Mat_62@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383
Message-ID: <ebb7c4d5-f9f6-9ae9-b690-be60e64d9637@???????.???>
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I pretty much agree with Bob here. I got into sats for the challenge. I
pretty much despise the term easy-sat. Easy isn't fun to me. To each
their own I guess. I certainly can see it's value for emergency use, but
day to day use would be boring IMO. No sense of accomplishment. Just my
thoughts.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob- W7LRD
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:17 PM
> To: amsat-bb
> Subject: [amsat-bb] an opinion
>
> Regarding the newest GEO. Once the GEO bird is in position and functioning,
> we just fix our antennas to one spot, no doppler, no hunting the satellite
> down, no planning for the next access time, or direction, no experimenting
> with hardware or various antenna systems, no ongoing challenge. I got into
> satellites many years ago because of the hunting, because of the difficulty
> and challenge. This is the ultimate ?easy sat?. If one wants the easy sat
> this is your baby. Yes once established one can ?work? lots of dx somewhat
> analogous to a phone call. A highly elliptical orbit (AO40 sob sob) makes
> one actually work, learn, experiment, and yes have fun. My opinion will no
> doubt be different from others. No flames please, just a discussion.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:59:56 +0530
From: "Gopal Madhavan" <gopal@?????????.???>
To: "'Fred Dawson'" <fred.wp.dawson@??????????.???>, <dan@????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
Message-ID: <01c201d47ee6$9a667210$cf335630$@?????????.???>
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Thank you will have to wait before spending that much!!
Gopal
From: Fred Dawson [mailto:fred.wp.dawson@??????????.????
Sent: 17 November 2018 19:45
To: dan@????.???
Cc: Gopal Madhavan; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
799,00 ?
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 13:39, Daniel Cussen <dan@????.???> wrote:
No price but details here:
https://shop.kuhne-electronic.de/kuhne/de/onlineshop/EsHail-2/
There may be other kits available
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:44 Gopal Madhavan, <gopal@?????????.???> wrote:
> Is any information available for up and down converters for using VHF and
> UHF radios to work the new Geo Stationary satellite?
>
>
>
> Gopal
>
>
>
> Gopal Madhavan VU2GMN / M0GDB
>
> 6, Shreyas Apartments
>
> 128 Greenways Road
>
> Chennai- 600 028, India
>
> Mob: + 91 94440 18452
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:35:28 -0000
From: "Simon Brown" <simon@?????????.???>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
Message-ID: <007a01d47f11$47118890$d53499b0$@?????????.???>
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Gopal,
A group of use are hoping to use the Lime / bladeRF SDR transceivers to work
the satellite, obviously with a LNB on receive. So far, so good, software is
working more or less.
The SDR solution should offer maximum flexibility as long as the programmers
gets there act together.
Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Gopal Madhavan
Sent: 17 November 2018 06:12
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Up and down converters
Is any information available for up and down converters for using VHF and
UHF radios to work the new Geo Stationary satellite?
Gopal
Gopal Madhavan VU2GMN / M0GDB
6, Shreyas Apartments
128 Greenways Road
Chennai- 600 028, India
Mob: + 91 94440 18452
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:21:49 +0000
From: "Iain Young,G7III" <g7iii@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] an opinion
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Hi Bob,
You Wrote:
> Regarding the newest GEO. Once the GEO bird is in position and
functioning, we just fix our antennas to one spot, no doppler, no hunting
the satellite down, no planning for the next access time, or direction, no
experimenting with hardware or various antenna systems, no ongoing
challenge. I got into satellites many years ago because of the hunting,
because of the difficulty and challenge. This is the ultimate ?easy sat?. If
one wants the easy sat this is your baby. Yes once established one can
?work? lots of dx somewhat analogous to a phone call. A highly elliptical
orbit (AO40 sob sob) makes one actually work, learn, experiment, and yes
have fun. My opinion will no doubt be different from others. No flames
please, just a discussion.
Oh I think I can assure you that there will be plenty of experimentation
going on - I have a number of things that I intend to try such as:
1) Ranging Experiments - Yes, a spacecraft in GEO *does* move - It does
a figure of eight around it's orbital slot. Can we track and measure
that ? (no you won't need to move your dish).
2) Techniques to track the beacons to then adjust your up/downlink
frequency should folks not have highly accurate LNBs and GPSDO's
3) How small a system will still successfully uplink on each
transponder ?
4) The EMCOMMS side of things has massive implications, both from a
coverage perspective, and getting pictures/video
5) New mode and protocol research becomes much easier, as you can
develop the RX part as well as the TX part over a realistic RF path
without needing other like minded amateurs within Terrestrial RF
range
73s
Iain
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:41:50 -0800
From: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle
Message-ID: <8ea40acd-45eb-275c-20ab-46088a108a25@???.???>
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Hi all,
Just wondering what time the Fox Cliff-1 launch is scheduled for from
Vandenberg?? Plus will NASA TV be carrying the launch feed live?
