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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Norm Mc Sweyn N3YKF SK (Paul Andrews)
2. Re: Operating Question (Mike Sprenger)
3. Re: EAGLET-1 Cubesat on SSO-A launch (Bill)
4. Re: Norm Mc Sweyn N3YKF SK (kb2mjeff@???.????
5. Re: Operating Question (John Brier)
6. Re: Operating Question (Ryan Noguchi)
7. Re: Operating Question (Don KB2YSI)
8. Re: Operating Question (Ernie)
9. Upcoming ARISS contact with Kenilworth School and Sixth Form,
Kenilworth, United Kingdom (n4csitwo@?????????.????
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 14:27:36 -0500
From: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
To: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, John Papay <john@??????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Norm Mc Sweyn N3YKF SK
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In December 2015, I worked Norm - 8R1/N3YKF in Guyana - via satellite
on SO-50, FO-29, and AO-7 - all on the same day. Awesome, dedicated
SAT DXP OP.
Rest in peace Norm. 73 / ..
Paul - W2HRO
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:06 PM B J <va6bmj@?????.???> wrote:
>
> On 12/13/18, John Papay <john@??????.???> wrote:
> > Norm, N3YKF, became a Silent Key on 12December2018 after a
> > long battle with a rare form of cancer. He underwent many
> > operations and treatments, spending months in and out
> > of the hospital.
> >
> > Norm was an experimenter and satellite dxpeditioner. He
> > was constantly working on his "portable" setup which
> > included az/el rotors and CP antennas. He operated from
> > Peru, Guyana, Suriname, San Andres Island, Tobago Island
> > and other rare places. I remember that he took cavities
> > on his second trip to Peru to fight the RF pollution there.
> >
> > Norm would often post on the amsat-bb in response to
> > requests for help with antenna and rotor problems. He
> > spent most of his time working on his portable setup
> > rather than operating. He will be missed.
>
> I worked N3YKF over AO-51 in 2011-11. He was in EL99 at the time,
> making him one of my furthest contacts, around 3700 km from DO33. He
> was not only a new station for me but also provided me with a new grid
> square.
>
> Thank you, Norm.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 14:57:49 -0500
From: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@?????.???>
To: Chris Pohlad-Thomas <chrispohladthomas@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating Question
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Hi Chris,
Let us know your successes and challenges-be sure to consider that it?s not
a bad idea to listen to an entire overhead pass of all the fm birds as
assessment without transmitting.
Notice fades due to satellite spin and how you hear through foliage etc down
to horizon
I like this idea because Scanners are cheap
your experience may help others here reading satisfy the crave to work the
satellites and may try with gear they have based on what you report back
or
you may say Meh - not good don?t go there for some reason.
73 have fun
Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Chris Pohlad-Thomas
<chrispohladthomas@?????.???> wrote:
>
> John,
> Thanks for all this good information!
>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:48 AM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> That will probably work well. As long as the scanner has a decent
>> receiver it should work perfectly. The Fox birds (AO-85, AO-91, and
>> AO-92) will be easiest to hear. SO-50 will be harder to hear, but like
>> I said, if it's a decent receiver it will work perfectly.
>>
>> Trevor, KD9IXX uses a Radioshack scanner for RX. You can see a
>> description and pics of his setup here:
>>
>> https://www.qrz.com/db/kd9ixx
>>
>> FYI AO-85 is a little deaf so it can be hard to get into with only 5
>> watts. Also note the recent announcement to only use it when it is
>> illuminated by the sun. I would concentrate on AO-91 or AO-92. AO-92
>> is usually in L-band uplink mode on Sundays so unless you have a 1.2
>> GHz transceiver don't try it on Sundays!
>>
>> Don't forget to record at least yourself, if not the radio audio if
>> you can get the audio connections working right (you might have to use
>> a splitter). Repeat the callsign of the station you worked so the
>> recorder picks it up. That way you know who you contacted. There is no
>> time to write stuff down while holding all that gear.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:17 AM Chris Pohlad-Thomas
>> <chrispohladthomas@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> To this point I have only ever listened to the satellites using the
>>> RemoteHams station and the long wire that's in place there. I am hoping
>>> soon to pick up an Arrow so I can start not only listening but
>> interacting
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> I wanted to ask about a setup I am thinking of to see if everyone thinks
>> it
>>> would work.
