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Today's Topics:

   1. Office Closed (Martha)
   2. Re: NEXUS identified (Greg D)
   3. Re: NEXUS identified (Nico Janssen)
   4. OrigamiSat 1 identified (Nico Janssen)
   5. EM14 (af5cc2)
   6. OrigamiSat-1 (Mineo Wakita)
   7. Re: NEXUS identified (Nico Janssen)
   8. Yaesu rotor parts needed (mikflathead@???.????
   9. Re: Yaesu rotor parts needed (Kevin)
  10. Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band (Nico Janssen)
  11. Re: Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band (Zach Metzinger)
  12. Re: Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band (Arthur Feller, W4ART)
  13. Re: Yaesu rotor parts needed (GEO Badger)
  14. Re: Yaesu rotor parts needed (GEO Badger)
  15. Re: Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band (Zach Metzinger)
  16. Re: Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band (Arthur Feller, W4ART)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:18:37 -0500
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Board of Directors <bod@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID:
<CAPk0USwkEwSAGBSWCz4iQtg=FvvtC0GQos3FeWnbYmkfXbT7pg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, January 21 in observance of
Martin Luther King Jr Day.

--
73- Martha


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:26:57 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: ja1ogz@????.????.??.??
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NEXUS identified
Message-ID: <966c7e84-2c3a-0257-dc5c-185127329537@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Very clean, strong signal here in CM98 just now on an overhead pass.  I
didn't have a chance to configure the automation, so tuning 70cm Doppler
by hand while trying to copy CW with FLDIGI.  Not much decoded, but I
did see "NEXUS" among the gibberish.

Congrats!

Greg  KO6TH


Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> Doppler measurements show that NEXUS is object 43938, 2019-003G.
> Downlink: 437.0732 MHz.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 21:03:37 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Ray Hoad <ray.hoad@????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NEXUS identified
Message-ID: <6eac15e6-b62d-2c4f-ddf1-c702dea0c363@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


With an unexpected new TLE set published, NEXUS now has a slightly
better match with object 43940, 2019-003J. Apparently TLEs have not
yet stabilized.

73, Nico PA0DLO

On 18-01-19 14:07, Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> Doppler measurements show that NEXUS is object 43938, 2019-003G.
> Downlink: 437.0732 MHz.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 21:05:46 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Ray Hoad <ray.hoad@????????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OrigamiSat 1 identified
Message-ID: <ee47b92d-2d6c-b0f9-2db2-5c325e5146cc@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


Doppler measurements show that OrigamiSat 1 is
object 43933, 2019-003B, (based on currently available
TLE sets). Downlink: 437.499 MHz.

73,
Nico PA0DLO




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:09:12 -0600
From: af5cc2 <af5cc2@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] EM14
Message-ID: <5c43ae1b.1c69fb81.94ca9.388c@??.??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


I am currently in EM14 for the 2230Z XW2D and XW2C passes
73 John AF5CC?

Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Smartphone

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:28:46 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@?????????.??.??>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OrigamiSat-1
Message-ID: <DECA4ADFE98749A3BB2EC979F4D1AA62@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"

Origami is one of Japan's traditional paper-craft arts, the art
of folding paper. It make with a piece of small square paper.

http://youtu.be/ajeUwb4-fhA
http://www.origami.titech.ac.jp/
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/nexussat.htm

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita



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https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:44:05 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Ray Hoad <ray.hoad@????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NEXUS identified

Message-ID: <b767e441-225f-23f3-d25e-e4097e89688d@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


With increased separation it is now clear that NEXUS is object 43937,
2019-003F. Downlink 437.0732 MHz.

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 18-01-19 21:03, Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> With an unexpected new TLE set published, NEXUS now has a slightly
> better match with object 43940, 2019-003J. Apparently TLEs have not
> yet stabilized.
>
> 73, Nico PA0DLO
>
> On 18-01-19 14:07, Nico Janssen wrote:
>>
>> Doppler measurements show that NEXUS is object 43938, 2019-003G.
>> Downlink: 437.0732 MHz.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: <mikflathead@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed
Message-ID: <1271870056.572412.1547989995716@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Would anyone have the bracket and hardware that allows the elevation rotor
to mount to the azimuth rotor. There is an L bracket and some bolts. I could
make one but would like to try this first. Thanks Mike


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 09:33:38 -0800
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed
Message-ID: <c2c6bb8f-e368-2a34-eb9d-c9fcf046c382@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Mike,
 ?? If we are talking a G-5500, it's actually a U shaped bracket with a
slot in the bottom Yaesu #S8001512.
You might try contacting Yaesu and see what they want for one.

