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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A? (Paul Stoetzer)
   2. SKCCc on the satellite (Mike Herr)
   3. Re: Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A? (Bob Hammond)
   4. Re: Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A? (Zach Metzinger)
   5. Re: Operating SSB sats (James McIrvin)
   6. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
      on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
      Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (christophe.mcr)
   7. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
      on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
      Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (John Brier)
   8. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
      on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
      Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (sean fay)
   9. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
      on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
      Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (John Brier)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:22:49 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A?
Message-ID:
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I use a Microset VUR-30 with my dual FT-817 setup. The internal preamp
is total trash and I don't use that, but it is nice to get the 20-30
watts out for lower elevations or breaking through pileups.

There are no US vendors, so I purchased mine from WiMo in Germany.
https://www.wimo.com/amplifier-vhf-uhf_e.html

Was the OP asking about a preamp or a power amplifier?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
>
> Hello Bob,
>
> I too am interested in VHF/UHF amplifier suggestions, but for a FT-817ND
(with TCXO-9).
>
> I am not sure about Mirage now that it is an MFJ brand. A lot of online
reviews pre-date that transition. I am somewhat interested in the RM Italy
products sold at DX Engineering.
>
> On a related subject, I note the ARRL lab test of the FT-818 does not
recommend amplifier use, which is disappointing as I suppose that reflects
on the quality of it?s output signal.
>
> I also hope there will be an IC-9700 in my future!
>
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Bob Hammond
<propgrinder@?????.???<??????????????????@?????.???>> wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention that I have 65 feet of 9913F between my
> antennas/rotator and the radio hence the need for the amplifier.  I do
> understand that if I was using an Arrow antenna (as I have in the past)
> with my Icom Z1A, I'd have no problem working the satellites.
>
> Still, no replies?
>
> Bob
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 10:35 AM Bob Hammond
<propgrinder@?????.???<??????????????????@?????.???>> wrote:
>
> Any recommendation for amplifiers for my Icom Z1A?
>
> I want to use it with my antennas while I  no-so-patiently wait for the
> IC-9700.
>
> Bob
> W7OTJ
> DN17
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 06:55:12 -0800
From: Mike Herr <wa6ara@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] SKCCc on the satellite
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There was interest in doing some straight key ops on the birds but lost the
post. Anyone interested?


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 06:57:37 -0800
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A?
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OozC_6RpizT3uX8TYU6_G3REauGNiKcf2EeX8Wwvpkcdw@????.?????.???>
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I was asking about a power amp.  But it was suggested that for about the
price of a V/U amplifier, I can get an Icom IC-2730A.
I like that idea much better.

Bob

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:23 AM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:

> I use a Microset VUR-30 with my dual FT-817 setup. The internal preamp
> is total trash and I don't use that, but it is nice to get the 20-30
> watts out for lower elevations or breaking through pileups.
>
> There are no US vendors, so I purchased mine from WiMo in Germany.
> https://www.wimo.com/amplifier-vhf-uhf_e.html
>
> Was the OP asking about a preamp or a power amplifier?
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Bob,
> >
> > I too am interested in VHF/UHF amplifier suggestions, but for a FT-817ND
> (with TCXO-9).
> >
> > I am not sure about Mirage now that it is an MFJ brand. A lot of online
> reviews pre-date that transition. I am somewhat interested in the RM Italy
> products sold at DX Engineering.
> >
> > On a related subject, I note the ARRL lab test of the FT-818 does not
> recommend amplifier use, which is disappointing as I suppose that reflects
> on the quality of it?s output signal.
> >
> > I also hope there will be an IC-9700 in my future!
> >
> > 73 Ken VA7KBM
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???<???????
> propgrinder@?????.???>> wrote:
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I have 65 feet of 9913F between my
> > antennas/rotator and the radio hence the need for the amplifier.  I do
> > understand that if I was using an Arrow antenna (as I have in the past)
> > with my Icom Z1A, I'd have no problem working the satellites.
> >
> > Still, no replies?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 10:35 AM Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???
> <mailto:propgrinder@?????.???>> wrote:
> >
> > Any recommendation for amplifiers for my Icom Z1A?
> >
> > I want to use it with my antennas while I  no-so-patiently wait for the
> > IC-9700.
> >
> > Bob
> > W7OTJ
> > DN17
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
> this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:48:45 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vhf/Uhf amplifier for Icom Z1A?
Message-ID: <ab571576-31f8-92c6-e204-57f880df66ef@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2/6/19 2:37 PM, Ken M wrote:
> On a related subject, I note the ARRL lab test of the FT-818 does not
recommend amplifier use, which is disappointing as I suppose that reflects
on the quality of it?s output signal.