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:51:21 -0500
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@???.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle
Message-ID:
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Tomorrow's launch has been canceled, they will be rescheduling.
--
73, Don KB2YSI
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 05:42 Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@???.??? wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what time the Fox Cliff-1 launch is scheduled for from
> Vandenberg? Plus will NASA TV be carrying the launch feed live?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff WB3JFS
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:18:49 -0600
From: Ryan Butler <rbutler@????.???>
To: wb3jfs@???.???
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Cliff-1 Launch time and vehicle
Message-ID:
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It's been delayed per SpaceX twitter.
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1063900263570788352
It'll be on youtube for sure, not sure on NASA TV once the new date is set.
Ryan, NF0T
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 4:42 AM Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@???.???> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what time the Fox Cliff-1 launch is scheduled for from
> Vandenberg? Plus will NASA TV be carrying the launch feed live?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff WB3JFS
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:03:30 -0500
From: Michael <Mat_62@???????.???>
To: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@????????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383
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So I work out the kinks for however long that takes.... a week, a month,
etc. Then it sits at the ready, only needing an occasional test. Any
emergency? or public service work I do is most likely going to be from
here in the shack anyway. Not all of us are able to be out in the field,
on the front lines anymore. While I have great respect for those who
rush to the scenes of emergencies with "go box" in hand, it's not
something I can do. I agree that it would be boring? if we all wanted to
do the same thing. Crowded too! I just feel? that the hobby in general
and the satellite end especially, puts? too much emphasis on the "easy"
part these days. Let's keep pushing the "challenge" part too. I just
don't feel there is enough emphasis on that anymore.? In all things,
balance.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 11/17/2018 10:09 PM, Devin L. Ganger wrote:
> Food for thought: it?s hard to use a service in an emergency if you
> haven?t worked out the kinks when there is no pressure.
>
> People find challenge in all sorts of different aspects of the hobby.
> Think of how boring it would be if we all wanted to do the same thing!
> One ham?s challenge is another ham?s boredom ? and that?s a feature,
> not a bug.
>
>
> --
> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
> email: devin@????????.???
> web: Devin on Earth
> cell: +1 425.239.2575
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Michael
> <mat_62@???????.???>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:55 PM
> *To:* amsat-bb@?????.???
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383
> I pretty much agree with Bob here. I got into sats for the challenge. I
> pretty much despise the term easy-sat. Easy isn't fun to me. To each
> their own I guess. I certainly can see it's value for emergency use, but
> day to day use would be boring IMO. No sense of accomplishment. Just my
> thoughts.
>
> 73,
>
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob- W7LRD
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:17 PM
> > To: amsat-bb
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] an opinion
> >
> > Regarding the newest GEO. Once the GEO bird is in position and
> functioning,
> > we just fix our antennas to one spot, no doppler, no hunting the
> satellite
> > down, no planning for the next access time, or direction, no
> experimenting
> > with hardware or various antenna systems, no ongoing challenge. I
> got into
> > satellites many years ago because of the hunting, because of the
> difficulty
> > and challenge. This is the ultimate ?easy sat?. If one wants the
> easy sat
> > this is your baby. Yes once established one can ?work? lots of dx
> somewhat
> > analogous to a phone call. A highly elliptical orbit (AO40 sob sob)
> makes
> > one actually work, learn, experiment, and yes have fun. My opinion
> will no
> > doubt be different from others. No flames please, just a discussion.
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> ---
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:08:04 +0100
From: <cl.rudi@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Beginner Sat's Leo's - Ask advise.
Message-ID: <004901d47f48$1ff77170$5fe65450$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello FM,
I?m new to Sat work and at the moment I?m only with handheld.
I use Alaska Arrow on 3pod with Kenwood TH-D72 Radio, works well, I also
have the LP145435HH from Anjo Antenna it?s smaller, good reception, but not
able to make qso yet.
I work AO-85 / AO-91 / AO-92 / SO-50 / ISS (not yet tried)
Waiting for Diwata2 and some other, I think.
I want to install some simple antennas at my home QTH, I have not the
possibility to go for a rotatable solution. (AZ/EL) not possible.
I can put the antennas on my mast 10m high and 80m above sea level, very
good takeoff all directions.
What would be the best solution to work the birds ?
I read a lot Turnstile antenna / Eggbeater/ others ?. I know it a compromise
but it?s better to sit in the shack than in the rain or cold outside ?