>>>
>>> I have a VX-7R right now that I plan to use for TX connected into the
>>> Arrow. I know it's not full duplex, but I was thinking about using my
>>> BC246T scanner for the RX side with some headphones plugged in. Does this
>>> seem like a viable option?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
>>> K <http://about.me/chrispt>C1E
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>
>
> --
> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:20:34 -0800
From: Bill <bill@???????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EAGLET-1 Cubesat on SSO-A launch
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The EAGLET-1 paper referenced below was presented in August 2016 (over
TWO years ago) at the 30th AIAA/USU Conference on Small Satellites, and
now, two years after the paper was given and the satellite is launched,
folks are upset with the satellite operating in OUR 70 CM band. Folks,
we knew about it at least two years ago. If you read the paper, they
plan on a constellation of 20 of these satellites, presumably in the
same "uncoordinated" band.
Art Feller is correct in that we have a protocol in place to bring this
to the attention of our FCC and the IARU and to the developing satellite
organization(s). What we need is an AMSAT sponsored and supported
"watch-dog" group who will monitor upcoming proposed satellites and
initiate the required noticing to the FCC? and the IARU of violating
satellite transmission plans.
You don't wait until the satellite is launched and then complain.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
On 12/13/2018 10:51 AM, Arthur Feller, W4ART wrote:
> It would be reasonable to cite interference to a licensed station in the
amateur-satellite service (must be documented) as a reason for asking your
administration (FCC in the USA) to report the problem to the licensing
administration under RR Article 22 and demand that the offending
transmissions cease.
>
> Have fun!!
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
>> On 13-Dec-2018, at 01:13 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Presumably the Italian government licensed this commercial operation
>> on the amateur bands, which is unfortunate.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 1:04 PM PE0SAT | Amateur Radio via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12-12-2018 22:53, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the many Cubesats launched on the recent SSO-A mission was
>>>> the Italian 3U Cubesat EAGLET-1. This satellite transmits telemetry on
>>>> 435.200 MHz and it is to relay AIS signals emitted by ships from one of
>>>> two VHF frequencies to 435.800 MHz. As far as I can see these
>>>> frequencies have not been coordinated by the IARU. The operations of
>>>> this satellite have nothing to do with amateur radio. It is a
>>>> commercial
>>>> satellite, so an experimental license also does not apply. For details
>>>> see:
>>>>
https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3378&context=smalls
at
>>> Looking further into this strange satellite that is active in the
>>> HAMRADIO spectrum without following the IARU regulation
>>> (http://www.iaru.org/satellite.html), I also found this:
>>>
https://www.ohb.de/en/news/ohb-italia-nanosat-eaglet-1-successfully-launched-t
oday-from-vandenberg-air-force-base-california/
>>>
>>>
>>>> After this satellite a constellation of 20 similar satellites is
>>>> planned.
>>>> Can/should we do something about this?
>>> Can we do something?, I am not sure, but one thing we should do, and
>>> that is contacting
>>> the organizations and remind them that there are regulations they should
>>> adhere to.
>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Nico PA0DLO
>>> 73 Jan, PE0SAT
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards PE0SAT
>>> Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
>>> DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/
>>> Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/
>>> irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @??????
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funny bone.
> - Reba McEntire
>
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>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:29:03 -0500
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Norm Mc Sweyn N3YKF SK
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Very said to hear of Norms passing. We've exchanged emails many times over
the years on various rotor and controller issues I was trying to resolve,
for myself or others. Norm's reply's were almost always the most useful.
Like John said Norm didn't operate much, In 20 years, and 20,000 plus sat
contacts I worked him once, when he was in the Bahamas. But if you posted a
rotor problem you could expect Norm to send you an email with useful
information. In the satellite community Norm will be missed. God speed
Norm.......
