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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FW: Doppler file (Ted Krempa)
   2. Re: FW: Doppler file (Ted Krempa)
   3. Fox telemetry software question (Ron VE8RT)
   4. Re: Cheap rotator setup (R. Chastain)
   5. Re: Fox telemetry software question (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   6. Re: Fox telemetry software question (Burns Fisher)
   7. Office Closed (Martha)
   8. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-22 03:30	UTC
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 12:32:15 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Dave Taylor'" <w8aas@???????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: Doppler file
Message-ID: <003001d498a3$18f5a530$4ae0ef90$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"

Thank you very much, Dave....I think I have it now !!

Merry Christmas !!

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Taylor [mailto:w8aas@???????.????
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:37 PM
To: Ted Krempa
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: Doppler file

Keps are the Keplarian elements that define a satellite?s orbit and are used
to predict its location.  You have to update these every few days (daily for
ISS, which reboots its orbit from time to time).  You trigger the update
manually, using the Update Keps button, and specify the update source for
the keps ? the nasabare keps from AMSAT are a good choice (they include
AO-85).

The sqf file contains information that defines the operational modes of a
satellite (frequencies, tones, modulation, and so on).  This info gets
entered once when the satellite is new.  It might need to change if the
frequency drifts with age or if a new satellite isn?t operating as expected,
but generally remains fixed.  You edit this file with a text editor.

Dave, W8AAS

> On Dec 19, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> Thank you....it sounds like I have a misunderstanding about keps vs
sql....I'll read up on that
>
> Thank you, again
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen E. Belter [mailto:seb@??????.????
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 4:54 PM
> To: Bob
> Cc: Ted Krempa; AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: Doppler file
>
> Ted,
>
> There is a window that allows you to download and update the Keps.  Any
changes to the sqf files for new satellites or modes are performed by you
manually.
>
> 73, Steve N9IP
> --
> Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
>
>
>> On Dec 19, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ted,
>>
>> As nice as it would seem, it really isn't possible to automatically update
>> the DOPPLER.SQF file.  The most important reason is that each station has a
>> different transmit and receive offset due to different RX and TX chain
>> frequency calibration, drift, etc.  It would be possible to have a baseline
>> SQF file (without compensation) and a few hams do publish that.
>>
>> You can manually update the Kep files yourself.
>>
>> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:36 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, can anyone else answer my question below.....(Joanne must be busy)
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ted
>>> K7TRK
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Ted Krempa
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:49 PM
>>> To: 'JoAnne Maenpaa'; 'Dave'
>>> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
>>>
>>> Good stuff, Joanne...thanks
>>>
>>> One thing, though, that I have never understood, however:  Does SatPC32
>>> properly update keps and the sqf data when the 'update' option is used in
>>> the program? Or do we need to keep updating manually. I can understand
with
>>> a new sat, manually trying to find the right data, but after the sats are
>>> rolling along for a few weeks the normal sites that identify keps usually
>>> have that data current.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>>> 73, Ted
>>> K7TRK
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of JoAnne
>>> Maenpaa
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 5:54 AM
>>> To: 'Dave'
>>> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
>>>
>>> Perhaps these messages from the amsat-bb from a few weeks ago might offer
>>> a starting point?
>>>
>>> https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2018-October/069839.html
>>> https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2018-November/070451.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
>>> k9jkm@?????.???
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Dave
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:40 AM
>>>> To: James McIrvin
>>>> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
>>>>
>>>> I?m not sure if you received a private response but I have a similar
>>> issue.
>>>> I tried to use SatPC32 the other day and found many of the satellite
>>>> frequencies were not correct. I?m going to have manually edit a bunch of
>>>> them unless I can find someone with a good set of files.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> N2OA
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 12:51:39 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'John Kludt'" <johnnykludt@?????.???>,	"'Bob'" <WB4SON@?????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: Doppler file
Message-ID: <003d01d498a5$ce8697e0$6b93c7a0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"

