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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Hawaii (D. Craig Fox)
   2. Re: Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100 (D. Craig Fox)
   3. Re: Arrow modification (Douglas B Tabor)
   4. Re: Arrow modification (Ted Krempa)
   5. Re: AO-85 & Wouxun KG-UV9D - more testing (long)
      (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197)
   6. Re: Arrow modification (k6vug@?????????.????
   7. Re: Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100
      (k6vug@?????????.????
   8. Re: Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100 (James McIrvin)
   9. Re: Arrow modification (k6vug@?????????.????


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:00:28 +0000
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@??????.???>
To: 'Gabriel Zeifman' <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>, AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hawaii
Message-ID: <bba25b82d2904e1197759d32a39d442b@??????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks Gabe for activating KH6. It was great working you on FO29!

73s

Craig
N6RSX

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Gabriel Zeifman
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 8:48 AM
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hawaii

Happy New Year to all the Bird Folk of North America,

Today is my final day in Hawaii. I am planning to be on AO-7 at 2253Z from
BL11 and will find a perfect horizon, this pass has footprint about as far
east as you?ll ever see to Hawaii. At 0215Z I will work FO-29 from BL01,
this pass is a little further west but since it?s coming from the NE I
should also be able to find a perfect horizon for it which should allow QSOs
as far east as Ohio and maybe even parts of Pennsylvania. Might do a few
random passes throughout the day or passes by request, Twitter is best for
that AL6D_Alaska. Can do passes as late as 0600Z likely.

73,
Gabe
AL6D/KH6
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:04:40 +0000
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@??????.???>
To: 'Erich Eichmann' <erich.eichmann@????????.??>, James McIrvin
<arsn1ipa@?????.??>, "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100
Message-ID: <75b8a677b2de4849a1351f125d0f2952@??????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Im with the others. I run SATPC on a TS2K and TS2Kx on different PCs at
separate locations.. Using FTDI chipped serial adaptors and set up more or
less as described by Erich, it has been flawless from day one using slow and
fast PCs, XP and W7 pro.

Let us know your progress. Almost always there is an "ah ha" moment.

73s

Craig
N6RSX



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Erich Eichmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:02 AM
To: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.??>; AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100

Happy New Year to all of you.

James,
try the following settings in menu 'Radio Setup': CAT baud rate 57600, CAT
delay 30.
Options 'Satellite Mode' and 'RTS +12V' checkedd, all other options unchecked.
Men? 'CAT': Interval SSB: 50, FM: 100, Speed 1x.
Beginning with SatPC32 V. 12.8c it is necessary to check option 'RTS
+12V',? see FAQs, sect. 5q. The TS-2000 requires hardware handshaking.
Setting the RTS pin high simulates that (5 V of the USB-to-Serial converters
are sufficient.
The PC can't be too fast for the software because of the fix baudrate.

73s, Erich,? DK1TB

Am 01.01.2019 um 02:24 schrieb James McIrvin:
> I would like to find out which unit has a better tracking for doppler
> and general connectivity over all.
> I have been fighting with this TS 2000 keeping my connection with the
> pc going.
> I am about ready to deep six this thing.
> I have gone to a true IO card for the serial connection,  Not a USB
> converter, changed the speeds to match in the settings in both radio
> and pc.  tried different ports and things like that and at times it
> will track fair and then other times it does not do anything.
> I have restarted the pc and the radios, shut them both off and then
> restarted and still, I am having issues.
> I would like to have a rig that is going to work with Satpc32 in a
> reasonable fashion.
> Just keeping this thing working is taking the fun out of trying to get
> on with the birds and ready to change if it is going to work better.
> However, I am looking at general input from those that have used these
> rigs and if they have had good luck with them or if I am asking for
> something out in left field.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:39:27 -0700
From: Douglas B Tabor <dtabor52@??????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow modification
Message-ID: <16935853-8AAE-43B4-B3C8-F43AC7A0DF5F@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Many thanks to all for the information and observations.
Much appreciated and will give me something to chew on for a bit.

