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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Icom IC-9700 in January 2019 (Alan)
2. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Mark L. Hammond)
3. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Paul Stoetzer)
4. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-24 15:00 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
5. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Ronald G. Parsons)
6. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Ronald G. Parsons)
8. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Jean Marc Momple)
9. Re: Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v downlink
(Ronald G. Parsons)
10. FT-847 for sale (Stefan Wagener)
11. Re: Icom IC-9700 in January 2019 (John Kludt)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 06:54:36 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Dave Webb KB1PVH'" <kb1pvh@?????.???>, <APBIDDLE@???????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT -BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 in January 2019
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That's what I suspected. Been following a general discussion of the subject
on the IC-9100 list. There are some features in the Icom remote software
which would be nice even in the shack.
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
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<From: Dave Webb KB1PVH [mailto:kb1pvh@?????.????
<Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 06:46 AM
<To: APBIDDLE@???????.???
<Cc: peter@??????.???? AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 in January 2019
<
<Alan,
<
< You can't run the Icom remote software and SatPC32 together on the 9100
<because they fight for the same ports.
<
<
<Dave-KB1PVH
<
<
<Sent from my Galaxy S9
<
<On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 7:40 AM Alan <wa4sca@?????.???
<<mailto:wa4sca@?????.???> wrote:
<
<
< I have been wondering how well Icom's remote software will play
<with typical satellite tracking-tuning software?. I have asked some IC-9100
<folks, but have not found someone using both. Perhaps someone here will
<have experience.
<
< 73,
<
< Alan
< WA4SCA
<
<
< <-----Original Message-----
< <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???
<<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> ] On Behalf Of Peter
< <Goodhall (2M0SQL)
< <Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 06:46 AM
< <To: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???
<<mailto:ve3hls@?????.???> >
< <Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???> >
< <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 in January 2019
< <
< <The 9700 has an ethernet port & ICOM has remote software, it
<should be very
< <easy once we know what's actually supported.
< <
< <Certainly shouldn't need expensive third party units.
< <
< <Peter, 2M0SQL
< <
< <On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 05:26 Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???
<<mailto:ve3hls@?????.???> wrote:
< <
< <> Hi Dave,
< <>
< <> Don't hold your breath waiting for me to set up a remote station. A
<lot of
< <> things have to happen first. If the radio is too expensive that'll kill
< <> everything before I get started. I also have to secure a location
<first.
< <> And then there's the problem that I live 12 time zones away from
<where I
< <> want to set up the radio. I'll be lucky to have it going before
<summer
< <> 2019.
< <>
< <> All that said, I will most likely buy a pair of Remoterig boxes to use
<as
< <> the interface to the internet. Their equipment has been around
<for a while
< <> and they seem to know Icom equipment pretty well.
< <>
< <> 73,
< <> Ken
< <> VE3HLS
< <> So Phisai, Thailand
< <> Blog: bueng-ken.com <http://bueng-ken.com>
< <>
< <> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 10:39 David J. Schmocker
<<kj9idave@???????.??? <mailto:kj9idave@???????.???>
< <> wrote:
< <>
< <> > Ken:
< <> > I am also in queue to buy an IC-9700 as my first satellite rig.
<Would
< <> you
< <> > please let me know how the ?remote controlling? plan
<progresses.
< <> > Due to limitations at my QTH, (I need to get above 18 meter tall
<trees to
< <> > see horizon); I need an orbital ring rotor for my satellite work.
< <> > With goals to work DX stations and WAS, portable operation isn?t
<best
< <> > suited to meet my operating goals or maybe I need to relook at
<this and
< <> > build a portable operating trailer.
< <> > Interesting, I have been trying for six months to buy a ring rotator
<for
< <> > my existing 45G tower that I can also mount an elevation rotor on
<the
< <> back
< <> > (unbalanced load) for satellite antennas (already bought and in
<my
< <> > garage).
< <> > Six months of trying (so far) and no rotor is on order because no-
<one can
< <> > meet the requirements. I?ve tried K0XG Systems, AlfaRadio
<(Spid),
< <> > TicRing, and ProSistel.
< <> >
< <> > So remote controlling a station may be the way I have to go also..
< <> Putting
< <> > up another tower has received XYL veto.
< <> >
< <> > 73, CU on the birds soon.
< <> >
< <> > Dave KJ9I
< <> >
< <> > On 12/14/18, 6:59 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Kenneth P
<Alexander"
< <> > <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb-
<bounces@?????.???> on behalf of ve3hls@?????.???
