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Today's Topics:
1. Re: eAntenna (David J. Schmocker)
2. Re: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
3. Re: HRD tracking errors (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
4. Re: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
5. Re: HRD tracking errors (Ted Krempa)
6. EL15,16 Tuesday, 29JAN19 AO-92 (Bob Cutter)
7. Re: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
8. Re: SATPC32 GS-232 Rotor Control Protocol (Erich Eichmann)
9. Re: HRD tracking errors (John Kludt)
10. Re: HRD tracking errors (Stefan Wagener)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:27:14 -0600
From: "David J. Schmocker" <kj9idave@???????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] eAntenna
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Ray:
I own one InnovAntennas LFA and in my experience the design is excellent
compared with traditional yagis I have owned before.
?Excellent' is defined as very low noise due to the drive loop (view the
antenna azimuth pattern and it shows!). For a given boom length, LFAs
are about 0.2dB behind conventional yagis but the lower noise and broad
banded nature of them makes them SWR-stable and high-performance in all
weather conditions. However what I will never agree with is the square
boom idea. Indeed it makes antenna assembly a breeze, but I have
home-brewed my own round booms because I need to be able to manage the
wind load. Probably a UHF antenna (with an extra robust rotor under it)
will be a non-problem.
Good luck. Very 73,
Dave KJ9I
On 1/28/19, 11:43 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Les Rayburn"
<amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of les@????????????.???> wrote:
>Wondering if anyone has experience with the eAntenna LFA DUOSAT antenna?
>My satellite antennas are mounted in the attic of my HOA home. I?m using
>an Arrow Alaska Antenna, mounted at about 10 degree elevation on a TV
>rotor.
>
>http://www.eantenna.es/?p=3325
>
>The LFA design claims to be a low-noise antenna, which is why I?m
>interested. Gain is not the limitation of my system, but rather nearby
>noise sources from my own home and neighbors.
>
>If the LFA could reduce that noise, it might offset the lower gain vs.
>the Alaskan antenna?but I?m not confident. Anyone have direct experience
>with this antenna?
>
>
>73,
>
>Les Rayburn, N1LF
>121 Mayfair Park
>Maylene, AL 35114
>EM63nf
>
>Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>
>Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy
>Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
>Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps,
>Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs
>Active Whip.
>
>?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song??
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:51:22 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio Deluxe's
Satellite Tracking application. We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
these applications... and moving the ball forward.
With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
Mike, WA9PIE
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
> Terry,
> Thanks for the thoughts.
> I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85 still
> a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use different
> "element sets".
> SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I need to
> figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element sets,
> in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different "catalog
> numbers", as noted above.
> Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets slower
> loading.
> There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD, reinstall
> with a "fresh" copy.
>
> Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> WB1FXX
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hi Francis,
> >
> > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
> > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the sats
> > have been finally identified.
> > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get 2
> > entries for a given sat.
> >
> > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for each
> > and
> > it tracks correctly.
> >
> > 73,
> > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francis Geraci
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> >
> > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
> birds
> > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
> noticed
> > this tracking error ?
> > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
> seems
> > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> >
> > Best to All - WB1FXX
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:59:13 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Francis
Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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Mike,
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
Dave-KB1PVH
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio Deluxe's
> Satellite Tracking application. We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
>
> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> > Thanks for the thoughts.
> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
> still
> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use different
> > "element sets".
> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I need
> to
> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
> sets,
> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different "catalog
> > numbers", as noted above.
> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets slower
> > loading.
> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD, reinstall
> > with a "fresh" copy.
> >
> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> > WB1FXX
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Francis,
> > >
> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
> sats
> > > have been finally identified.
> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get 2
> > > entries for a given sat.
> > >
> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for each
> > > and
> > > it tracks correctly.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Francis Geraci
> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> > >
> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
> > birds
> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
> > noticed
> > > this tracking error ?
> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
> > seems
> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> > >
> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:00:01 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Francis
Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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I've got it.
I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
Mike, WA9PIE
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
>> Deluxe's
>> Satellite Tracking application. We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
>> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
>> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
>>
>> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Terry,
>> > Thanks for the thoughts.
>> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
>> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
>> still
>> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
>> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use different
>> > "element sets".
>> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
>> need to
>> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
>> sets,
>> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
>> "catalog
>> > numbers", as noted above.
>> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
>> slower
>> > loading.
>> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD, reinstall
>> > with a "fresh" copy.
>> >
>> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
>> > WB1FXX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
>> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Francis,
>> > >
>> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
>> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
>> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
>> sats
>> > > have been finally identified.
>> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get 2
>> > > entries for a given sat.
>> > >
>> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
>> each
>> > > and
>> > > it tracks correctly.
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Francis Geraci
>> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
>> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
>> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>> > >
>> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
>> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
>> > birds
>> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
>> > noticed
>> > > this tracking error ?
>> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
>> > seems
>> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
>> > >
>> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
>> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > >
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:24:59 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Michael Carper, Ph.D.'" <mike@??????.???>, "'Dave Webb KB1PVH'"
<kb1pvh@?????.???>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
Message-ID: <003301d4b758$4ed58c50$ec80a4f0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Mike, while you are here, is there a way to access the sqf file in HRD?
Thanks, Ted
K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
I've got it.