73 Jeff kb2m
-----Original Message-----
From: John Papay
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Norm Mc Sweyn N3YKF SK
Norm, N3YKF, became a Silent Key on 12December2018 after a
long battle with a rare form of cancer. He underwent many
operations and treatments, spending months in and out
of the hospital.
Norm was an experimenter and satellite dxpeditioner. He
was constantly working on his "portable" setup which
included az/el rotors and CP antennas. He operated from
Peru, Guyana, Suriname, San Andres Island, Tobago Island
and other rare places. I remember that he took cavities
on his second trip to Peru to fight the RF pollution there.
Norm would often post on the amsat-bb in response to
requests for help with antenna and rotor problems. He
spent most of his time working on his portable setup
rather than operating. He will be missed.
John K8YSE
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:30:59 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating Question
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I could see how writing down calls would help you work sats. It forces
you to really try and hear and understand the callsign of the person
you're trying to work.
What I do is when I hear a callsign I repeat it exactly as the op said
it in my head. This usually allows me to say it back when I want to
call them. Occasionally I get mixed up when people call me and I can't
repeat their call fully/accurately and I'll just say QSL as I know I
have it on my recording. I prefer not to do that of course.
Do what works for you!
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:45 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I certainly wouldn't rule out real-time logging by hand during the pass.
It may not be that difficult to position one's equipment to leave a free
hand to log heard calls and grids (and identify completed QSOs) during a
pass while receiving. That's exactly what I do, and I'm always
pedestrian-mobile when working the satellites. Sometimes I use my car's
trunk as a writing surface, but I'm carrying everything else on my person.
One hand holds the antenna, and the other holds a PTT switch (for the
linears) or presses the PTT switch on my earpiece only when I transmit, and
writes when I'm receiving. Recording audio is fine for post-pass
confirmation but provides no aid to the operator during the pass. Real-time
hand-logging made a huge and immediate positive impact on my ability to work
the satellites.
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 8:50:25 AM PST, John Brier
<johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> Don't forget to record at least yourself, if not the radio audio if
> you can get the audio connections working right (you might have to use
> a splitter). Repeat the callsign of the station you worked so the
> recorder picks it up. That way you know who you contacted. There is no
> time to write stuff down while holding all that gear.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 00:03:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating Question
Message-ID: <1941620079.4115231.1544745832166@????.?????.???>
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Experienced ops may be able to readily recall and repeat calls, but I found
it challenging to recall and repeat a call sign without seeing it in
writing. This was really holding me back from satellite operating until I
made an effort to free up my hand to log during the pass. Even experience
with contesting wasn't terribly helpful, since I almost always write or type
the call as I hear it, and when I transmit am really reading the call off
the log sheet (or my logging program) rather than recalling it from memory.
My aural recall is very poor compared to my visual recall, which is why this
visual memory jog is extremely helpful for me. It won't be as helpful for
someone with good aural recall.?
I also hear on Twitter about once a week about someone needing help
reconstructing QSOs on a pass because their recorder failed. I had that
happen to me once too, when I was not hand-logging because I was in the
dark. Now I use a headlamp when operating at night so I can read and write
even in the dark.?
This was a technique that required very little time and money to implement
and had huge, immediate results for me, so I try to share this advice with
newer ops as a potential technique for them to consider if they're
struggling. I occasionally hear online from some newer ops that have trouble
remembering the callsign of a station that called them or that they want to
call, and occasionally on the birds hear some folks struggle repeatedly to
repeat a full call sign. This is a technique that could help some of these
folks to operate more effectively and confidently, and better utilize the
limited resource of pass time, which benefits all users. But I certainly
don't think everyone needs to do this, especially those who are already well
experienced at satellite operating without it.?
Carry on!
73, Ryan AI6DO
On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 12:31:12 PM PST, John Brier
<johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
I could see how writing down calls would help you work sats. It forces
you to really try and hear and understand the callsign of the person
you're trying to work.
What I do is when I hear a callsign I repeat it exactly as the op said
it in my head. This usually allows me to say it back when I want to
call them. Occasionally I get mixed up when people call me and I can't
repeat their call fully/accurately and I'll just say QSL as I know I
have it on my recording. I prefer not to do that of course.