This is a great community that we have at AMSAT-BB.

73 and HNY,

Doug, N6UA


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:05:44 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'John Geiger'" <af5cc2@?????.???>,	"'Douglas Quagliana'"
<dquagliana@?????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT -BB' <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>, 'Douglas B Tabor'
<dtabor52@??????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow modification
Message-ID: <007501d4a2de$ed8cbcd0$c8a63670$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

...and then there is the poor old Elk Log-periodic with 1 feed line, no
duplexer on the antenna and a whole lot of gain !!

73, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 6:43 PM
To: Douglas Quagliana
Cc: Douglas B Tabor; AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow modification

Cushcraft, MFJ, Hy-Gain, and Jetstream all make dualband yagis with both
bands having the same polarization.  Cushcraft is a little unique in that
the elements for one band are on the top of the boom, and the elements for
the other band are on the bottom side of the boom.  Both bands have driven
elements that are coax fed and there is a coax harness with a T connector
and short runs of RG-58 which does to the feedpoint for each driven element.

The other brands use elements that go through the boom, and they are
interspaced with each other on the boom.  I know Jetstream only has the
coax attached to the 2 meter driven element, and I think it couples to the
70cm driven element through their harmonic relationship.  I think Hy-Gain
and MFJ do the same thing, but I am not positive on those, as I haven't
looked at their manuals recently.

I have the Cushcraft A270-10s which has 5 elements on each band on a 6 foot
boom.  I have the 2 meter elements on the bottom side of the boom, and the
70cm elements on the top of the boom.  The band which is on the bottom of
the boom seems to have a pretty normal pattern.  The band which is on the
top of the boom seems to have its pattern skewed where the main elevation
lobes are at a pretty high angle.  On Mode J satellites I don't hear the
satellite very well unless it is a rather high pass, and I don't hear it
well during the beginning or end of the pass.  SO50 is rather hard to hear
at all, AO51, AO27, and FO29 are/were easier to hear, but it still shows
the same type of pattern, you don't hear much until you get above 25 to 30
degrees of elevation.  The Mode B satellites exhibit a much more normal
pattern-I can hear the XW2 and CAS-4 satellites throughout most of the
pass, and AO91 and AO92 through most of the pass also, with some fading
here and there when the satellite changes polarization.

I have also owned the Jetstream dualband yagi in the past and it had pretty
impressive performance for an antenna with a 2 1/2 foot boom.  Its
elevation pattern seemed to be more normal than what I get with the
Cushcraft on 70cm.  The biggest problem with the Jetstream right now is
finding one.  R and L electronics is out of them, Jetstream is out of them,
RW antennas on ebay is out of them also.  I bought a used one on ebay and
when it arrived it was the Jetstream dualband vertical instead.  They
luckily refunded my money, but they didn't have the used yagi to send me
instead.  They seem pretty scarce right now, but they did perform pretty
well on the satellites.

I have not used the MFJ or Hy-Gain yagis so I cannot comment on them.  The
MFJ yagi with the 4 elements on 2 meters and 7 elements on 70cm uses a
circuit board for the feedpoint.  That looked a little too fragile to me
for the long term. MFJ has a newer yagi with 3 elements on 2m and 5
elements on 70cm with a different feedpoint arrangement.  I think it is
pretty much a direct copy of the Hy-Gain dualband yagi, since both
companies are owned by MFJ.  I cannot comment on the radiation patterns of
these antennas, but they could be similar to the Jetstream since the
elements go through the boom like they do on the Jetstream.

If we had many more satellites running Mode J I would replace the Cushcraft
with one of these others.  Right now with only 2 satellites using Mode J,
and FO29 still pretty workable, I haven't bothered as I am also into 2
meter SSB and the Cushcraft is twice as long as the others in terms of boom
length so it is probably a better performer on that band.  It also seems a
little more rugged than the others.  The Jetstream is limited to 100 watts
and I blew out one of the driven element arrangements on 2m running 80-90
watts through it.  It was under warranty so Jetstream sent me a new driven
element, but I still had to go up on the roof and replace it, something
that might be hard to do depending on one's setup.

