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Today's Topics:

   1. Provisional keps for SSO-A launch (David G0MRF)
   2. Re: Provisional keps for SSO-A launch (David Johnson)
   3. TE Systems - Model 4450G - 180w 440 MHz (Paul Andrews)
   4. Re: UHF amps (Zach Leffke)
   5. Antenna separation on crossboom (Bob Hammond)
   6. Re: Antenna separation on crossboom (Greg D)
   7. UT1FG/MM Update (John Papay)
   8. Re: Antenna separation on crossboom (Eric Garner)
   9. VE3FAL in EO60 on SO-50 tonight (John Papay)
  10. FOX-1C predictions (Pedro Converso)
  11. Correction to the original ARISS press release for	tomorrow's
      Troyes, France contact (n4csitwo@?????????.????
  12. ARISS and Giving Tuesday (ka3hdo@?????.????
  13. ThumbNet SDR (E.Mike McCardel)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:39:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: hamze.j.i@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Provisional keps for SSO-A launch
Message-ID: <188154985.6132766.1543235952964@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi folks.
Dave G4DPZ and I have generated some provisional keps for Wednesday's launch
from Vandenburg.
Usual conditions apply....good for estimates over a couple of days.
Assumes 18.32UTC launch and no change in planned altitude / inclination from
last week.


JY1-Sat
1 50001U 18001A ? 18332.77000000 ?.00000000 ?00000-0 ?30100-5 0 ?99962 50001
?97.7750 ?40.4000 0012840 330.5234 141.2700 15.00250000 ? ?15

Thanks
David? G0MRF


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:53:27 +0000
From: David Johnson <dave@?????.??.??>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, hamze.j.i@?????.???
Cc: David G0MRF <g0mrf@???.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Provisional keps for SSO-A launch
Message-ID: <83AD77C3-03BB-4B5A-9CC7-96451A66D382@?????.??.??>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Looks like a formatting problem:

JY1-Sat
1 50001U 18001A   18332.77000000  .00000000  00000-0  30100-5 0  9996
2 50001  97.7750  40.4000 0012840 330.5234 141.2700 15.00250000    15

Satellite ID is a place holder.

Dave

> On 26 Nov 2018, at 12:39, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
> Dave G4DPZ and I have generated some provisional keps for Wednesday's
launch from Vandenburg.
> Usual conditions apply....good for estimates over a couple of days.
> Assumes 18.32UTC launch and no change in planned altitude / inclination
from last week.
>
>
> JY1-Sat
> 1 50001U 18001A   18332.77000000  .00000000  00000-0  30100-5 0  99962
50001  97.7750  40.4000 0012840 330.5234 141.2700 15.00250000    15
>
> Thanks
> David  G0MRF
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 08:32:57 -0500
From: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TE Systems - Model 4450G - 180w 440 MHz
Message-ID:
<CAOsf+NQqVzX1xm7LBsDq9kp=Y8jVH3yDxPJt-5C=2zpjd-yR7Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Satellite OPs:

I have a 440 MHz amp available:

TE Systems - Model 4450G (Perfect Condition)
Input: 5-10w  / Output: 180w
DC Power: +13.8vdc / Amps: 30 amps max
Connectors: N-type (in/out)
RF Sense Switching
Integrated Preamp
Astron SS-50 Power Supply

73 - Paul - W2HRO


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:16:41 -0500
From: Zach Leffke <zleffke@??.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UHF amps
Message-ID: <1744cda8-e581-220e-60d9-ef4140619a10@??.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi Jim,

We use Kuhne (DB6NT) products all over the place here at VT.? For the
Amateur Satellite Service I would recommend this:

https://shop.kuhne-electronic.com/kuhne/en/shop/power-amplifiers/MKU+PA+70CM60
W+HY++UHF+MOSFETPower+Amplifier/?card=650

50mW in for 60W out or there about, pretty nice and straightforward
final stage.? Needs a pretty hefty heat sink, and some control circuitry
built around it.? If you are looking for something outside the Amateur
bands, they also have a whole other commercial line of products, many of
which overlap the ham bands (good for 'dual use', but may require your
own filtering).


Getting up to 100W or above I second the W6QPL recommendation. He also
has a lot of useful 'widgets' for rolling your own solutions (like a
fine sequencer that could be used in conjunction with an SDR to control
the PA).



-Zach, KJ4QLP

Research Associate
Aerospace Systems Lab
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

On 11/25/2018 6:29 PM, David J. Schmocker wrote:
> Jim:
> Check website of W6PQL.com or email Jim.. He has lots of great amplifier
> solutions available.  73,
> Dave KJ9I
>
> On 11/25/18, 5:24 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Jim White"
> <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of jim@?????????????????.???> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for suggestions on UHF power amps.  One of my stations uses
>> a 10mw output SDR with a 2W gain block after it on TX.  Right now I'm
>> driving the 2W into a MIRAGE D26 to about 35W. I'd like to have about
>> 100W.  As I look at the various amateur power amps I'm not finding
>> anything with 2W in and 100ish out.  I could add some attenuation to the
>> SDR/2W amp string and get the D26 output down to perhaps 20W to drive
>> another power amp but that's not desirable because two amps in series
>> creates a few problems.
>>
>> I can find Minicircuits gain blocks that would get me to perhaps 10W, in
>> place of the 2W gain block, then drive something like a D1010 but those
>> are a bit steep at >$1,000....
>>
>> So any ideas on how to get the SDR 10mw output up to about 100W would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 06:02:29 -0800
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna separation on crossboom
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OrKSew1Rd=q3D_cVr77onA=jBUj8BH9ms5bQ1Xq-Phsrg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm putting the following antennas on an 8-foot fiberglass crossboom:

M2 2MCP8A, 143-148 MHz C{
Gulf Alpha 70cm 8x8 CP
WiMo Helix 23

I'm not sure how to calculate the proper spacing on the crossboom.  I
assume the 2m antenna should go on one end and the 70cm antenna on the
opposite end.  Can I mount the 23cm helical antenna very near the rotator
without harm since it has the solid reflector behind the helix?

Bob
W7OTJ
(was WL7CQX)


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 10:08:42 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna separation on crossboom
Message-ID: <103d307c-1ae9-7304-4e3b-a277031cdebb@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

That's pretty much what I did, though with different antennas.  Also put
the AO-40 dish on the other side of the rotor from the 23cm helix, so it
went 70cm, 2.4gig, rotor, 23cm, 2m.   Put things as far away from each
other as you can, without running out of crossboom.

I was very concerned about having the 70cm beam (uplink) so close -
inches - to the 2.4 ghz dish (downlink), but it was fine.  Good input
filtering in the 2.4 ghz Khune preamp, I guess.  More recently, Mode L/v
on AO-92 seems ok too, with the 23cm antenna near the 2m, but I have a
lot less power on 23cm than I did with AO-40 on 70cm.

Greg  KO6TH


Bob Hammond wrote:
> I'm putting the following antennas on an 8-foot fiberglass crossboom:
>
> M2 2MCP8A, 143-148 MHz C{
> Gulf Alpha 70cm 8x8 CP
> WiMo Helix 23
>
> I'm not sure how to calculate the proper spacing on the crossboom.  I
> assume the 2m antenna should go on one end and the 70cm antenna on the
> opposite end.  Can I mount the 23cm helical antenna very near the rotator
> without harm since it has the solid reflector behind the helix?
>
> Bob
> W7OTJ
> (was WL7CQX)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:25:53 -0500
From: John Papay <john@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM Update
Message-ID: <20181126182540.1135B2166B3@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Yuri UT1FG/MM will be going into port at Santos Brazil tonight
or tomorrow morning to unload.  It should take 3-4 days.
His next port will be in Argentina where he will load
cargo and then proceed to the Baltic Sea.  Lots of new
grids are anticipated along the way.  He has been active
on all of the ssb and fm birds and reports contacts with
V51 and ZS on AO-7.
73,
John K8YSE


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 10:32:48 -0800
From: Eric Garner <garnere@?????.???>
To: ko6th.greg@?????.???
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna separation on crossboom
Message-ID:
<CABqdsz_v3oRc07w-C=ixukPM+tFE764Ar8aZreKoMoDdtpA6ow@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Greg,

what are you using for your 13 cm dish?

-Eric KI7LTT

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:11 AM Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???> wrote:

> That's pretty much what I did, though with different antennas.  Also put
> the AO-40 dish on the other side of the rotor from the 23cm helix, so it
> went 70cm, 2.4gig, rotor, 23cm, 2m.   Put things as far away from each
> other as you can, without running out of crossboom.
>
> I was very concerned about having the 70cm beam (uplink) so close -
> inches - to the 2.4 ghz dish (downlink), but it was fine.  Good input
> filtering in the 2.4 ghz Khune preamp, I guess.  More recently, Mode L/v
> on AO-92 seems ok too, with the 23cm antenna near the 2m, but I have a
> lot less power on 23cm than I did with AO-40 on 70cm.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Bob Hammond wrote:
> > I'm putting the following antennas on an 8-foot fiberglass crossboom:
> >
> > M2 2MCP8A, 143-148 MHz C{
> > Gulf Alpha 70cm 8x8 CP
> > WiMo Helix 23
> >
> > I'm not sure how to calculate the proper spacing on the crossboom.  I
> > assume the 2m antenna should go on one end and the 70cm antenna on the
> > opposite end.  Can I mount the 23cm helical antenna very near the rotator
> > without harm since it has the solid reflector behind the helix?
> >
> > Bob
> > W7OTJ
> > (was WL7CQX)
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


--
--Eric
_________________________________________
Eric Garner


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:37:28 -0500
From: John Papay <john@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE3FAL in EO60 on SO-50 tonight
Message-ID: <20181126190716.7C071216839@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Fred, VE3FAL, will be on the SO50 pass tonight,
27Nov at 0031utc from EO60.  The entire USA and
Mexico will be in the footprint on this pass.  All of
the EO grids are rare so this is a great opportunity
to put one in the log.  QSL via LOTW!
73,
John K8YSE


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:38:54 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1C predictions
Message-ID:
<CANTZqKkw1mq4=Nv_g5emw5qGVXL0aOf2rAb_-FzAAGT_5Rpp-A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks! David & Dave for provisional Keps,

Predictions/freq/modes for FOX-1C & others available at:

http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=fox1c,exsee,k2sat,eseo1,jy1-sat

Good luck on launch and for early chasers !!

