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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth. (Paul Stoetzer)
2. Re: I want this. I want that. Here comes another FM LEO sat.
(Paul Stoetzer)
3. Re: AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth. (Bryce Salmi)
4. Re: Inclusion (Gus)
5. Re: I want this. I want that. Here comes another FM LEO sat.
(Bryce Salmi)
6. Re: Amazon Smile (Gus)
7. Re: Amazon Smile (kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxxx
8. Re: Amazon Smile (Bryce Salmi)
9. Re: AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth. (Gus)
10. Re: Inclusion (satcoms?) (Robert Bruninga)
11. Re: Amazon Smile (Gus)
12. Re: Amazon Smile (kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:28:11 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth.
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Rich,
>From your email:
"It is hard to use the birds in our K4AMG mentoring program since their
orbits are mostly incompatible with classroom times. NO SOLUTION IN SITE."
I would disagree that no solution is in site. Check the pass times for
EO-79, EO-80, and UKube-1. You'll find they are very convenient for
classroom demonstrations. We just need to be patient and wait until
they are activated for us to use. AO-73 also passes over at good times
for classroom telemetry demonstrations.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Been a member of AMSAT since the early 80s. Like most of you joined to
> support the SAT Program. Most of us probably joined for the same reason.
>
> How does AMSAT survive? Survival is through volunteers and financial
> resources. Where does that come from????
>
> Like any other amateur radio club only a few help do!!
>
> A while back I asked what is AMSAT's STRATEGIC PLAN?
>
> Technology has changed drastically since I joined. Has the plan changed.
>
> I agree FM satellites are the easiest point of entrance for a new SAT
> communicator. I disagree with I one frequency SAT. That is an expensive
> way to fill in the GAP.
>
> FOX seems to be a great answer to entry levels operators, possibly the
> majority of the operators.
>
> With that said, Linear Transponders like AO 7 and FO 29 at higher altitudes
> are needed. We have lost VO 52.
>
> It is hard to use the birds in our K4AMG mentoring program since their
> orbits are mostly incompatible with classroom times. NO SOLUTION IN SITE.
>
> So there is a need to plan ahead for more accessible birds with more Linear
> transponders and other features. How do we get there?
>
> A strategic plan accesses the current mission and goals to achieve a future
> vision.
>
> Your volunteer time and money can make this happen.
>
> One step would be enhanced Field Organization.
>
> When we started the K4AMG MARC, Inc. there was no field organization in our
> area. Plenty of help from A FAR but no one with hands on experience
> locally.
>
> Just a member
>
> Rich
> W4BUE
> PRES K4AMG.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:33:04 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Buxton <amsat@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I want this. I want that. Here comes another
FM LEO sat.
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Jerry,
Thanks for the clarification. It is unfortunate that it got removed,
but understandable. Hopefully the batteries will last the entire 11
year lifetime of the orbit and, if not, that newer and better
satellites will continually be launched!
Is the feature that allows the FM transponder to function in the event
of IHU failure still on board?
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Jerry Buxton <amsat@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On 7/22/2014 9:21 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>> Off the top of my head:
>>
>> AO-51 - Battery failure (Problem fixed in Fox series - shorted
>> batteries will be cut loose from the circuit and the satellite will
>> operate when in the sun)
>
> This is an original conops for Fox-1 that did not make it to reality. In
> fact this requirement was removed over a year ago because it could not be
> suitably implemented to fit in the space available on the PCB. You see, at
> that time new inhibit requirements that were received from the launch
> providers caused us to have to re-engineer the battery board. Moving the
> battery fail feature to another board was not possible because we could not
> afford to be redesigning the whole satellite, moving things around from each
> board to another to find room, in the time left to delivery (at that point
> the launch had not yet slipped to 2015 and we were due to deliver in March
> 2014). The choice had to be made to cut the battery fail protection from
> the battery board in order to incorporate the inhibits, to make the launch.