Thank you, John. Understood now

73, Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of John Kludt
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:33 AM
To: Bob
Cc: AMSAT-BB; Ted Krempa
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: Doppler file

Ted,

Have the above answered your questions?  Seems to me two different issues
have been mixed here as the Keps and Doppler.sqf are two different items
and updating one does not up date the other

   1. The Keps can be updated from a number of sources to be found on the
   drop down under the <Satellites> tab
   2. Doppler.SQF is manually updated by you when a new satellite is added
   to the family using Notepad or some kind of text editor.  Be sure to follow
   the rules embedded in Doppler.SQF when messing with the file.  You can save
   a copy that has not been modified the the Uplink calibration process as
   Doppler.REF or some such thing.  And, yes, each radio has slightly
   different calibration offsets in Doppler.SQF.  That is what I use the 4
   different configuration options for <Setup><Configurations>.  I use one
   config for a pair of FT-817's another for an IC-910H and a third for Flex
   6600.
   3. Don't forget if you are adding a new FM satellite to Doppler.SQF you
   also need to go into Subtones.SQF and add the new satellite to that list as
   well so the T0 > T1 >T2 toggle works correctly.  Again follow the embedded
   instructions carefully.  This is another file that can be manipulated with
   a text editor like Notepad.

Hope this helps,

John

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:59 PM Bob <WB4SON@?????.???> wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>
> As nice as it would seem, it really isn't possible to automatically update
> the DOPPLER.SQF file.  The most important reason is that each station has a
> different transmit and receive offset due to different RX and TX chain
> frequency calibration, drift, etc.  It would be possible to have a baseline
> SQF file (without compensation) and a few hams do publish that.
>
> You can manually update the Kep files yourself.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:36 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hello, can anyone else answer my question below.....(Joanne must be busy)
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Ted
> Krempa
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:49 PM
> > To: 'JoAnne Maenpaa'; 'Dave'
> > Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
> >
> > Good stuff, Joanne...thanks
> >
> > One thing, though, that I have never understood, however:  Does SatPC32
> > properly update keps and the sqf data when the 'update' option is used in
> > the program? Or do we need to keep updating manually. I can understand
> with
> > a new sat, manually trying to find the right data, but after the sats are
> > rolling along for a few weeks the normal sites that identify keps usually
> > have that data current.
> >
> > Thanks for any input
> >
> > 73, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of JoAnne
> > Maenpaa
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 5:54 AM
> > To: 'Dave'
> > Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
> >
> > Perhaps these messages from the amsat-bb from a few weeks ago might offer
> > a starting point?
> >
> > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2018-October/069839.html
> > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2018-November/070451.html
> >
> > --
> > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> > k9jkm@?????.???
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Dave
> > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:40 AM
> > > To: James McIrvin
> > > Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dobbler file
> > >
> > > I?m not sure if you received a private response but I have a similar
> > issue.
> > > I tried to use SatPC32 the other day and found many of the satellite
> > > frequencies were not correct. I?m going to have manually edit a bunch
> of
> > > them unless I can find someone with a good set of files.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > N2OA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 22:00:03 -0700
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox telemetry software question
Message-ID: <20181220220003.cb03be48013340289a9f0eba@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

   I have the telemetry software up and running on my Mint (latest
version 19) Linux machine.  It only provides tracking for AO-85, and I
read the note on the first pages of the manual about tracking other
satellites about the file names.  I'll take another look at the manual
tomorrow, but I would like to have the tracking info on the screen for
the other satellites listed.  The .tle file I did find was named
Fox1.tle (as I recall), I added others under AO-XX.tle where AO-XX is
the name listed on the GUI control panel, but apparently it isn't
recognized as there is no change.  No doubt there is a quick fix.

   Another question, would the occassional telemetry upload to amsat
from my QTH grid square DP22 be of any use?

   The receivers at the moment are a FT-726R, or an Icom R-7000 using
the recorder audio output.  When I get the software sorted out for an
SDRPlay 1A I may use that instead.