Do what works for you!
73, John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:17:16 -0500
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating Question
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I should figure out how to do it too, I am quite terrible at unfamiliar
call signs; or tounge twisters during a busy pass.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 19:05 Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???
wrote:
> Experienced ops may be able to readily recall and repeat calls, but I
> found it challenging to recall and repeat a call sign without seeing it in
> writing. This was really holding me back from satellite operating until I
> made an effort to free up my hand to log during the pass. Even experience
> with contesting wasn't terribly helpful, since I almost always write or
> type the call as I hear it, and when I transmit am really reading the call
> off the log sheet (or my logging program) rather than recalling it from
> memory. My aural recall is very poor compared to my visual recall, which is
> why this visual memory jog is extremely helpful for me. It won't be as
> helpful for someone with good aural recall.
>
> I also hear on Twitter about once a week about someone needing help
> reconstructing QSOs on a pass because their recorder failed. I had that
> happen to me once too, when I was not hand-logging because I was in the
> dark. Now I use a headlamp when operating at night so I can read and write
> even in the dark.
>
> This was a technique that required very little time and money to implement
> and had huge, immediate results for me, so I try to share this advice with
> newer ops as a potential technique for them to consider if they're
> struggling. I occasionally hear online from some newer ops that have
> trouble remembering the callsign of a station that called them or that they
> want to call, and occasionally on the birds hear some folks struggle
> repeatedly to repeat a full call sign. This is a technique that could help
> some of these folks to operate more effectively and confidently, and better
> utilize the limited resource of pass time, which benefits all users. But I
> certainly don't think everyone needs to do this, especially those who are
> already well experienced at satellite operating without it.
>
> Carry on!
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 12:31:12 PM PST, John Brier <
> johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I could see how writing down calls would help you work sats. It forces
> you to really try and hear and understand the callsign of the person
> you're trying to work.
>
> What I do is when I hear a callsign I repeat it exactly as the op said
> it in my head. This usually allows me to say it back when I want to
> call them. Occasionally I get mixed up when people call me and I can't
> repeat their call fully/accurately and I'll just say QSL as I know I
> have it on my recording. I prefer not to do that of course.
>
> Do what works for you!
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:31:09 -0500
From: Ernie <w8eh.ernie@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating Question
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My logging method is to start with a clean sheet of paper (in an 8.5x11
spiral notebook) and as soon as I hear a call, write it down and keep
going down the page. Even if they are working someone else or just
throwing out their call. If I hear their grid, I write that down next to
their call too. If I end up contacting them I write the exact time down
next to wherever their call & grid is on the page. That spreads out the
'writing' and helps recognize calls & grids on other passes, etc.
Ernie
On 12/13/2018 7:03 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Experienced ops may be able to readily recall and repeat calls, but I
found it challenging to recall and repeat a call sign without seeing it in
writing. This was really holding me back from satellite operating until I
made an effort to free up my hand to log during the pass. Even experience
with contesting wasn't terribly helpful, since I almost always write or type
the call as I hear it, and when I transmit am really reading the call off
the log sheet (or my logging program) rather than recalling it from memory.
My aural recall is very poor compared to my visual recall, which is why this
visual memory jog is extremely helpful for me. It won't be as helpful for
someone with good aural recall.
>
> I also hear on Twitter about once a week about someone needing help
reconstructing QSOs on a pass because their recorder failed. I had that
happen to me once too, when I was not hand-logging because I was in the
dark. Now I use a headlamp when operating at night so I can read and write
even in the dark.
>
> This was a technique that required very little time and money to implement
and had huge, immediate results for me, so I try to share this advice with
newer ops as a potential technique for them to consider if they're
struggling. I occasionally hear online from some newer ops that have trouble
remembering the callsign of a station that called them or that they want to
call, and occasionally on the birds hear some folks struggle repeatedly to
repeat a full call sign. This is a technique that could help some of these
folks to operate more effectively and confidently, and better utilize the
limited resource of pass time, which benefits all users. But I certainly
don't think everyone needs to do this, especially those who are already well
experienced at satellite operating without it.