This should be solvable with the appropriate output filter to knock down
harmonics/spurious output.

A diplexer (such as the one at http://kw4fb.com/micro-diplexer) could be
added before the amplifier on the 2m side, if that is the problem, with
the 70cm port terminated in a 50 ohm load. On the 70cm path (or the 2m),
one could apply a cavity filter (http://www.nx7u.net/4x3x5.html).

I don't have the ARRL test report, so I'm not sure why they don't think
one should add an amplifier. If it is a transmitted phase noise problem,
then, obviously, a filter won't solve the problem.

--- Zach
N0ZGO




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:38:33 -0500
From: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???>
To: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats
Message-ID:
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Good afternoon everyone,
I just did a full reset on my rig to take it back to factory settings.  As
mentioned above about the XIT and the RIT working together.  No change
after doing a full reset of the radio.
So trying to tune with the rit and keep the same TX freq is not possible
from what I can tell based on my observation.
So I don't know if this is different when using a ICOM rig as compared to
the Kenwood?  I would think that you would be able to use them separately
to adjust either one, however, with this I don't know what to do about
trying to keep the correct TX and adjust my RX so that I sound correct or
at least working with something that most would be able to hear without
alot of tuning.  I know that the doppler effects it all, just being able to
set it and not have to constantly adjust with todays rigs I would have
thought would be better then it is even for the age of the technology of
this radio.

Thoughts?
Jim

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 7:40 AM James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???> wrote:

> Good morning all,
> One thing that I have noticed with trying to tune in a qso or even tune
> myself so that I can even find myself on the downlink is not easy some
> days.  If I use the rit then sometimes I loose the other party on there or
> they can not tune up to me very well.  One thing that I have noticed
> thinking about this if I turn the rit on and use that then turn the RIT off
> and then try to tune the xmit freq I see that the XIT is also changed to
> the same amount as the RIT control.
> So having found this and trying to work with SatPC32 trying to tune using
> the cat control section I am not having very good luck somedays getting
> things tuned up.  I don't try to do these at the same time, I work with one
> or the other, just have not found a good happy medium yet for tuning in the
> different ones.
> Now I am thinking that I might want to reset all back to square one with
> the radio again and see what happens with the RIT and XIT if they track
> together or not if I do a full reset of the radio.
> The rig is the TS2000X, it took sometime getting it to work with Satpc32
> and now I know where I made the mistake on the basic setup so that I can
> get things to a working point with the software for tracking again.  Just
> seeing that the RIT control and the XIT track together even thou they are
> not on together that I know of when I try to work things.
> This I only found this week.  So any thoughts on this?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 11:36 PM Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> Great job
>>
>> Im going to contradict myself.  Don?t use the RIT...(then maybe use the
>> RIT)
>>
>> Hopefully your RIT is off when you adjust your uplink in Satpc32 to line
>> up and match the pitch of your voice.
>>
>> If I find that I have tuned to someone calling CQ or in QSO - when i call
>> them ??> if they move, yet I can understand, I will accept the pitch
>> difference and NOT touch the main tuning dial for that round of the QSO so
>> things stay constant for the other station
>>
>> If we go another QSO round and things are still about the same amount of
>> frequency offset, I?ll just compensate slightly with my RIT.
>>
>> If you?re within 300hz I?d say you?re doing well, and touching up with
>> RIT is well within reason.
>>
>> Like drew suggests- carry on.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
>> glasbrenner@??????????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > So just diddle the RIT a little and carry on?
>> >
>> > 73, Drew KO4MA
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Stephen E.
>> Belter
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 1:43 PM
>> > To: k6vug@?????????.???
>> > Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>; Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
>> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats
>> >
>> > Just my guess:  If you?re tuning so that you sound good to yourself,
>> you may sound a little high (or low) to someone else.  Also, since most
>> people you?re operating don?t know what you sound like in person (James
>> Earle Jones or Pee Wee Hermon).
>> >
>> > You can check your tuning by sending a tone and zero-bearing with the
>> received tone.
>> >
>> > Or experiment with adjusting your received signal so that you?re a
>> little low (or high) with what sounds best to you.  Then see if you?re
>> still chasing each other up (or down) the band.
>> >
>> > 73, Steve N9IP
>> > --
>> > Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:31 PM, "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That is exactly right, with the fully computer controlled setup I can
>> move the downlink (RX) up and down the pass band looking for callers and
>> not have to touch the TX frequency as it is managed by the software and can
>> hear my own voice with a steady tone quite well.
>> >> - Umesh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 9:44:56 AM PST, Paul Stoetzer <
>> n8hm@????.???> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Umesh,
>> >> If you can tune around and always hear your own downlink on the
>> correct frequency, then you are doing everything right.
>> >> 73,
>> >> Paul, N8HM
>> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:42 PM k6vug@?????????.??? <
>> k6vug@?????????.???> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Good Morning All,
>> >> I'd like to understand something that seems to be happening with SSB
>> birds.
>> >>
>> >> I realize that they are two kinds of operators - one that has a
>> >> computer controlled station and one that tunes manually, and I respect
>> >> both types.  The following observation is about two computer
>> >> controlled stations working via a SSB satellite -
>> >>
>> >> (a) My station is computer controlled (SatPC32 or HRD) and can hear
>> myself on the downlink throughout the pass.  I can also go up or down the
>> pass band and still hear myself without needing to retune the uplink.   It
>> is pretty rock solid, almost like HF operation.
>> >>
>> >> (b) Sometimes I hear a station calling CQ and it remains on the same
>> frequency during successive CQs, so I'm guessing their station is also
>> computer controlled.  I can tune in and stay on their calling frequency.
>> >>
>> >> (c) However, when I can respond, it seems they have to tune their
>> downlink a bit to hear me well.  So when they come back to my response,
>> they are a bit off-frequency (about 300Hz) and sound like Mickey Mouse,
>> until I retune the downlink to hear them well again.  This keeps happening
>> throughout the QSO.
>> >>
>> >> (d) This "drifting" happens only with some stations calling CQ and not
>> everyone.
>> >>
>> >> Considering both stations are computer controlled at each end, I'm
>> trying to understand if I'm doing anything wrong/incorrect.  Learning to
>> operate SSB sats has been humbling as well as exciting, I'd appreciate any
>> pointers for this situation. Thanks in advance.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 73!
>> >> Umesh
>> >> k6vug
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 23:28:42 +0100
From: "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
To: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Message-ID:
<CADF-Vj2XrCaptPFShWEH6S_VGY2cfScmLipCKdotZ945kdGQUQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Good evening Ron