<<mailto:ve3hls@?????.???> > wrote:
< <> >
< <> > >I have my eye on it to use as a remotely controlled station with
<the
< <> radio
< <> > >in FN03. I would operate it from my home here in Thailand. I'm
<not
< <> > >optimistic about the price in Canada. However the IC-7300 is a
< <> reasonable
< <> > >price, so we'll see.
< <> > >
< <> > >I have to learn a lot about remotely controlling a rig first.
< <> > >
< <> > >73,
< <> > >
< <> > >Ken
< <> > >VE3HLS
< <> > >So Phisai, Thailand
< <> > >Blog: bueng-ken.com <http://bueng-ken.com>
< <> > >
< <> > >On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 06:14 John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???
<<mailto:johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
< <> > >
< <> > >> The Icom IC-9700 will be released in January 2019 in Japan for
<188,000
< <> > >> yen ($1,657 USD).
< <> > >>
< <> > >> "Delivery times may vary, depending on the country or
<region." "The
< <> > >> IC-9700 is the perfect side-by-side companion to the IC-7300
<HF radio.
< <> > >> They are the same size and have almost identical ergonomics.
<Using the
< <> > >> IC-9700 and IC-7300 creates an ideal, compact radio station
<covering
< <> > >> the HF, 144, 430 and 1200 MHz bands."
< <> > >>
< <> > >> https://qrznow.com/ic-9700-new-release/
< <> > >>
< <> > >> Who is getting one? :-)
< <> > >>
< <> > >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
< <> > >> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 08:02:44 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>,amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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FWIW, I was on the pass with Ron. I'll confirm his observations, although I
can't explain them ;) On some of the uplinks (but not all!) it sounded like
the 70cm "radar" noise, sort of. Jeff KB2M even commented the same.
Anyhow, we'll have more opportunities with future L/v sessions on AO-92 and
can see if it happens again...
Mark N8MH
At 11:18 PM 12/23/2018 -0600, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>Hi Ron, The downlink is the same radio as the U/v, so from that perspective
there is no particular reason that the L/v transmit signal would be
different. The L/v uplink passes through a downconverter with an output of
the same U frequency as the U/v uplink, directly into the receiver. If there
was any distortion to the L/v signal it would likely occur in the
downconverter path, but I haven't heard any other reports of problems. The
first thing that comes to mind for rapid fading is satellite spin, I do not
have any telemetry in front of me but if you check that out on FoxTelem or
the website to see if it is spinning faster than last week, that might be a
contributor. Noise then, if the satellite downconverter is working
correctly, is probably on the uplink signals and may be greater than normal
with the rapid fading. Jerry Buxton, N??JY On 12/23/2018 19:46, Ronald G.
Parsons wrote: > Last night AO-92 L/v downlink seemed at times unusually
noisy and distorted with rapid fading. Othe
r I talked to on other sats and one ham in ZL land also mentioned it. I
have not noticed this on AO-92 U/v, at least to this extent. My imagination
or fact? > > Ron W5RKN > _______________________________________________ >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 08:24:08 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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I was not on this particular pass, but I have heard these noises before and
do believe it to be L band radar interference.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 08:03 Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@?????.???>
wrote:
> FWIW, I was on the pass with Ron. I'll confirm his observations, although
> I can't explain them ;) On some of the uplinks (but not all!) it sounded
> like the 70cm "radar" noise, sort of. Jeff KB2M even commented the same.
>
> Anyhow, we'll have more opportunities with future L/v sessions on AO-92
> and can see if it happens again...
>
> Mark N8MH
>
> At 11:18 PM 12/23/2018 -0600, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> >Hi Ron, The downlink is the same radio as the U/v, so from that
> perspective there is no particular reason that the L/v transmit signal
> would be different. The L/v uplink passes through a downconverter with an
> output of the same U frequency as the U/v uplink, directly into the
> receiver. If there was any distortion to the L/v signal it would likely
> occur in the downconverter path, but I haven't heard any other reports of
> problems. The first thing that comes to mind for rapid fading is satellite
> spin, I do not have any telemetry in front of me but if you check that out
> on FoxTelem or the website to see if it is spinning faster than last week,
> that might be a contributor. Noise then, if the satellite downconverter is
> working correctly, is probably on the uplink signals and may be greater
> than normal with the rapid fading. Jerry Buxton, N??JY On 12/23/2018 19:46,
> Ronald G. Parsons wrote: > Last night AO-92 L/v downlink seemed at times
> unusually noisy and distorted with rapid fading. Other I talked to on other
> sats and one ham in ZL land also mentioned it. I have not noticed this on
> AO-92 U/v, at least to this extent. My imagination or fact? > > Ron W5RKN >
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: <aj9n@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-24
15:00 UTC
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-12-24 15:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
?
