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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
   2. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
   3. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Michael Carper, Ph.D.)
   4. Sony MP3 recorder for Satellite (Les Rayburn)
   5. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Stefan Wagener)
   6. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Ted Krempa)
   7. Re: FW: HRD tracking errors (Ted Krempa)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:22:41 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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Well, for the sake of demonstrating my ignorance here...

What's an SQF file?

Mike, WA9PIE

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:21 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:

>
> Hi Mike, while you are here, is there a way to access the sqf file in HRD?
>
> Thanks, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
> Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
> To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
> Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>
> I've got it.
>
> I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
> >> Deluxe's
> >> Satellite Tracking application.  We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
> >> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
> >> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
> >>
> >> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
> >>
> >> Mike, WA9PIE
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Terry,
> >> > Thanks for the thoughts.
> >> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> >> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
> >> still
> >> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> >> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use
> different
> >> > "element sets".
> >> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
> >> need to
> >> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
> >> sets,
> >> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
> >> "catalog
> >> > numbers", as noted above.
> >> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
> >> slower
> >> > loading.
> >> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD,
> reinstall
> >> > with a "fresh" copy.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> >> > WB1FXX
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> >> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Francis,
> >> > >
> >> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> >> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
> >> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
> >> sats
> >> > > have been finally identified.
> >> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get
> 2
> >> > > entries for a given sat.
> >> > >
> >> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
> >> each
> >> > > and
> >> > > it tracks correctly.
> >> > >
> >> > > 73,
> >> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Francis Geraci
> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> >> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> >> > >
> >> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> >> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows
> some
> >> > birds
> >> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
> >> > noticed
> >> > > this tracking error ?
> >> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
> >> > seems
> >> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions
> >> > > expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >> of
> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> > program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >> > expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:28:15 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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Wow, well THAT is interesting!

Right now, the options are:
nasabare.txt
amateur.txt
goes.txt
stations.txt
visual.txt
weather.txt

I haven't tried to add any myself... but happy to try that.

Mike, WA9PIE


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:24 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:

>
> In the Sat program, click on 'satellite definitions', then 'Kepler data'
> and you will get a window where you can check where your data source comes
> from, or using the 'Add URL' or 'Add file' tabs, you can configure any
> source or file you like
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
> Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
> To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
> Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>
> I've got it.
>
> I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
> >> Deluxe's
> >> Satellite Tracking application.  We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
> >> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related to
> >> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
> >>
> >> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
> >>
> >> Mike, WA9PIE
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Terry,
> >> > Thanks for the thoughts.
> >> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> >> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
> >> still
> >> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> >> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use
> different
> >> > "element sets".
> >> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
> >> need to
> >> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
> >> sets,
> >> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
> >> "catalog
> >> > numbers", as noted above.
> >> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
> >> slower
> >> > loading.
> >> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD,
> reinstall
> >> > with a "fresh" copy.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> >> > WB1FXX
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> >> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Francis,
> >> > >
> >> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> >> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking programs.
> >> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
> >> sats
> >> > > have been finally identified.
> >> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you get
> 2
> >> > > entries for a given sat.
> >> > >
> >> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
> >> each
> >> > > and
> >> > > it tracks correctly.
> >> > >
> >> > > 73,
> >> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Francis Geraci
> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> >> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> >> > >
> >> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> >> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows
> some
> >> > birds
> >> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
> >> > noticed
> >> > > this tracking error ?
> >> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc. Nothing
> >> > seems
> >> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions
> >> > > expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >> of
> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> > program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >> > expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:31:16 -0600
From: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
To: Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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I just added nasa all and it worked fine.

Mike, WA9PIE

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. <mike@??????.???>
wrote:

> Wow, well THAT is interesting!
>
> Right now, the options are:
> nasabare.txt
> amateur.txt
> goes.txt
> stations.txt
> visual.txt
> weather.txt
>
> I haven't tried to add any myself... but happy to try that.
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:24 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
>>
>> In the Sat program, click on 'satellite definitions', then 'Kepler data'
>> and you will get a window where you can check where your data source comes
>> from, or using the 'Add URL' or 'Add file' tabs, you can configure any
>> source or file you like
>>
>> 73, Ted
>> K7TRK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
>> Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
>> To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
>> Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>>
>> I've got it.
>>
>> I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
>>
>> Mike, WA9PIE
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>> >
>> > Dave-KB1PVH
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
>> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> >> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
>> >> Deluxe's
>> >> Satellite Tracking application.  We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
>> >> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related
>> to
>> >> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
>> >>
>> >> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
>> >>
>> >> Mike, WA9PIE
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Terry,
>> >> > Thanks for the thoughts.
>> >> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
>> >> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK. AO-85
>> >> still
>> >> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
>> >> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use
>> different
>> >> > "element sets".
>> >> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
>> >> need to
>> >> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
>> >> sets,
>> >> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
>> >> "catalog
>> >> > numbers", as noted above.
>> >> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
>> >> slower
>> >> > loading.
>> >> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD,
>> reinstall
>> >> > with a "fresh" copy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
>> >> > WB1FXX
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
>> >> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hi Francis,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
>> >> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking
>> programs.
>> >> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before the
>> >> sats
>> >> > > have been finally identified.
>> >> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you
>> get
>> 2
>> >> > > entries for a given sat.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
>> >> each
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > it tracks correctly.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 73,
>> >> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: Francis Geraci
>> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
>> >> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
>> >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
>> >> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows
>> some
>> >> > birds
>> >> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone else
>> >> > noticed
>> >> > > this tracking error ?
>> >> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc.
>> Nothing
>> >> > seems
>> >> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> > Opinions
>> >> > > expressed
>> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views
>> >> of
>> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> >> > program!
>> >> > > Subscription settings:
>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> Opinions
>> >> > expressed
>> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> >> > AMSAT-NA.
>> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> >> program!
>> >> > Subscription settings:
>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> Opinions expressed
>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> >> AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >>
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:41:45 -0600
From: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sony MP3 recorder for Satellite
Message-ID: <DE561405-A68C-4150-931F-FCF4636811E4@????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Recently someone recommended a Sony audio recorder that would allow
monitoring through the headphone jack while the unit was recording a new
file. I?ve misplaced that message.

Can someone refresh my memory? Thanks so much.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy
Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner
9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song??



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:44:42 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: "Michael Carper, Ph.D." <mike@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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Hi Mike,

Not sure why Ted would be asking for a "SQF" file in HRD. It is a "text"
based file in SatPC32 that stores information related to the operation of
the software and can be edited by the user with a text editor. For example,
frequencies for doppler control = Doppler.sqf

73 Stefan, VE4NSA

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:35 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Well, for the sake of demonstrating my ignorance here...
>
> What's an SQF file?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:21 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Mike, while you are here, is there a way to access the sqf file in
> HRD?
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
> > Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
> > To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
> > Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> >
> > I've got it.
> >
> > I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
> >
> > Mike, WA9PIE
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> > >
> > > Dave-KB1PVH
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > >> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
> > >> Deluxe's
> > >> Satellite Tracking application.  We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
> > >> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related
> to
> > >> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
> > >>
> > >> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
> > >>
> > >> Mike, WA9PIE
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Terry,
> > >> > Thanks for the thoughts.
> > >> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog # of
> > >> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK.
> AO-85
> > >> still
> > >> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> > >> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use
> > different
> > >> > "element sets".
> > >> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
> > >> need to
> > >> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2 element
> > >> sets,
> > >> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
> > >> "catalog
> > >> > numbers", as noted above.
> > >> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
> > >> slower
> > >> > loading.
> > >> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD,
> > reinstall
> > >> > with a "fresh" copy.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> > >> > WB1FXX
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> > >> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Francis,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> > >> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking
> programs.
> > >> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before
> the
> > >> sats
> > >> > > have been finally identified.
> > >> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you
> get
> > 2
> > >> > > entries for a given sat.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry for
> > >> each
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > it tracks correctly.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 73,
> > >> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Francis Geraci
> > >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> > >> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> > >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > >> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows
> > some
> > >> > birds
> > >> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone
> else
> > >> > noticed
> > >> > > this tracking error ?
> > >> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc.
> Nothing
> > >> > seems
> > >> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:09:46 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Stefan Wagener'" <wageners@?????.???>,	"'Michael Carper, Ph.D.'"
<mike@??????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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Stefan, because Ted likes the HRD sat program but it has issues. I thought
it has a sqf file that maybe could be edited. Like SatPC32. If HRD does, I
can't find it and that could lead to a fix.

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Stefan
Wagener
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:45 PM
To: Michael Carper, Ph.D.
Cc: AMSAT BB; Ted Krempa
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors

Hi Mike,

Not sure why Ted would be asking for a "SQF" file in HRD. It is a "text"
based file in SatPC32 that stores information related to the operation of
the software and can be edited by the user with a text editor. For example,
frequencies for doppler control = Doppler.sqf