> The removal of this feature was brought forth at the Symposium last year,
> but the tale lives on. Yes, it was an outstanding feature but as has been
> pointed out in some of the other emails going on right now, there is a real
> limit to what we can fit in a 1U CubeSat and in the time and under the
> provisions allowed by our rideshare.
> Don't think it didn't get cut without a fight! :-)
>
> The Fox-1A Engineering Unit is sitting on the official AMSAT test table in
> my shack right now, having arrived FedEx this morning after some time "in
> the shop" for fixes to hardware that we found in the first round of EU
> testing and having a new IHU all installed. I'm getting ready to load new
> software with the latest DSP and flight features. Stay tuned...
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:34:47 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth.
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Having three Fox1 cubesats in orbit will significantly increase the
opportunities too :D Power in numbers!
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> From your email:
>
> "It is hard to use the birds in our K4AMG mentoring program since their
> orbits are mostly incompatible with classroom times. NO SOLUTION IN SITE."
>
> I would disagree that no solution is in site. Check the pass times for
> EO-79, EO-80, and UKube-1. You'll find they are very convenient for
> classroom demonstrations. We just need to be patient and wait until
> they are activated for us to use. AO-73 also passes over at good times
> for classroom telemetry demonstrations.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > Been a member of AMSAT since the early 80s. Like most of you joined to
> > support the SAT Program. Most of us probably joined for the same reason.
> >
> > How does AMSAT survive? Survival is through volunteers and financial
> > resources. Where does that come from????
> >
> > Like any other amateur radio club only a few help do!!
> >
> > A while back I asked what is AMSAT's STRATEGIC PLAN?
> >
> > Technology has changed drastically since I joined. Has the plan changed.
> >
> > I agree FM satellites are the easiest point of entrance for a new SAT
> > communicator. I disagree with I one frequency SAT. That is an expensive
> > way to fill in the GAP.
> >
> > FOX seems to be a great answer to entry levels operators, possibly the
> > majority of the operators.
> >
> > With that said, Linear Transponders like AO 7 and FO 29 at higher
> altitudes
> > are needed. We have lost VO 52.
> >
> > It is hard to use the birds in our K4AMG mentoring program since their
> > orbits are mostly incompatible with classroom times. NO SOLUTION IN
> SITE.
> >
> > So there is a need to plan ahead for more accessible birds with more
> Linear
> > transponders and other features. How do we get there?
> >
> > A strategic plan accesses the current mission and goals to achieve a
> future
> > vision.
> >
> > Your volunteer time and money can make this happen.
> >
> > One step would be enhanced Field Organization.
> >
> > When we started the K4AMG MARC, Inc. there was no field organization in
> our
> > area. Plenty of help from A FAR but no one with hands on experience
> > locally.
> >
> > Just a member
> >
> > Rich
> > W4BUE
> > PRES K4AMG.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:39:49 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion
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On 07/22/2014 11:54 AM, Kevin M wrote:
> I've heard comments that basically imply anyone who wants to go outside
with an HT and wave a yagi around is stupid.
I will respond to this because of comments I've made in the past, which
may have been misunderstood.
Standing outside with a yagi in hand and the monsoon trickling down my
neck isn't for me. It is demonstrably a valid way to make contacts and
an excellent way to demonstrate how satellite operation can occur with
minimalist equipment. But as far as I'm concerned, it IS NOT the
ultimate objective of a satellite operator. It is the BARE MINIMUM of
satellite operation, and there is no way I'm going to be satisfied with
that for more than one or two passes.
To imply to the uneducated observer and potential future satellite
operator, that standing in the rain is the pinnacle of hamsat ground
station technology is (in my opinion) counter productive and, yes,
stupid. As would be implying that a single-band, rock-bound QRP CW rig
is the ultimate in ham HF technology. There is nothing wrong with QRP
or broomstick-waving, far from it. And to those who enjoy it, more
power to you! But if broomstick-waving is all I can hope to achieve in
satellite operation, then I'll be very disappointed.