I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
Mike, WA9PIE
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
>> Deluxe's
>> Satellite Tracking application. We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
>> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
>> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
>>
>> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Terry,
>> > Thanks for the thoughts.
>> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
>> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
>> still
>> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
>> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use different
>> > "element sets".
>> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
>> need to
>> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
>> sets,
>> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
>> "catalog
>> > numbers", as noted above.
>> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
>> slower
>> > loading.
>> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD, reinstall
>> > with a "fresh" copy.
>> >
>> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
>> > WB1FXX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
>> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Francis,
>> > >
>> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
>> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
>> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
>> sats
>> > > have been finally identified.
>> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get
2
>> > > entries for a given sat.
>> > >
>> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
>> each
>> > > and
>> > > it tracks correctly.
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Francis Geraci
>> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
>> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
>> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>> > >
>> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
>> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
>> > birds
>> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
>> > noticed
>> > > this tracking error ?
>> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
>> > seems
>> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
>> > >
>> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
>> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > >
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
_______________________________________________
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expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:43:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Cutter <ki0g@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] EL15,16 Tuesday, 29JAN19 AO-92
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EL15,16, Tuesday, 29JAN19,1608z. AO-92
72, Bob KI0G?
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:00:31 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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We?re fixing the time problem first.
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:24 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
> I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some birds
> 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else noticed
> this tracking error ?
> I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing seems
> to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
>
> Best to All - WB1FXX
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 00:11:51 +0100
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>, AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 GS-232 Rotor Control Protocol
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SatPC32 doesn't output azimuth and elevation via a COM port but via DDE
to little interface programs (such as 'ServerSDX.exe' or
'ServerEcomm1.exe').? These little programs? convert the output to the
protocol? of the particular controller and output it to the controller
via a (selectable) COM port. This way I don't need to specify all
possible protocols in the main program and don't need to update the main
program if a new controller is to be added.
To get azimuth and elevation in the Yaesu format (Waaa eee) choose? item
'Yaesu_GS-232', to get the EasyComm1 format ( 'AZaaa.a ELeee.e')? choose
item 'SAEBRTrackBox' from the list of supported controllers and
interfaces in menu 'Rotor Setup'. Click the upper 'Store' button to save
the changes.
At a program re-start the main program will automatically start
'ServerSDX.exe', 'ServerEComm1' rsp. Click on the symbol in the taskline
to show the program normally and in its 'Setup' window choose COM port
and baudrate. Save the changes and re-start the program once again.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.01.2019 um 22:18 schrieb Robert Bruninga:
> A student is trying to build a rotor control to work with SATPC32 via
> COM1.
>
> He wants it to use the "Waaa eee" (AZ/EL) or the AZaaa ELeee Easycomm
> formats.
>
> When we set SATPC32 to track a satellite, it does not seem to send any
> elevation and only uses the Maaa Azimuth output.
>
> How do we tell SATPC32 to output both AZ and EL in either format?
>
> Bob
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:39:07 -0500
From: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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Mike,
Sorry about that I now have my threads crossed.
John
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On Jan 28, 2019 6:00 PM, "Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> We?re fixing the time problem first.
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:24 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
birds
> > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
noticed
> > this tracking error ?
> > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing seems
> > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> >
> > Best to All - WB1FXX
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:02:22 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
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Hi Francis,
Your assumption is not correct. SatPC32 has the option of selecting other
sources for Keppler files. As stated in the FAQs you need to modify the
Celestrak.SQF and specify another source as long as it starts with http...
Please familiarize yourself with the SatPC32 manual and its FAQs. It will
help in solving any perceived problems.
73, Stefan VE4NSA
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 8:40 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
> Thanks for the tip!
> But, unfortunately, HRD and SatPC32 don't offer that choice. I guess I'll
> have to "load" them manually. I used to do that back with the "DOS" base
> software with the RS series of Sats. Jeeezz... Have I been doing "Sats"
> that Long ?
>
> Best 73, WB1FXX
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:31 AM Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > If possible to set on your tracking pgms,
> >
> > Try http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt
> >
> > All sats Keps updated every 4 hours
> >
> > 73, lu7abf, Pedro
> >
> > On 11/9/18, Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???> wrote:
> > > Terry,
> > > Thanks for the thoughts.
> > > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> > > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
> > still
> > > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> > > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use different
> > > "element sets".
> > > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
> need
> > to
> > > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
> > sets,
> > > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
> "catalog
> > > numbers", as noted above.
> > > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
> slower
> > > loading.
> > > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD, reinstall
> > > with a "fresh" copy.
> > >
> > > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> > > WB1FXX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> > > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Francis,
> > >>
> > >> Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> > >> I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
> > >> What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
> sats
> > >> have been finally identified.
> > >> The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get 2
> > >> entries for a given sat.
> > >>
> > >> I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
> each
> > >> and
> > >> it tracks correctly.
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Francis Geraci
> > >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> > >> To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> > >>
> > >> I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > >> SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows some
> > >> birds
> > >> 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
> > >> noticed
> > >> this tracking error ?
> > >> I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
> > >> seems
> > >> to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> > >>
> > >> Best to All - WB1FXX
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > >> expressed
> > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > >> AMSAT-NA.
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