For a portable hand held yagi I think the Jetstream would work very
nicely.  It is light, doesn't need a duplexer, will handle 50 watts from a
FT100/FT857/FT991/FT897/Icom 706MKIIG type of radio, and the elements are
attached with wingnuts which can be broken down very easily for transport.

73 John AF5CC

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:53 PM Douglas Quagliana <dquagliana@?????.???>
wrote:

> I'm not sure if anyone has modified an Arrow to put the elements in the
> same plane.
>
> However, Kent's "cheap LEO" yagi puts the 2m and 70cm elements all in the
> same plane, so it can be done (if you know what you are doing.) See
>
> http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf
>
> 73,
> Douglas KA2UPW/5
>
> > On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:37 PM, Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > Simply moving them into the same plane will likely cause problems because
> > the bands are harmonically related.  The 2m elements will make a mess of
> > the 70cm radiation pattern if they're in the same plane.  That said, I
> did
> > just stumble across a satellite yagi design where the elements were
> > intentionally in the same plane.  Only the 2m yagi is fed and a passive
> 70
> > cm driven element is placed close to the 2m driven element so the 2m
> > element excites the 70 cm passive element, causing it to radiate on 70
> cm.
> > I believe it's called an open sleeve design.  I think it was 3 elements
> on
> > 2m and 3 or 4 elements on 70 cm.  Sorry I didn't bookmark the page.  I
> > don't remember where I saw it.  Hopefully someone else saw it and
> remembers.
> >
> > Happy New Year,
> >
> > Ken
> > bueng-ken.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:20 AM Douglas B Tabor via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> I?ve been using my well faded Arrow for 4 years. The boom is a much
> >> appreciated LIDstick so the old man can swing it as well as a 3 year
> old.
> >>
> >> Has anyone modified the Arrow to have 2m and 70cm elements in the same
> >> plane (instead of stock 90 degrees)? I?m just curious what the
> performance
> >> result might be - I know it would be easier to get in and out of the
> >> RoverMobile instead of doing the twist-and-angle it out.
> >>
> >> HNY and 73,
> >>
> >> Doug, N6UA
> >>
> >> Douglas Tabor
> >> dtabor52@??????.???
> >>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:18:34 -0800
From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197" <dougfaunt@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & Wouxun KG-UV9D - more testing (long)
Message-ID:
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Hi,
How do you feel about the Wouxon KG-UV9D Plus these days?
73, doug


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 23:20:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Cc: Douglas B Tabor <dtabor52@??????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow modification
Message-ID: <1323238103.2146367.1546471231085@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

When the VHF and UHF are collinear and in the same electric plane, with the
UHF array in front of the VHF array, the interference is hardly noticeable
as long as the lower frequency is NOT transmitting.? So, it works very well
for sats that have UHF uplink and VHF downlink. However, experience has
shown that a VHF uplink severely affects the UHF downlink.

Having them at 90 degrees to each other on the same boom is a real-world
compromise - see beginner's article in AMSAT journals.?
Keeping them at least 1/2 wavelength side by side apart (like a H or U)
works quite well for both V/U and U/V modes.

Having tried several arrangements, I have settled on the side by side
arrangement with shorter arrays - it minimizes interference, helps reduce
overall weight, while providing sufficient gain. Also dismantles quickly for
easy carry.?


73!Umesh, k6vug







    On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 12:50:14 PM PST, Douglas B Tabor via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 Many thanks to all for the information and observations.
Much appreciated and will give me something to chew on for a bit.

This is a great community that we have at AMSAT-BB.