--
Gus 8P6SM
G-QRP 6941
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:41:29 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Buxton <amsat@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I want this. I want that. Here comes another
FM LEO sat.
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Being involved in the power system, I personally am hoping to get this
included in the near future on some of the next Fox's. We will see!
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Jerry Buxton <amsat@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On 7/22/2014 9:21 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>
>> Off the top of my head:
>>
>> AO-51 - Battery failure (Problem fixed in Fox series - shorted
>> batteries will be cut loose from the circuit and the satellite will
>> operate when in the sun)
>>
> This is an original conops for Fox-1 that did not make it to reality. In
> fact this requirement was removed over a year ago because it could not be
> suitably implemented to fit in the space available on the PCB. You see, at
> that time new inhibit requirements that were received from the launch
> providers caused us to have to re-engineer the battery board. Moving the
> battery fail feature to another board was not possible because we could not
> afford to be redesigning the whole satellite, moving things around from
> each board to another to find room, in the time left to delivery (at that
> point the launch had not yet slipped to 2015 and we were due to deliver in
> March 2014). The choice had to be made to cut the battery fail protection
> from the battery board in order to incorporate the inhibits, to make the
> launch.
> The removal of this feature was brought forth at the Symposium last year,
> but the tale lives on. Yes, it was an outstanding feature but as has been
> pointed out in some of the other emails going on right now, there is a real
> limit to what we can fit in a 1U CubeSat and in the time and under the
> provisions allowed by our rideshare.
> Don't think it didn't get cut without a fight! :-)
>
> The Fox-1A Engineering Unit is sitting on the official AMSAT test table in
> my shack right now, having arrived FedEx this morning after some time "in
> the shop" for fixes to hardware that we found in the first round of EU
> testing and having a new IHU all installed. I'm getting ready to load new
> software with the latest DSP and flight features. Stay tuned...
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:43:00 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
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It isn't a lot of revenue earned but it's one more capacitor on a
cubesat board, I guess. The thing is to persuade more people to sign up.
On 07/22/2014 12:03 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote:
> Thats actually an impressive total, the percentage for AMSAT Is small but
> wow! Every bit counts.
>
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Wait, if my math is right that means a total of $13,324 has gone through
>> Amazon smile in the name of AMSAT!
>>
>>
>>
>> - Brent
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To date, we have received $66.62 from Amazon Smile
>>>
>>> 73- Martha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've also signed up, and have probably bought a few hundred dollars
>> worth
>>>> of stuff since then. .5% is not huge, and is probably more helpful to
>>>> Amazon (via publicity) than to AMSAT, but it can't hurt.
>>>>
>>>> I would add that usually I go directly to the Smile page with my link,
>>> but
>>>> on the rare occasion when I might follow another link or even type in
>>>> amazon.com, Amazon reminds me that I am signed up for Smile. Not bad.
>>>>
>>>> Burns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> I also signed up and have bought a few things but it is my
>>> understanding
>>>>> only 0.5% of the purchase price of eligible products goes to AMSAT.
>> So
>>> if
>>>>> you buy a DVD worth $19.99 and it's eligible for AmazonSmile, roughly
>>>> $0.10
>>>>> of that $19.99 will go to AMSAT but I think Amazon waits until
>>> something
>>>>> like $100 is collected before sending any money to AMSAT.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
>>>>> Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
>>>>> http://bryanherbert.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the
>>> author.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the author.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73- Martha
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> of the author.
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>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:50:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
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It just got me to sign up. I spend at least 10% of the total AMSAT smile
amount every year on Amazon. If everyone signs up the total would be
significantly larger...
73 Jeff KB2M
----- Original Message -----
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:43:00 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
It isn't a lot of revenue earned but it's one more capacitor on a
cubesat board, I guess. The thing is to persuade more people to sign up.
On 07/22/2014 12:03 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote:
> Thats actually an impressive total, the percentage for AMSAT Is small but
> wow! Every bit counts.