I'm adding your contribution to the survey data.  If you want to add more
elements, send me your comments.

To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below).
The results will be available for all AMSATs.

During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March)  , these results
will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
satellite designers.


73

Christophe


Countrie/Number of response
France 70
United Kingdom 17
United States 14
Germany 11
Poland 11
Netherlands 9
Belgium 6
Canada 5
Italy 5
Spain 4
Argentina 2
Australia 2
Austria 2
Brazil 2
Portugal 2
Romania 2
Sweden 2
Switzerland 2
Bulgaria 1
Colombia 1
Croatia 1
Finland 1
Greece 1
Japan 1
New Zealand 1
Venezuela 1
S?n?gal 1


Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :

> Hi,
>
>    I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had
> one other comment to make about the survey itself.
>
>    In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> used or was active on the last option was "not interested".  I would
> have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or
> something.
>
>    Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the
> survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence
> the design team.
>
>    Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
>
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Dear
> >
> > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
> radio
> > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio
> > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their
> > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience
> > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
> provide
> > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> transponder,
> > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> >
>
> --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
>


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:22:03 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKNu0o2MS8H3O-Wy39ZFAhbbnx-iov-guOLOG3VD1yo6uw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I just took it.

I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
community.

My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
;-)

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Good evening Ron
>
> I'm adding your contribution to the survey data.  If you want to add more
> elements, send me your comments.
>
> To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below).
> The results will be available for all AMSATs.
>
> During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March)  , these results
> will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
> satellite designers.
>
>
> 73
>
> Christophe
>
>
> Countrie/Number of response
> France 70
> United Kingdom 17
> United States 14
> Germany 11
> Poland 11
> Netherlands 9
> Belgium 6
> Canada 5
> Italy 5
> Spain 4
> Argentina 2
> Australia 2
> Austria 2
> Brazil 2
> Portugal 2
> Romania 2
> Sweden 2
> Switzerland 2
> Bulgaria 1
> Colombia 1
> Croatia 1
> Finland 1
> Greece 1
> Japan 1
> New Zealand 1
> Venezuela 1
> S?n?gal 1
>
>
> Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >    I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had
> > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
> >
> >    In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> > used or was active on the last option was "not interested".  I would
> > have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or
> > something.
> >
> >    Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the
> > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence
> > the design team.
> >
> >    Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
> >
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear
> > >
> > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
> > radio
> > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio
> > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their
> > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience
> > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
> > provide
> > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> > transponder,
> > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> > >
> >
> > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> > --
> > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
> >
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:42:54 -0600
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Message-ID:
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Hey man