   63  Ron VE8RT DP22

--
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:54:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R. Chastain" <suenrod@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cheap rotator setup
Message-ID: <1025647132.7609968.1545353643508@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 This AZ/EL rotor looks VERY impressive!! I ordered all the parts but have
not started it yet.
Rotator MkII


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    On Thursday, December 20, 2018, 10:51:41 AM EST, Robert
<robert@?????.???> wrote:

 Jerry,

Those are all such great points that I would like to add, with your
consent, most of your comments to the same page.

When we lived 100 yards from the shore of the Gulf of Mexico in
Clearwater Beach, I often saw the same results with my Elk standing on
my high rise balcony where i could very often operate below the horizon
based on the tracking programs.

Backing up to a forest like I do now v. a straight ocean view has a
major impact on operating sats. You heard it here first. In my case,
Bob's, WB4APR, recommendations are moot since I have an 18' telescoping
mast in a forest of 65' trees meaning even in winter that I need 22
degrees just to hear and work any bird...so I miss from almost all
compass points the ability to follow Bob's excellent advice...and it is
killing me - especially on all points west as shown by my VUCC and WAS
lists...

Thanks, again, for the great comments and suggestions, Jerry!

73,

Robert

 ?-.- ...-- .-. .-. .-.
73 de Robert K3RRR
http://K3RRR.com
@?????????
http://YouTube.com/K3RRR
-.- ...-- .-. .-. .-.