Thanks in advance for your info on this subject.
73 Rudi / ON7CL.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:09:54 +0800 (CST)
From: ??? <wmc_jx@???.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <2bad8230.898a.167275ef980.Coremail.wmc_jx@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
Hi OMs,
The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned:
18 Nov 2018 20:00 to 18 Nov 2018 22:00
19 Nov 2018 16:00 to 19 Nov 2018 18:00
21 Nov 2018 17:00 to 21 Nov 2018 19:00
22 Nov 2018 18:00 to 22 Nov 2018 20:00
24 Nov 2018 02:30 to 24 Nov 2018 04:30
25 Nov 2018 20:30 to 25 Nov 2018 22:30
All time in UTC. GMSK telemetry and JT4G beacon on 435.4. GMSK
telemetry/image and JT4G repeater on 436.4.
SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html
Online JT4G telemetry forwarder:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html
VY TNX & 73!
Wei BG2BHC
--
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Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx@???.???? bg2bhc@?????.???
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 21:35:00 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Michael <Mat_62@???????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383
Message-ID: <F8C409A7-406B-4115-B081-22CB6EBEF54F@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Dear All,
I have been following these debates on the GEO (Es?Hail 2), and quite
confused by the opinions of some. For example in the mail below:
No challenge: If one try to put up a relatively ?cheap? station, he will
fully understand the challenges of doing so, as commercial rigs not yet
really available, even if it seems to be available, Kune example is quite
expensive if we count the Dishes, low loss feeders, etc?.).
I have been doing the exercise and now fully ready, and surely can state
that it is not so easy than one may think, particularly on the Tx side.
This said, having a 200Khz bandwidth (for narrow band, CW, SSB etc?) open
24/7 is superb for Dx?ers (I am not one). More enabling reliable EMCOM for
countries (Island States) such as mine in 3B8.
That said, ES?Hail 2 is a game changer (most welcome by me) whatever one
opinion may have about this bird. This is the beauty of technology and in
this particular case the near future will tell us whether it was a right
thing to do or not, I believe it will be positive and hope to make my first
QSO through it asap (fully ready).
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Michael <Mat_62@???????.???> wrote:
>
> So I work out the kinks for however long that takes.... a week, a month,
etc. Then it sits at the ready, only needing an occasional test. Any
emergency or public service work I do is most likely going to be from here
in the shack anyway. Not all of us are able to be out in the field, on the
front lines anymore. While I have great respect for those who rush to the
scenes of emergencies with "go box" in hand, it's not something I can do. I
agree that it would be boring if we all wanted to do the same thing.
Crowded too! I just feel that the hobby in general and the satellite end
especially, puts too much emphasis on the "easy" part these days. Let's
keep pushing the "challenge" part too. I just don't feel there is enough
emphasis on that anymore. In all things, balance.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 11/17/2018 10:09 PM, Devin L. Ganger wrote:
>> Food for thought: it?s hard to use a service in an emergency if you
haven?t worked out the kinks when there is no pressure.
>>
>> People find challenge in all sorts of different aspects of the hobby.
Think of how boring it would be if we all wanted to do the same thing! One
ham?s challenge is another ham?s boredom ? and that?s a feature, not a bug.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
>> email: devin@????????.???
>> web: Devin on Earth
>> cell: +1 425.239.2575
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Michael
<mat_62@???????.???>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:55 PM
>> *To:* amsat-bb@?????.???
>> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383
>> I pretty much agree with Bob here. I got into sats for the challenge. I
>> pretty much despise the term easy-sat. Easy isn't fun to me. To each
>> their own I guess. I certainly can see it's value for emergency use, but
>> day to day use would be boring IMO. No sense of accomplishment. Just my
>> thoughts.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bob- W7LRD
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:17 PM
>> > To: amsat-bb
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] an opinion
>> >
>> > Regarding the newest GEO. Once the GEO bird is in position and
functioning,
>> > we just fix our antennas to one spot, no doppler, no hunting the
satellite
>> > down, no planning for the next access time, or direction, no
experimenting
>> > with hardware or various antenna systems, no ongoing challenge. I got
into
>> > satellites many years ago because of the hunting, because of the
difficulty
>> > and challenge. This is the ultimate ?easy sat?. If one wants the easy sat
>> > this is your baby. Yes once established one can ?work? lots of dx
somewhat
>> > analogous to a phone call. A highly elliptical orbit (AO40 sob sob) makes
>> > one actually work, learn, experiment, and yes have fun. My opinion will
no
>> > doubt be different from others. No flames please, just a discussion.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:54:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 L band
Message-ID: <1371190210.116939.1542563695849@???????.???????.???>
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needed SQF file for AO73 L band
73 Bob W7LRD
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