If you read through this BB you'll find that most of NA don't want a ham
transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America because a GEOSAT
is too easy, takes away the challenge, and the point of being a sat op is
chasing a ghost in the sky and not just having something you can jump on
any minute of every hour of every day.  ?\_(?)_/?  eehhh. I personally want
to have to build a microwave transmitter and antenna to do this thing

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:

> I just took it.
>
> I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
> before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
> community.
>
> My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
> want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
> ;-)
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good evening Ron
> >
> > I'm adding your contribution to the survey data.  If you want to add more
> > elements, send me your comments.
> >
> > To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below).
> > The results will be available for all AMSATs.
> >
> > During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March)  , these
> results
> > will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
> > satellite designers.
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Christophe
> >
> >
> > Countrie/Number of response
> > France 70
> > United Kingdom 17
> > United States 14
> > Germany 11
> > Poland 11
> > Netherlands 9
> > Belgium 6
> > Canada 5
> > Italy 5
> > Spain 4
> > Argentina 2
> > Australia 2
> > Austria 2
> > Brazil 2
> > Portugal 2
> > Romania 2
> > Sweden 2
> > Switzerland 2
> > Bulgaria 1
> > Colombia 1
> > Croatia 1
> > Finland 1
> > Greece 1
> > Japan 1
> > New Zealand 1
> > Venezuela 1
> > S?n?gal 1
> >
> >
> > Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >    I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had
> > > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
> > >
> > >    In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> > > used or was active on the last option was "not interested".  I would
> > > have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or
> > > something.
> > >
> > >    Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the
> > > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence
> > > the design team.
> > >
> > >    Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
> > >
> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> > > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear
> > > >
> > > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
> > > radio
> > > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio
> > > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring
> their
> > > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
> experience
> > > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
> > > provide
> > > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> > > transponder,
> > > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> > > >
> > >
> > > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> > > --
> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:50:12 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKM_mAcD03D=op=rvdBskj-YgHByaMsAv8uAu+Zqc0EshQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Exactly. If I don't have a really good reason to put together a complex and
expensive microwave station, I probably won't do it.

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 18:43 sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.??? wrote:

> Hey man
>
> If you read through this BB you'll find that most of NA don't want a ham
> transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America because a GEOSAT
> is too easy, takes away the challenge, and the point of being a sat op is
> chasing a ghost in the sky and not just having something you can jump on
> any minute of every hour of every day.  ?\_(?)_/?  eehhh. I personally
> want to have to build a microwave transmitter and antenna to do this thing
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I just took it.
>>
>> I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
>> before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
>> community.
>>
>> My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
>> want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
>> ;-)
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good evening Ron
>> >
>> > I'm adding your contribution to the survey data.  If you want to add
>> more
>> > elements, send me your comments.
>> >
>> > To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see
>> below).
>> > The results will be available for all AMSATs.
>> >
>> > During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March)  , these
>> results
>> > will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
>> > satellite designers.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73
>> >
>> > Christophe
>> >
>> >
>> > Countrie/Number of response
>> > France 70
>> > United Kingdom 17
>> > United States 14
>> > Germany 11
>> > Poland 11
>> > Netherlands 9
>> > Belgium 6
>> > Canada 5
>> > Italy 5
>> > Spain 4
>> > Argentina 2
>> > Australia 2
>> > Austria 2
>> > Brazil 2
>> > Portugal 2
>> > Romania 2
>> > Sweden 2
>> > Switzerland 2
>> > Bulgaria 1
>> > Colombia 1
>> > Croatia 1
>> > Finland 1
>> > Greece 1
>> > Japan 1
>> > New Zealand 1
>> > Venezuela 1
>> > S?n?gal 1
>> >
>> >
>> > Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > >    I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I
>> had
>> > > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
>> > >
>> > >    In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
>> > > used or was active on the last option was "not interested".  I would
>> > > have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or
>> > > something.
>> > >
>> > >    Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take
>> the
>> > > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will
>> influence
>> > > the design team.
>> > >
>> > >    Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
>> > > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dear
>> > > >
>> > > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
>> > > radio
>> > > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio
>> > > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring
>> their
>> > > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
>> experience
>> > > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
>> > > provide
>> > > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
>> > > transponder,
>> > > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
>> > > --
>> > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>


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