73 and HNY,

Doug, N6UA
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 23:57:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: 'Erich Eichmann' <erich.eichmann@????????.??>, 	James McIrvin
<arsn1ipa@?????.??>, 	"AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>, 	"D.
Craig Fox" <DFox@??????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100
Message-ID: <845165603.7313318.1546473435723@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


The entire chain between the PC and the radio works quite well up to 9600
baud, in my experience.? There are several factors affecting it at higher
speeds.

But if the issue is mainly about "doppler tracking", there may be another
factor to be considered - some radios can't change frequency while
transmitting AND for some radios SatPC32 stops providing doppler corrections
while transmitting.? Either case can be a bit bewildering, esp., with SSB
sats.? If this is what you are experiencing, it would feel like tracking a
high speed runner through a 100x zoom lens.?

I guess to escape these issues and for other benefits, I see some have
switched to sophisticated SDR setups and are enjoying it.? It is very
impressive to hear their perfect doppler corrected rag-chew throughout the
entire pass, using SatPC32 on my RX.

So, if your receive doppler works well but transmit doppler does not, then
you'd know where to look.?


73!Umesh, k6vug




   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 12:14:24 PM PST, D. Craig Fox
<DFox@??????.???> wrote:

 Im with the others. I run SATPC on a TS2K and TS2Kx on different PCs at
separate locations.. Using FTDI chipped serial adaptors and set up more or
less as described by Erich, it has been flawless from day one using slow and
fast PCs, XP and W7 pro.

Let us know your progress. Almost always there is an "ah ha" moment.

73s

Craig
N6RSX



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Erich Eichmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:02 AM
To: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.??>; AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100

Happy New Year to all of you.

James,
try the following settings in menu 'Radio Setup': CAT baud rate 57600, CAT
delay 30.
Options 'Satellite Mode' and 'RTS +12V' checkedd, all other options unchecked.
Men? 'CAT': Interval SSB: 50, FM: 100, Speed 1x.
Beginning with SatPC32 V. 12.8c it is necessary to check option 'RTS
+12V',? see FAQs, sect. 5q. The TS-2000 requires hardware handshaking.
Setting the RTS pin high simulates that (5 V of the USB-to-Serial converters
are sufficient.
The PC can't be too fast for the software because of the fix baudrate.

73s, Erich,? DK1TB

Am 01.01.2019 um 02:24 schrieb James McIrvin:
> I would like to find out which unit has a better tracking for doppler
> and general connectivity over all.
> I have been fighting with this TS 2000 keeping my connection with the
> pc going.
> I am about ready to deep six this thing.
> I have gone to a true IO card for the serial connection,? Not a USB
> converter, changed the speeds to match in the settings in both radio
> and pc.? tried different ports and things like that and at times it
> will track fair and then other times it does not do anything.
> I have restarted the pc and the radios, shut them both off and then
> restarted and still, I am having issues.
> I would like to have a rig that is going to work with Satpc32 in a
> reasonable fashion.
> Just keeping this thing working is taking the fun out of trying to get
> on with the birds and ready to change if it is going to work better.
> However, I am looking at general input from those that have used these
> rigs and if they have had good luck with them or if I am asking for
> something out in left field.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 18:59:09 -0500
From: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???>
To: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@??????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>,	James McIrvin
<arsn1ipa@?????.??>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Well, I have found a couple of things that I didn't know were there for
setting.  Still learning how to set things up in satpc32 at this point.
Had to do with the comm port setting.
Took a while to figure it out, however lets see what happens now.

This has been a new thing for me to work with and just the way that some
was done I have had to figure it with some guidance.  Erich gave me enough
to dig deeper to find out what was going on, so know lets see how it works
after a couple of hours and then days.
So far it seems to be working to some extent.