Next contact is expected to be scheduled sometime during the week of
2019-01-07. (***)
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?
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
The ARISS-US program?s education proposal window open Oct. 1 - Nov. 30, 2018
has now closed.? The next window should go open in the spring of 2019.
The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/??
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
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Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
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to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
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ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
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Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
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listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
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For the application, click here.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD
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Amateur Radio League (JARL)
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Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site.
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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:?
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135
Francesco IK?WGF with 132
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Sergey RV3DR with 108
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Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own
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The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-12-24 15:00 UTC.? (***)
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questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.??
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http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
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ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS
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Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 08:55:19 -0600
From: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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To my ear, the L/v downlink just ?sounds? more distorted and noisier than
the U/v downlink. Perhaps something is coming in the L port or is internally
generated. The downlink path in my radio is identical in L/v and U/v. The
rapid fading last weekend was very noticeable at lower elevations and was
close to a 30 sec period. At higher elevations, it was not noticeable. I?ll
try to remember to screen capture the downlink waterfall next weekend.
Ron W5RKN
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:11:01 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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I think part of it might be people off frequency a bit and generally weaker
into the satellite.
Strong signals from well-equipped automatically Doppler corrected stations
generally sound just fine, though there is sometimes radar noise that gets
through.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 09:57 Ronald G. Parsons <w5rkn@?????.???> wrote:
> To my ear, the L/v downlink just ?sounds? more distorted and noisier than
> the U/v downlink. Perhaps something is coming in the L port or is
> internally generated. The downlink path in my radio is identical in L/v and
> U/v. The rapid fading last weekend was very noticeable at lower elevations
> and was close to a 30 sec period. At higher elevations, it was not
> noticeable. I?ll try to remember to screen capture the downlink waterfall
> next weekend.
> Ron W5RKN
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 09:20:01 -0600
From: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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Paul,
Those are good thoughts. The ?radar? noise is distinct and was not my concern.
Ron W5RKN
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 19:28:14 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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Ron,
There was an exchange about this issue about same earlier this year.
My observation (from memory) and comments where as follows:
1) That the fading is on the L uplink, easy to tests: You just monitor the
S/N with Foxtelem while listening to yourself on the downlink and you will
notice that the fading occurs on your voice only.
2) The L-band is much more affected by the surrounding such as trees,
building etc. than UHF or VHF.
3) Having too much power also does not help as if near a water plan or iron
sheet roof nearby may create multi-path fading to the bird in spite of the
distance. Keep the power low as in any case not much required (depending on
the antenna gain).
Hope this help.
I wish all on the BB a Merry-Xmas and the best for 2019 (seems a promising
one with the number of birds being sent up-there & Es?Hail 2, Hi!).
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On Dec 24, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Ronald G. Parsons <w5rkn@?????.???> wrote:
>
> To my ear, the L/v downlink just ?sounds? more distorted and noisier than
the U/v downlink. Perhaps something is coming in the L port or is internally
generated. The downlink path in my radio is identical in L/v and U/v. The
rapid fading last weekend was very noticeable at lower elevations and was
close to a 30 sec period. At higher elevations, it was not noticeable. I?ll
try to remember to screen capture the downlink waterfall next weekend.
> Ron W5RKN
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:37:00 -0600
From: "Ronald G. Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Noise, distortion and fading on AO-92 L/v
downlink
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Although not from L/v, here is a link to a screen shot of the AO-92 U/v
downlink fading.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DamiFLH6pi4IJxk3zU2gMz5za0oFCGxg/view?usp=sha
ring
The time scale of the downlink waterfall is on the right in minutes. At TCA,
around 5 min, the fades fill in but toward the end of the pass, 0 to 3 min,
the fades are rapid, about three per min.
This does not happen with all sats, so I don?t think it is a local effect at
my station. Spinning of the sat?
Ron W5RKN
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:08:52 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 for sale
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Please see the ad on QRZ.com.
73 and Merry Christmas, Stefan VE4NSA
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:29:44 -0500
From: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
To: "Alan (AMSAT)" <APBIDDLE@???????.???>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 in January 2019
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Alan,
This is not a direct analogy but I had issues with port sharing on the
IC-7300 when running N1MM and WSJT-X. I will spare you all of the steps
along the way but I found the easiest solution was to run N1MM through the
USB port and WSJT-X via CT-17 using the "Remote" connection on the
IC-7300. May not help in your setting but works well for me. For rotator
control is use PSTRotator in client/server mode and that is really great.