>
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Wait, if my math is right that means a total of $13,324 has gone through
>> Amazon smile in the name of AMSAT!
>>
>>
>>
>> - Brent
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To date, we have received $66.62 from Amazon Smile
>>>
>>> 73- Martha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've also signed up, and have probably bought a few hundred dollars
>> worth
>>>> of stuff since then. .5% is not huge, and is probably more helpful to
>>>> Amazon (via publicity) than to AMSAT, but it can't hurt.
>>>>
>>>> I would add that usually I go directly to the Smile page with my link,
>>> but
>>>> on the rare occasion when I might follow another link or even type in
>>>> amazon.com, Amazon reminds me that I am signed up for Smile. Not bad.
>>>>
>>>> Burns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> I also signed up and have bought a few things but it is my
>>> understanding
>>>>> only 0.5% of the purchase price of eligible products goes to AMSAT.
>> So
>>> if
>>>>> you buy a DVD worth $19.99 and it's eligible for AmazonSmile, roughly
>>>> $0.10
>>>>> of that $19.99 will go to AMSAT but I think Amazon waits until
>>> something
>>>>> like $100 is collected before sending any money to AMSAT.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
>>>>> Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
>>>>> http://bryanherbert.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the
>>> author.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the author.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73- Martha
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> of the author.
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>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
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--
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The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:52:30 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
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$66 is close to one 4 layer PCB test board for testing out an idea for
example. It's not much, but it certainly helps. Capacitors are like $0.01
each nowadays.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> It isn't a lot of revenue earned but it's one more capacitor on a cubesat
> board, I guess. The thing is to persuade more people to sign up.
>
>
> On 07/22/2014 12:03 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote:
>
>> Thats actually an impressive total, the percentage for AMSAT Is small but
>> wow! Every bit counts.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Wait, if my math is right that means a total of $13,324 has gone through
>>> Amazon smile in the name of AMSAT!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx
>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> To date, we have received $66.62 from Amazon Smile
>>>>
>>>> 73- Martha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've also signed up, and have probably bought a few hundred dollars
>>>>>
>>>> worth
>>>
>>>> of stuff since then. .5% is not huge, and is probably more helpful to
>>>>> Amazon (via publicity) than to AMSAT, but it can't hurt.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would add that usually I go directly to the Smile page with my link,
>>>>>
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>> on the rare occasion when I might follow another link or even type in
>>>>> amazon.com, Amazon reminds me that I am signed up for Smile. Not bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Burns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>
>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also signed up and have bought a few things but it is my
>>>>>>
>>>>> understanding
>>>>
>>>>> only 0.5% of the purchase price of eligible products goes to AMSAT.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So
>>>
>>>> if
>>>>
>>>>> you buy a DVD worth $19.99 and it's eligible for AmazonSmile, roughly
>>>>>>
>>>>> $0.10
>>>>>
>>>>>> of that $19.99 will go to AMSAT but I think Amazon waits until
>>>>>>
>>>>> something
>>>>
>>>>> like $100 is collected before sending any money to AMSAT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
>>>>>> Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
>>>>>> http://bryanherbert.com
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>> those of the
>>>
>>>> author.
>>>>
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>
> --
> Gus 8P6SM
> The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:03:53 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT where are we going for what it is worth.
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On 07/22/2014 01:18 PM, Rich/wa4bue wrote:
> So there is a need to plan ahead for more accessible birds with more
> Linear
> transponders and other features. How do we get there?
We need wideband software receivers that can look at the entire
passband, detect individual signals and determine type, and translate
them into the downlink passband based upon an operational ruleset that
is policy driven and easily changed. Allow SSB, FM and Phil's DV at the
same time if that is what we want. Or have FM only on Friday nights to
encourage newcomers. Or pass SSB but simultaneously convert to FM on
another part of the passband so the FM only guys can hear the action.
Or whatever big imaginations and good drugs can dream up.