73 de Jim N1IPA

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On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:15 PM D. Craig Fox <DFox@??????.???> wrote:

> Im with the others. I run SATPC on a TS2K and TS2Kx on different PCs at
> separate locations.. Using FTDI chipped serial adaptors and set up more or
> less as described by Erich, it has been flawless from day one using slow
> and fast PCs, XP and W7 pro.
>
> Let us know your progress. Almost always there is an "ah ha" moment.
>
> 73s
>
> Craig
> N6RSX
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Erich Eichmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:02 AM
> To: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.??>; AMSAT-BB@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 control versus Icom IC9100
>
> Happy New Year to all of you.
>
> James,
> try the following settings in menu 'Radio Setup': CAT baud rate 57600, CAT
> delay 30.
> Options 'Satellite Mode' and 'RTS +12V' checkedd, all other options
> unchecked.
> Men? 'CAT': Interval SSB: 50, FM: 100, Speed 1x.
> Beginning with SatPC32 V. 12.8c it is necessary to check option 'RTS
> +12V',  see FAQs, sect. 5q. The TS-2000 requires hardware handshaking.
> Setting the RTS pin high simulates that (5 V of the USB-to-Serial
> converters are sufficient.
> The PC can't be too fast for the software because of the fix baudrate.
>
> 73s, Erich,  DK1TB
>
> Am 01.01.2019 um 02:24 schrieb James McIrvin:
> > I would like to find out which unit has a better tracking for doppler
> > and general connectivity over all.
> > I have been fighting with this TS 2000 keeping my connection with the
> > pc going.
> > I am about ready to deep six this thing.
> > I have gone to a true IO card for the serial connection,  Not a USB
> > converter, changed the speeds to match in the settings in both radio
> > and pc.  tried different ports and things like that and at times it
> > will track fair and then other times it does not do anything.
> > I have restarted the pc and the radios, shut them both off and then
> > restarted and still, I am having issues.
> > I would like to have a rig that is going to work with Satpc32 in a
> > reasonable fashion.
> > Just keeping this thing working is taking the fun out of trying to get
> > on with the birds and ready to change if it is going to work better.
> > However, I am looking at general input from those that have used these
> > rigs and if they have had good luck with them or if I am asking for
> > something out in left field.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 00:09:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow modification
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 The WA5VJB models are great for UHF up and VHF down (assuming duplex ops),
but get severe RX overload for VHF up and UHF down.

73!
Umesh, k6vug




    On Tuesday, January 1, 2019, 5:53:01 PM PST, Douglas Quagliana
<dquagliana@?????.???> wrote:

 I'm not sure if anyone has modified an Arrow to put the elements in the
same plane.

However, Kent's "cheap LEO" yagi puts the 2m and 70cm elements all in the
same plane, so it can be done (if you know what you are doing.) See

http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf

73,
Douglas KA2UPW/5

> On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:37 PM, Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Simply moving them into the same plane will likely cause problems because
> the bands are harmonically related.? The 2m elements will make a mess of
> the 70cm radiation pattern if they're in the same plane.? That said, I did
> just stumble across a satellite yagi design where the elements were
> intentionally in the same plane.? Only the 2m yagi is fed and a passive 70
> cm driven element is placed close to the 2m driven element so the 2m
> element excites the 70 cm passive element, causing it to radiate on 70 cm.
> I believe it's called an open sleeve design.? I think it was 3 elements on
> 2m and 3 or 4 elements on 70 cm.? Sorry I didn't bookmark the page.? I
> don't remember where I saw it.? Hopefully someone else saw it and remembers.
>
> Happy New Year,
>
> Ken
> bueng-ken.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:20 AM Douglas B Tabor via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I?ve been using my well faded Arrow for 4 years. The boom is a much
>> appreciated LIDstick so the old man can swing it as well as a 3 year old.
>>
>> Has anyone modified the Arrow to have 2m and 70cm elements in the same
>> plane (instead of stock 90 degrees)? I?m just curious what the performance
>> result might be - I know it would be easier to get in and out of the
>> RoverMobile instead of doing the twist-and-angle it out.
>>
>> HNY and 73,
>>
>> Doug, N6UA
>>
>> Douglas Tabor
>> dtabor52@??????.???
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