On 12/20/2018 9:28 AM, k5oe@???.??? wrote:
> Robert,
> Nice piece of work!? Thanks for sharing all of it in such great (and easy
to replicate) detail.? I just wanted to add some comments on (the debate
about) antenna pointing angle for LEOs... based on many (too many?) years of
chasing states, countries, grids, etc.:? it may all depend on your own
particular situation AND goals (i.e., there is no one magic
formula/solution/design for everyone).
>
> The single biggest factor (after getting past HOAs, partner objections,
and fear of heights) is:? can you see the horizon unobstructed by building
and foliage?? If trees are a problem, are they deciduous... so possibly not
an issue in winter?? If you do have blockage, Bob's (WB4APR) recommendation
of pointing the antennas at 15 degrees above the blockage is pragmatic and
well proven.? Read no further.
>
> If, however, you are lucky enough to see the horizon, you might consider
pointing your antennas directly at it.? This gives you maximum gain from the
antenna AND maximum ground gain (you will know it when you hear it,
typically under 5 degrees) when the satellite is the farthest from you,
giving you brief access to the farthest/hardest/most rare states, countries,
and grids.? I can't count the number of rare grids I have snagged at -1 and
-2 degrees (yes, negative, over-the-horizon) just as the downlink faded!?
The null you may/will experience directly overhead is very brief and only on
passes typically above 75 degrees.? Those contacts are the easy ones anyway.
>
> One final word:? if you have worked everyone within near-LEO range and you
ONLY want those at your horizon, orient (regardless of pointing angle) your
antennas at horizontal (flat) to maximize your ground gain potential.? There
is practically no ground gain on vertical polarization, and you lose half if
you orient your antenna at 45 degrees.? You will only hear below-the-horizon
signals with horizontal polarization.
>
> 73,
> Jerry, K5OE
> Satellite WAS/DXCC/VUCC 1,000
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:56 PM
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cheap rotator setup
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> I am the author of that webpage you're using for a guide for your own set
up. I humbly appreciate that you have chosen the page for some guidance -
that page is one of the Top 5 pages at my site so lots of folks have
successfully used it. Several of them have been pushing me to submit this to
QST as an article which I may do (my last one was exactly
> 30 years ago - so it may be time for the next one.)
>
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::
> Note that I extensively edited the web page today so I genuinely am
seeking additional help from all to help make this page even better and to
give it more clarity or correct any technical errors - especially before I
submit the page info to QST....
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> Eli, as a result of your question, I just added the below info to the web
page - along with a slider that shows 31 new photos that give more details
and a detailed diagram of the antenna's beamwidth....check out the page for
more info since those cannot be shown here...but for those who don't want to
look, here is a highlight quote from the page to hopefully answer Eli's
question.
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> ?Why Are You Using a 45? Angle for Fixed Elevation Instead of the
Recommended 15???
>
> I thought I had better add a comment as to why I am obviously using a 45?
angle instead of the recommended 15?.
>
> I am personally surrounded by RF eating 65 foot trees and a RF eating
two-story house. As a consequence, I chose to move the A430S10 50? antenna
beamwidth (see below) and center them on a fixed 45? instead of 15?.
>
> Ostensibly, I would lose coverage from 0? to 20? (45? center angle minus
half of the 50? beamwidth of the antennas, or 25? =? 20? ) by doing this ?
but I?m going to lose those angles (and then some) anyway because of the
tree and house QRM.
>
> Trust me when I tell you that trees and houses do a damnably good job of
blocking RF at satellite frequencies ? in my case below 30? in summer and
22? in winter! (This is going to be one of my next videos on my YouTube
channel at http://Youtube.com/K3RRR.)
>
> Beamwidth is loosely defined as the width of the main lobe of radiation
for both transmit and receive. This is a whole discussion by itself but for
my cheapie antenna system, you?re better off? with a wide beamwidth versus a
more narrow beamwidth for your antennas. The following diagram from Diamond
Antennas shows the comparison of what that width of the main lobe looks like
with my orange arrows showing where they cross the
> 3 db points.
>
> If you kinda sorta extrapolate, you can see that an imaginary line from
the 3 db intersection point to the outer circle would translate to about 25?
either side of the zero mark ? for a total spread from both sides equal to
about 50? of beamwidth. (The other chart shows the same info for Diamond?s
bigger brother the A430S15 ? 15 elements instead of 10.
> you can see how much narrower the beamwidth is albeit with not that much
difference in gain.)
>
> In more technical terms, the A430S10 has an E-Plane 3 dB Beamwidth = 50
degrees. In layman?s language, this means that you will have a good receive
AND transmit signal 25? above and 25? below your center angle ? which in my
case is 45? due to the constraints of Home Depot.
>
> Home Depot?
>
> I picked 45? because Home Depot sells PVC connectors for that angle ? and
only that angle since 90? angles really are not that useful for the hamsats!
>
> Again, with these antennas having a 50? beamwidth, my setup handled passes
between 20? and 70?. This same wide beamwidth also makes pointing the
antenna more forgiving ? which is important for cheap rotators which are not
all that accurate between calibrations.
>
> (The E-Plane 3 dB Beamwidth = a whopping 95 degrees for the A144S5 two
meter five element Yagi ? so it was not the limiting consideration.)
>
> But enough about me and why I chose 45?. Let?s talk about you and your
need for 15?.
>
> Permanently Bending Schedule 40 PVC With My Wife?s Help
>
> I need to plagiarize myself and steal a couple of paragraphs I have on
this other webpage on my site:
>
> Attic AMSAT Antenna ? Working the Ham Radio Satellites With A Rotatable,
Computer Controlled, Yagi Attic Antenna
>
> ?If you have played with PVC for antennas for a while you will already
know they don?t make 15? connectors. So, I was faced with trying to bend a
straight piece PVC ? which I thought was going to be difficult.
>
> ?As it turns out, it is surprisingly trivial to heat even Schedule 40 PVC
so that it becomes bendable with a standard 1500 watt hair dryer in less
than 10 minutes of your time! (Thanks to YouTube for this education!)?
>
> Wife Jan?s hair dryer actually had some attachments and gizmos which
focused the heat better than mine so I swiped hers for this task. She was
surprisingly unamused and recommended I get a heat gun for future
applications. I obediently followed her recommendation and got this
particular heat gun.
>
> Something about briar patches came to mind for some reason ? even though
there was no mention in the Amazon description.
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Eli, I have just now added the above information to the cheap antenna page
? I appreciate the heads up on helping make this clearer for other folks too.
>
> Hope this helps...and hope to work you on the birds soon!
>
> 73,
>
> Robert K3RRR
>
>? ? -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-.
> 73 de Robert K3RRR
> http://K3RRR.com
> @?????????
> http://YouTube.com/K3RRR
> -.- ...-- .-. .-. .-.
>
> On 12/17/2018 6:37 PM, Eli Caul wrote:
>> Hi folks -
>>
>> In my ongoing effort to figure out how to use the SSB satellites, I
duplicated this setup over the weekend:
>>
>> http://k3rrr.com/cheap-computer-controlled-tv-rotor-for-amsat-satellit
>> es-and-includes-free-satellite-tracking-with-pstrotator-and-the-usb-ui
>> rt/
>>
>> I bought a list of materials based on the photograph,? and it didn't
occur to me that the PVC parts pictured put the antennas at approximately 45
degrees and not the recommended 15 degrees.
>>
>> Has anyone done this setup?? If so, how did you assemble it so that the
antennas ended up at the recommended angle?
>>
>> There were a couple of higher angle passes yesterday (one was at 50
degrees) but so far I haven't been able to 'loop' the satellite.? I'm using
a Yaesu FT-991A for uplink and an Airspy SDR on the downlink.
>>
>> Advice appreciated.? So far I've gotten some excellent advice from AMSAT
members and I really appreciate the groups level of expertise and patience
with my fundamental questions.
>>
>> 73 de KK6ZHZ,
>>
>> - Eli Caul
>>
>> Director of Customer Care
>> Sonic
>> 707-237-6201 Direct
>> 707-521-0131 Faxline
>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 07:47:40 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox telemetry software question
Message-ID: <001801d49933$bdbcb5f0$393621d0$@???>
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Hello Ron,