And since HEO is apparently out of the question, we need meshed
satellite groups so that what you uplink on one bird can be heard on the
downlink of all of the birds in the mesh. So we can extend operating
times beyond a handful of minutes.
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:05:43 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion (satcoms?)
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But if the goal of satellite operation is from the shack-potato position,
why not just use the internet and not bother.
Don't forget the TOTAL FAILURE of the original SAT-PHONE industry when
they ignored cellphones and fiber. No one would bother with a sat-phone
when their $9/mo cell phone could do the job almost 99% of the time and
call anywhere on the planet. The only thing SAT-PHONEs turned out to be
good for are wilderness communications, and there are plenty of places on
earth that fit that category. Probably 90% of the earths surface is a
wireless desert. But the 99% of the worlds population lives in that
wired-10%.
I have also heard that these days, " all of the satellite communications
carried by all the comm satellites worldwide could fit on a SINGLE fiber.
The value of ham radio is providing communications where other systems
cannot. And of course, playing with toys just for fun.
Bob, Wb4APR
-----Original Message-----
>> I've heard comments that basically imply anyone
>> who wants to go outside with an HT and wave a yagi around is stupid.
> Standing outside with a yagi in hand and the monsoon
> trickling down my neck isn't for me. It is demonstrably
> a valid way to make contacts and an excellent way to
> demonstrate how satellite operation can occur with minimalist equipment.
> But as far as I'm concerned, it IS NOT the ultimate objective
> of a satellite operator....
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:05:48 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
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On 07/22/2014 01:52 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote:
> Capacitors are like $0.01 each nowadays.
We call it HUMOR. :-)
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:04:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
Message-ID:
<1159978068.679243.1406052299413.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>
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Easy Art....
I just went to smile.amazon.com to sign up. It also explains the whole
thing...
73 Jeff KB2M
----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:52:48 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
Suggest explaining:
[1] the nature of Amazon Smile,
[2] how to sign up.
Hope this helps.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 22-Jul-2014, at 01:50 PM, kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> It just got me to sign up. I spend at least 10% of the total AMSAT smile
amount every year on Amazon. If everyone signs up the total would be
significantly larger...
>
> 73 Jeff KB2M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:43:00 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
>
> It isn't a lot of revenue earned but it's one more capacitor on a
> cubesat board, I guess. The thing is to persuade more people to sign up.
>
> On 07/22/2014 12:03 PM, Bryce Salmi wrote:
>> Thats actually an impressive total, the percentage for AMSAT Is small but
>> wow! Every bit counts.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Wait, if my math is right that means a total of $13,324 has gone through
>>> Amazon smile in the name of AMSAT!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To date, we have received $66.62 from Amazon Smile
>>>>
>>>> 73- Martha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've also signed up, and have probably bought a few hundred dollars
>>> worth
>>>>> of stuff since then. .5% is not huge, and is probably more helpful to
>>>>> Amazon (via publicity) than to AMSAT, but it can't hurt.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would add that usually I go directly to the Smile page with my link,
>>>> but
>>>>> on the rare occasion when I might follow another link or even type in
>>>>> amazon.com, Amazon reminds me that I am signed up for Smile. Not bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Burns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>> I also signed up and have bought a few things but it is my
>>>> understanding
>>>>>> only 0.5% of the purchase price of eligible products goes to AMSAT.
>>> So
>>>> if
>>>>>> you buy a DVD worth $19.99 and it's eligible for AmazonSmile, roughly
>>>>> $0.10
>>>>>> of that $19.99 will go to AMSAT but I think Amazon waits until
>>>> something
>>>>>> like $100 is collected before sending any money to AMSAT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
>>>>>> Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
>>>>>> http://bryanherbert.com
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. Opinions expressed are
>>> those of the
>>>> author.
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73- Martha
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Gus 8P6SM
> The Easternmost Isle
>
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"Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is
essential to your own.?
- Robert Heinlein, ?Stranger in a Strange Land?
http://afeller.us
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