73 Stefan, VE4NSA

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:35 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Well, for the sake of demonstrating my ignorance here...
>
> What's an SQF file?
>
> Mike, WA9PIE
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:21 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Mike, while you are here, is there a way to access the sqf file in
> HRD?
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> > K7TRK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
> > Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:00 PM
> > To: Dave Webb KB1PVH
> > Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB; Francis Geraci
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> >
> > I've got it.
> >
> > I just recorded an enhancement request to add it.
> >
> > Mike, WA9PIE
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> > >
> > > Dave-KB1PVH
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > >> As many of you know, we've committed resources to revise Ham Radio
> > >> Deluxe's
> > >> Satellite Tracking application.  We've invested in buying rigs, rotor
> > >> hardware, and antennas in an effort to eliminate all problems related
> to
> > >> these applications... and moving the ball forward.
> > >>
> > >> With that in mind... where can I get "nasa all"?
> > >>
> > >> Mike, WA9PIE
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM Francis Geraci <fgeraci14@?????.???>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Terry,
> > >> > Thanks for the thoughts.
> > >> > I "combed" thru the Keps. I did notice that AO-91 had a catalog #
of
> > >> > 43015, not 43017. I corrected that. Still, no Joy. AO-92 is OK.
> AO-85
> > >> still
> > >> > a problem, and AO-91 is still 30 minutes off.
> > >> > It definitely is something with the Keps. HRD and SatPC32 use
> > different
> > >> > "element sets".
> > >> > SatPC32 uses "nasa.txt", HRD uses "nasabare.txt and amateur.txt". I
> > >> need to
> > >> > figure out how to get "nasa.all" into HRD. And, one of the 2
element
> > >> sets,
> > >> > in HRD, is loading 3 keps entries for AO-91, each with different
> > >> "catalog
> > >> > numbers", as noted above.
> > >> > Also, I have noticed with each "update" (many), the sat track gets
> > >> slower
> > >> > loading.
> > >> > There is an "upcoming" update. I may try and "uninstall" HRD,
> > reinstall
> > >> > with a "fresh" copy.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks again. Best from the "Florida Keys"
> > >> > WB1FXX
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:25 PM Wendy and Terry Osborne <
> > >> > wandtosborne@?????.???> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Francis,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do you have multiple entries for AO-91 and AO-85?
> > >> > > I have found this to be a problem with some other tracking
> programs.
> > >> > > What happens is that you load the keps just after launch before
> the
> > >> sats
> > >> > > have been finally identified.
> > >> > > The keps are then updated with a different object number and you
> get
> > 2
> > >> > > entries for a given sat.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've just downloaded a demo of HDR Sat and I just have 1 entry
for
> > >> each
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > it tracks correctly.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 73,
> > >> > > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Francis Geraci
> > >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 6:24 AM
> > >> > > To: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB
> > >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD tracking errors
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I use HRD Sat., SatPC32 and Amsat Droid.
> > >> > > SatPC32 and Amsat Droid agree on position of FM birds, HRD shows
> > some
> > >> > birds
> > >> > > 30 min. earlier than expected. Mainly, AO-91 and AO-85. Anyone
> else
> > >> > noticed
> > >> > > this tracking error ?
> > >> > > I have "poured" thru ALL HRD's settings, reloaded keps, etc.
> Nothing
> > >> > seems
> > >> > > to correct this tracking anomaly. Grrrrr.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best to All - WB1FXX
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> > available
> > >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >> > Opinions
> > >> > > expressed
> > >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> > views
> > >> of
> > >> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >> > program!
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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> available
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:14:37 -0800
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Michael Carper, Ph.D.'" <mike@??????.???>,	"AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors
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Mike, here are a couple of answers that were posted for me a few weeks ago:

Keps are the Keplarian elements that define a satellite's orbit and are used
to predict its location.  You have to update these every few days (daily for
ISS, which reboots its orbit from time to time).  You trigger the update
manually, using the Update Keps button, and specify the update source for
the keps - the NASA.bare keps from AMSAT are a good choice (they include
AO-85).

The sqf file contains information that defines the operational modes of a
satellite (frequencies, tones, modulation, and so on).  This info gets
entered once when the satellite is new.  It might need to change if the
frequency drifts with age or if a new satellite isn't operating as expected,
but generally remains fixed.  You edit this file with a text editor.

Dave, W8AAS

Have the above answered your questions?  Seems to me two different issues
have been mixed here as the Keps and Doppler.sqf are two different items and
updating one does not update the other
1.	The Keps can be updated from a number of sources to be found on the
drop down under the <Satellites> tab
2.	Doppler.sqf is manually updated by you when a new satellite is added
to the family using Notepad or some kind of text editor.  Be sure to follow
the rules embedded in Doppler.sqf when messing with the file.  You can save
a copy that has not been modified the Uplink calibration process as
Doppler.REF or some such thing.  And, yes, each radio has slightly different
calibration offsets in Doppler.SQF.  That is what I use the 4 different
configuration options for <Setup><Configurations>.  I use one config for a
pair of FT-817's another for an IC-910H and a third for Flex 6600.
3.	Don't forget if you are adding a new FM satellite to Doppler.SQF you
also need to go into Subtones.SQF and add the new satellite to that list as
well so the T0 > T1 >T2 toggle works correctly.  Again follow the embedded
instructions carefully.  This is another file that can be manipulated with a
text editor like Notepad.
Hope this helps, John Kludt

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Michael
Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:23 PM
To: Ted Krempa
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FW: HRD tracking errors

Well, for the sake of demonstrating my ignorance here...

What's an SQF file?

Mike, WA9PIE

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:21 PM Ted Krempa <k7trkradio@???????.???> wrote:

>
> Hi Mike, while you are here, is there a way to access the sqf file in HRD?
>
> Thanks, Ted
> K7TRK
>




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