John
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:40 AM Alan <wa4sca@?????.???> wrote:
> I have been wondering how well Icom's remote software will play with
> typical satellite tracking-tuning software?. I have asked some IC-9100
> folks, but have not found someone using both. Perhaps someone here will
> have experience.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Peter
> <Goodhall (2M0SQL)
> <Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 06:46 AM
> <To: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???>
> <Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 in January 2019
> <
> <The 9700 has an ethernet port & ICOM has remote software, it should be
> very
> <easy once we know what's actually supported.
> <
> <Certainly shouldn't need expensive third party units.
> <
> <Peter, 2M0SQL
> <
> <On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 05:26 Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.??? wrote:
> <
> <> Hi Dave,
> <>
> <> Don't hold your breath waiting for me to set up a remote station. A
> lot of
> <> things have to happen first. If the radio is too expensive that'll kill
> <> everything before I get started. I also have to secure a location
> first.
> <> And then there's the problem that I live 12 time zones away from where I
> <> want to set up the radio. I'll be lucky to have it going before summer
> <> 2019.
> <>
> <> All that said, I will most likely buy a pair of Remoterig boxes to use
> as
> <> the interface to the internet. Their equipment has been around for a
> while
> <> and they seem to know Icom equipment pretty well.
> <>
> <> 73,
> <> Ken
> <> VE3HLS
> <> So Phisai, Thailand
> <> Blog: bueng-ken.com
> <>
> <> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 10:39 David J. Schmocker <kj9idave@???????.???
> <> wrote:
> <>
> <> > Ken:
> <> > I am also in queue to buy an IC-9700 as my first satellite rig. Would
> <> you
> <> > please let me know how the ?remote controlling? plan progresses.
> <> > Due to limitations at my QTH, (I need to get above 18 meter tall
> trees to
> <> > see horizon); I need an orbital ring rotor for my satellite work.
> <> > With goals to work DX stations and WAS, portable operation isn?t best
> <> > suited to meet my operating goals or maybe I need to relook at this
> and
> <> > build a portable operating trailer.
> <> > Interesting, I have been trying for six months to buy a ring rotator
> for
> <> > my existing 45G tower that I can also mount an elevation rotor on the
> <> back
> <> > (unbalanced load) for satellite antennas (already bought and in my
> <> > garage).
> <> > Six months of trying (so far) and no rotor is on order because no-one
> can
> <> > meet the requirements. I?ve tried K0XG Systems, AlfaRadio (Spid),
> <> > TicRing, and ProSistel.
> <> >
> <> > So remote controlling a station may be the way I have to go also..
> <> Putting
> <> > up another tower has received XYL veto.
> <> >
> <> > 73, CU on the birds soon.
> <> >
> <> > Dave KJ9I
> <> >
> <> > On 12/14/18, 6:59 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Kenneth P Alexander"
> <> > <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of ve3hls@?????.???> wrote:
> <> >
> <> > >I have my eye on it to use as a remotely controlled station with the
> <> radio
> <> > >in FN03. I would operate it from my home here in Thailand. I'm not
> <> > >optimistic about the price in Canada. However the IC-7300 is a
> <> reasonable
> <> > >price, so we'll see.
> <> > >
> <> > >I have to learn a lot about remotely controlling a rig first.
> <> > >
> <> > >73,
> <> > >
> <> > >Ken
> <> > >VE3HLS
> <> > >So Phisai, Thailand
> <> > >Blog: bueng-ken.com
> <> > >
> <> > >On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 06:14 John Brier <johnbrier@?????.??? wrote:
> <> > >
> <> > >> The Icom IC-9700 will be released in January 2019 in Japan for
> 188,000
> <> > >> yen ($1,657 USD).
> <> > >>
> <> > >> "Delivery times may vary, depending on the country or region." "The
> <> > >> IC-9700 is the perfect side-by-side companion to the IC-7300 HF
> radio.
> <> > >> They are the same size and have almost identical ergonomics. Using
> the
> <> > >> IC-9700 and IC-7300 creates an ideal, compact radio station
> covering
> <> > >> the HF, 144, 430 and 1200 MHz bands."
> <> > >>
> <> > >> https://qrznow.com/ic-9700-new-release/
> <> > >>
> <> > >> Who is getting one? :-)
> <> > >>
> <> > >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
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