>
> Carry on!
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 12:31:12 PM PST, John Brier
<johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I could see how writing down calls would help you work sats. It forces
> you to really try and hear and understand the callsign of the person
> you're trying to work.
>
> What I do is when I hear a callsign I repeat it exactly as the op said
> it in my head. This usually allows me to say it back when I want to
> call them. Occasionally I get mixed up when people call me and I can't
> repeat their call fully/accurately and I'll just say QSL as I know I
> have it on my recording. I prefer not to do that of course.
>
> Do what works for you!
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:32:46 -0500
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>, <ariss-press@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Kenilworth School and
Sixth Form, Kenilworth, United Kingdom
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An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Kenilworth School and Sixth Form, Kenilworth, United Kingdom
on 14 Dec. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 12:55 UTC. The
duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
contact will be direct between OR4ISS and GB4KSN. The contact should be
audible over the United Kingdom and adjacent areas. Interested parties are
invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to
be conducted in English. Watch for live stream at: https://live.ariss.org/
Kenilworth School and Sixth Form is located in the historic town of
Kenilworth in Warwickshire England, we are effectively in the dead centre of
England. The school is made up of 1880 students and just over 200 teaching
and support staff. We are a true comprehensive school meaning that we do not
select students on their academic abilities when starting school and teach
students with a range of academic abilities. This being said, we are the top
performing non selective school in the whole of Warwickshire, Coventry and
Solihull based on last year's GCSE results and have been judged as an
Outstanding school by Ofsted and have recently been awarded World Class
School status.
The school has a successful and very popular Space, Rocket and Robotics
extra-curricular club run by Mr Harwood - Suther. Students have taken part
in many activities such as building their own Galilean telescopes, rocket
cars and taking part in a number of robotic competitions organised by VEX,
as well as taking part in regular stargazing events. We have also been
extremely lucky to have hosted samples of moon rock for our students to look
at on two occasions.
The school has also been awarded the Space Education Quality Mark (Silver)
as well as the Teen Tech Award Centre for Innovation (Silver).
Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:
1. What surprised you the most when you entered space?
2. Do you believe there is some form of living extra-terrestrial intelligent
lifeforms beyond earth, not just bacteria and fossils?
3. During your training would you be able to describe your hardest moment and
your most enjoyable experience from your training?
4. How do you find the food in space compared to when you are back on earth?
5. When you were a child did you always know you wanted to be an astronaut
and fly to space?
6. Where would you prefer to live, on board The ISS or Earth?
7. What kind of plant life can be grown on the ISS as there is no oxygen or
CO2 in space?
8. Why do liquids when poured out in space, always form round blobs?
9. From information that I have read, male astronauts say that "space" smells
very metallic. Is it any different for female astronauts in space?
10. How will it be possible to live on Mars and plant trees, flowers, and
create an earth like environment?
11. If you are in space, how does the zero gravity make you taller?
12. Is the sunrise brighter than on earth?
13. I am interested about Europa which orbits Jupiter. If life was found on
Europa, what are the biological protocols to protect indigenous life and
samples on or from other worlds?
14. How long did it take to get used to life on the space station?
15. What is the daily day to day routine in regards to personal hygiene?
16. This is your first visit to the to the International Space Station. What
are your thoughts on another opportunity and perhaps take part in a
spacewalk?
17. Does it feel like you're moving when you're on the ISS or do you just
feel as though you are floating in the emptiness of space?
18. What do you think will change in space stations in the future decade?
19. What's your favourite thing to do in space?
20. When you come back to earth do you see the earth differently than you did
before you left?
21. What is the strangest thing you have seen in space?
PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS).
To receive our Twitter updates, follow @????????????
Next planned event(s):
TBD
About ARISS:
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in
Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).
The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,
engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts
via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in
classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced
amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a
variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students,
teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies,
and amateur radio. For more informa
tion, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.
Thank you & 73,
David - AA4KN
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