> It only provides tracking for AO-85, and I read the note on the
> first pages of the manual about tracking other satellites about
> the file names.

This page helped me to add Fox-1Cliff AO-95 into FoxTelem:
http://www.g0kla.com/workbench/2018-11-11.php

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 10:11:28 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@???????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox telemetry software question
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxW5gSz-uKzqch3B2BagmTAKQ6nax3_JJuLhOpsZC_7bTA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Ron,

DP22 telemetry would be fabulous!!  Holler if you need more help getting
more sats enabled

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:47 AM JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@???????.???> wrote:

> Hello Ron,
>
> > It only provides tracking for AO-85, and I read the note on the
> > first pages of the manual about tracking other satellites about
> > the file names.
>
> This page helped me to add Fox-1Cliff AO-95 into FoxTelem:
> http://www.g0kla.com/workbench/2018-11-11.php
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm@?????.???
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:16:14 -0500
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID:
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The AMSAT Office will be closed from 3:00PM today - Friday, January 4th.  I
will not be checking voice mail or email.  Any orders placed, will be
processed after I return.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

--
73- Martha


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:42:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: <aj9n@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-22
03:30	UTC
Message-ID: <1091381522.8111604.1545450120557@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-22 03:30 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Next contact is expected to be scheduled sometime during the week of
2019-01-14.

?

Exp. 56 back on earth. (***)

Congratulations to all on a job well done! (***)

Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT

Alexander Gerst KF5ONO

Sergei Propopev

?

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS-US program?s education proposal window open Oct. 1 - Nov. 30, 2018
has now closed.? The next window should go open in the spring of 2019.



The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/??



Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

?

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, click here.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Keigo Komuro, JA1KAB, Japan
Amateur Radio League (JARL)

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR)

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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*

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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*


Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to?
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.

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Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS???
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete?
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ?

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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:?


Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 108


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The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date
webpages?were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format?YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS


The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-12-22 03:30 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1285.
Each school counts as 1?event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1228.
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47.

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL?information may be found at:??
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html?

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-12-14 18:00 UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 56 back on earth. (***)

Congratulations to all on a job well done! (***)

?

Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT

Alexander Gerst KF5ONO

Sergei Propopev

?

Exp. 58 on orbit

Oleg Konenenko

David St-Jacques KG5FYI

Anne McClain

?


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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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