73, lu7abf, Pedro


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:56:51 -0500
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	<ariss-press@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Correction to the original ARISS press release for
tomorrow's Troyes, France contact
Message-ID: <D2A5CF0623A14693BDCAFD81CC24A9CF@???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

 Concerning tomorrow's ARISS contact with Ecole Primaire Jean Jaur?s et
Arnaud in Troyes, France, some of the original student questions have been
changed. Refer to our original press release posting on Nov. 24, 2018 for a
complete list of the original questions. Below are the new questions.

Q1: How are you enjoying your mission?

Q7: Were you sad about the Soyuz abort last month?

Q11: Will your future travels bring you to Troyes?

Q15: When taking photos of Earth, can you see Troyes?

Q19: Is there a phone on the ISS and do you ever have the chance to speak
with French Astronaut Michel Togini from space?

Q22: Do you sleep when it is night outside?

Dave, AA4KN

ARISS PR


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:29:21 -0500
From: <ka3hdo@?????.???>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS and Giving Tuesday
Message-ID: <22c801d485cf$19115dc0$4b341940$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

All,



Just a reminder that tomorrow, Nov. 27, is giving Tuesday.  I hope some of
you get out there and give to your favorite cause.  I also hope AMSAT and
ARISS are at the top of your lists.



The following is on the top page of the ARISS web site.  Take a look at:
www.ariss.org <http://www.ariss.org>  The donate button is there too.  So
please consider a donation to ARISS.



It should also be noted that while folks are giving to their favorite causes
tomorrow, the ARISS hardware team will be presenting to NASA the thermal
modifications made to the power supply of the ARISS next-generation radio
system  If we get through this hurdle, our next step is flight hardware
fabrication, flight testing and launch!  Please wish the ARISS hardware team
the best!



Thanks for all your interest and support to ARISS!   Ad Astra!



73,  Frank Bauer, KA3HDO

ARISS International Chair

AMSAT V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs





**************

Tuesday, Nov. 27 is  <http://www.givingtuesday.org/> #Giving Tuesday, when
many people donate to a favorite cause. Gifts to ARISS on Tuesday or at any
time of the year are a wonderful way make a difference to our youth, to our
communities and to the amateur radio hobby.  All ARISS donations via AMSAT
(including Fundrazr) are tax deductible to the extent allowed by law. If
donating directly to AMSAT, be sure to designate "ARISS" on your check, in
the PayPal notes or in your letter.  Our readers can consider doing the same
thing John Carobine, WB8RFB, did -- here is his letter.

I'm not one who considers myself influenced much by advertisements but I
recently made a donation to AMSAT-NA to support the ARISS mission of
bringing technology awareness to a whole new generation of young people
because of one; namely, the Kenwood advertisement on the back page of the
July 2018 edition of QST Magazine.  I "connected" with it and it made me
want to support this program in whatever capacity I can.

In part, the ad stated "The ARISS mission is to provide and operate Amateur
radio systems in space aboard the International Space Station, helping
inspire, educate and engage youth and communities worldwide in science,
technology, engineering and mathematics."

The last 11 years of my working life were spent as an adjunct instructor of
adult education in my local college's GED program.  I taught some of those
subjects.  As I told my students "knowledge is power and power enables one
to have many options."  The  mission statement struck a cord with me having
worked in various capacities in each of those areas over the span of my
entire working career.  I spent twenty years in the U.S. Navy working in
various meteorological, oceanographic, electronic and computer maintenance
and management capacities.  Those activities plus additional formal
education opened future employment doors for me in the civilian sector for
30 additional years.

Exposing school students via ARISS to the possibilities of careers in STEM
is nothing short of positive.  As stated so many times before, we never know
what lesson, activity, or casual statement will open a person's mind and
inspire them to greatness.

As I celebrate 47 years in amateur radio, I encourage others to reflect upon
what amateur radio has meant and done for them.  I hope that you too will be
inspired to "pay it forward" and help preserve and promote an avocation that
has meant so much to all of us.

John Carobine, WB8RFB
Life Member

Permission to post this letter, originally printed in December 2018 QST, was
received from John Carobine, WB8RFB, and ARRL.







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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:20:57 -0500
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] ThumbNet SDR
Message-ID: <7CA77A5D-1B7C-4EE5-8526-854BD0ACB9F3@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I few years ago I acquired a ThumbNet USB Rtl-sdr dongle. They were made
available by a group called Thumbsat (thumbsat.com). I have never used it
but it appears different than the N3 they now have available. I can?t find
any of my documentation. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with
this item. I hope to try using it with SDR#. The only experience I have in
this area is with a funcube dongle, which I have misplaced.
If anyone has suggestions or can point me toward some documentation I would
appreciate it.

73,
EMike

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Senior Editor AMSAT News Service
Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations



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