Yaesu USA
6125 Phyllis Dr
Cypress, CA 90630
t.factor@?????.???
www.yaesu.com
www.standardhorizon.com

714-827-7600 X 1513
FAX 714-527-9472


73
Kevin



On 1/20/2019 5:13 AM, WB8PFZ via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Would anyone have the bracket and hardware that allows the elevation rotor
to mount to the azimuth rotor. There is an L bracket and some bolts. I could
make one but would like to try this first. Thanks Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:07:58 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@??????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band
Message-ID: <efb96c2a-1c5c-296f-ad39-28965fb6d133@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


A Chinese CZ-4B rocket booster or, more likely, some payload
attached to it, appears to have a telemetry downlink on
432.0836 MHz. It is object 43656, 2018-081B.

73,
Nico PA0DLO




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:35:46 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band
Message-ID: <5ced6996-3b11-18dc-fca9-8ebfdbf378b2@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 01/20/19 12:07, Nico Janssen wrote:
>
> A Chinese CZ-4B rocket booster or, more likely, some payload
> attached to it, appears to have a telemetry downlink on
> 432.0836 MHz. It is object 43656, 2018-081B.


Illegal? Depends on the ITU region it is flying over.

U.S. 47 CFR 97.207(c)(1) defines 435-438 MHz as the allowable transmit
frequencies for space stations. However, the ITU just marks 432-438 as
AMATEUR (primary region 1) or Amateur (secondary regions 2&3). No
distinction is made for amateur-satellite stations.

The ITU does allocate this swath of spectrum to "Earth
exploration-satellite (active)". I haven't dug into that.

Unfriendly and uncoordinated? Definitely.

IANAL

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:51:27 -0500
From: "Arthur Feller, W4ART" <afeller@????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band
Message-ID: <B042F9F6-62BA-44B7-86C3-D2370A9DE8F7@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Remember to check the RR 5.282.

RR 5.282 In the bands 435-438MHz, 1260-1270MHz, 2400-2450MHz, 3400-3410MHz
(in Regions2 and3 only) and 5650-5670MHz, the amateur-satellite service may
operate subject to not causing harmful interference to other services
operating in accordance with the Table (see No. 5.43). Administrations
authorizing such use shall ensure that any harmful interference caused by
emissions from a station in the amateur-satellite service is immediately
eliminated in accordance with the provisions of No. 25.11. The use of the
bands 1 260- 1 270 MHz and 5 650-5 670 MHz by the amateur-satellite service
is limited to the Earth-to-space direction.


The amateur-satellite service is available world-wide in the band 435-438
MHzn on a non-interference basis.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA

> On 20-Jan-2019, at 01:35 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
>
> On 01/20/19 12:07, Nico Janssen wrote:
>> A Chinese CZ-4B rocket booster or, more likely, some payload
>> attached to it, appears to have a telemetry downlink on
>> 432.0836 MHz. It is object 43656, 2018-081B.
>
> Illegal? Depends on the ITU region it is flying over.
>
> U.S. 47 CFR 97.207(c)(1) defines 435-438 MHz as the allowable transmit
frequencies for space stations. However, the ITU just marks 432-438 as
AMATEUR (primary region 1) or Amateur (secondary regions 2&3). No
distinction is made for amateur-satellite stations.
>
> The ITU does allocate this swath of spectrum to "Earth
exploration-satellite (active)". I haven't dug into that.
>
> Unfriendly and uncoordinated? Definitely.
>
> IANAL
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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To thrive in life, you need three bones:  a wish bone, a back bone, and a
funny bone.
					- Reba McEntire

http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>






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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:02:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: GEO Badger <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed
Message-ID: <1345298214.616661.1548010944445@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Is there a PN in the manual? I'm offsite so I have no access to my
manuals.?---?
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ??
 GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
 To: amsat-bb@?????.???
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed

Mike,
 ?? If we are talking a G-5500, it's actually a U shaped bracket with a
slot in the bottom Yaesu #S8001512.
You might try contacting Yaesu and see what they want for one.

Yaesu USA
6125 Phyllis Dr
Cypress, CA 90630
t.factor@?????.???
www.yaesu.com
www.standardhorizon.com

714-827-7600 X 1513
FAX 714-527-9472


73
Kevin



On 1/20/2019 5:13 AM, WB8PFZ via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Would anyone have the bracket and hardware that allows the elevation rotor
to mount to the azimuth rotor. There is an L bracket and some bolts. I could
make one but would like to try this first. Thanks Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:03:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: GEO Badger <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed
Message-ID: <1759674600.636827.1548010993887@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Oops, didn't see the PN.?---?
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ??
 GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
 To: amsat-bb@?????.???
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu rotor parts needed

Mike,
 ?? If we are talking a G-5500, it's actually a U shaped bracket with a
slot in the bottom Yaesu #S8001512.
You might try contacting Yaesu and see what they want for one.

Yaesu USA
6125 Phyllis Dr
Cypress, CA 90630
t.factor@?????.???
www.yaesu.com
www.standardhorizon.com

714-827-7600 X 1513
FAX 714-527-9472


73
Kevin



On 1/20/2019 5:13 AM, WB8PFZ via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Would anyone have the bracket and hardware that allows the elevation rotor
to mount to the azimuth rotor. There is an L bracket and some bolts. I could
make one but would like to try this first. Thanks Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:04:43 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band
Message-ID: <2c5b7814-0117-b821-3de0-60b86827fea7@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 01/20/19 12:51, Arthur Feller, W4ART wrote:
> Remember to check the RR 5.282.
>
> RR 5.282 In the bands *435-438MHz*, 1260-1270MHz, 2400-2450MHz,
> 3400-3410MHz (in Regions2 and3 only) and 5650-5670MHz, *the
> amateur-satellite service may operate subject to not causing harmful
> interference to other services operating in accordance with the Table
> (see No. **5.43**).


Art-

Good point, but does the telemetry on the CZ-4B use an amateur radio
callsign? If not, then perhaps it is part of the China aeronautical
radio-navigation service:

5.279A "The use of the frequency band 432-438 MHz by sensors in the
Earth exploration-satellite service (active) shall be in accordance with
Recommendation ITU-R SA.1260-1. Additionally, the Earth
exploration-satellite service (active) in the frequency band 432-438 MHz
shall not cause harmful interference to the aeronautical radionavigation
service in China."

I'm certainly not defending the use of our spectrum for commercial
telemetry, but both China (region 3) and the USA (region 2) are in the
Amateur secondary allocation on 70cm. We have to expect some
interference on this band.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:23:17 -0500
From: "Arthur Feller, W4ART" <afeller@????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Illegal downlink in the 70 cm band
Message-ID: <955117F7-2157-40B0-A7EE-5B414C370A33@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

If the telemetry qualifies in the amateur-satellite service, all?s well. 
Lots of possibilities exist for making this workable.  Need details to know.

73?..

> On 20-Jan-2019, at 02:04 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???> wrote:
>
> On 01/20/19 12:51, Arthur Feller, W4ART wrote:
>> Remember to check the RR 5.282.
>> RR 5.282 In the bands *435-438MHz*, 1260-1270MHz, 2400-2450MHz,
3400-3410MHz (in Regions2 and3 only) and 5650-5670MHz, *the
amateur-satellite service may operate subject to not causing harmful
interference to other services operating in accordance with the Table (see
No. **5.43**).
>
>
> Art-
>
> Good point, but does the telemetry on the CZ-4B use an amateur radio
callsign? If not, then perhaps it is part of the China aeronautical
radio-navigation service:
>
> 5.279A "The use of the frequency band 432-438 MHz by sensors in the Earth
exploration-satellite service (active) shall be in accordance with
Recommendation ITU-R SA.1260-1. Additionally, the Earth
exploration-satellite service (active) in the frequency band 432-438 MHz
shall not cause harmful interference to the aeronautical radionavigation
service in China."
>
> I'm certainly not defending the use of our spectrum for commercial
telemetry, but both China (region 3) and the USA (region 2) are in the
Amateur secondary allocation on 70cm. We have to expect some interference on
this band.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

To thrive in life, you need three bones:  a wish bone, a back bone, and a
funny bone.
					- Reba McEntire

http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>






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